Rawstory/Biden to deliver major Iraq speech

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Biden to deliver major Iraq speech... Developing...
Senator Joe Biden (D-DE) is delivering a 'major' speech on Iraq to the Council of Foreign Relations today, scheduled at 12:45 p.m. ET.

Senate aides described the speech as 'major' but gave scant details. RAW STORY is hoping to get a transcript this afternoon.

Biden's office did not immediately return calls seeking comment.

http://www.rawstory.com/

[Roland99]

1. He'll either back Murtha or recommend sending in another 40,000 troops.

[Mass]

2. Except if he changed his mind since yesterday, expect the second one

and a call for Bush to level with the American people in order to gain them to this war, but also a recommendation that some troops be withdrawn before the end of the year.

He is a candidate for 08, so he has to have HIS plan, that's all.

[in_cog_ni_to]

3. It's too late for Biden. He's done nothing but kiss the cabal's ass

and support the illegal invasion of Iraq and I won't mention his bankruptcy bill vote/credit card connections. Biden ain't gonna be the nominee no matter what he spews forth.

[Pithy Cherub]

13. Murtha is getting plaudits, press and public support.

Biden thinks he's entitled to some measure of that and BOY is he mistaken. It matters that people have plans, but a confluence of events has to occur. The best plan, by a credible individual at the optimal time. Murtha had all three things going for him. Biden - definitely NOT so much. Biden is a total pretender. :puke:

[ewagner]

4. Round one goes to Biden

Now that Murtha has started the ball rolling, there will be a rush of Democrats trying to grab the role of leader of the party. Round one to Biden only because he recognized it and was/is the first to jump on the bandwagon that Murtha started rolling.

[Mass]

6. From what he said yesterday, not so much.

[MH1]

9. Well, some other Senate Dems made proposals before Murtha

so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

[bpilgrim]

5. groan - wonder if he'll tell us we got six months to get it right

like he said in the summer of 03 :eyes:

peace

[Mass]

7. Yesterday, he asked Bush to let us win this war by winning the

American people to it.

[keta11]

8. He will say Bush should Level with the American people

about the war blah blah and carp about the number of trained Eye-raqi troops without offering any substative idea or plan about ending the war.

I say bullsh*t, pardon my francais.

[Mass]

10. Biden : on Iraq yesterday - no reason he changed his mind since.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,176149,00.html

WALLACE: As we've been saying, Democratic Congressman Jack Murtha this week called for bringing U.S. troops back home. Is that a good idea?

BIDEN: Not immediately, no. I can understand Jack's frustration. This is a guy who has concluded that so far we've handled this effort incompetently, but it seems to me that we have one last shot at getting this right.

The downside of bringing troops home now or within the next six months, before we know what's happened in this upcoming election, whether or not there's a real political consensus arrived and a constitution, I think would be a mistake.

..


BIDEN: Well, the 78 senators sort of laid it out in a Republican-sponsored amendment on the floor the other day. But basically, we need a political solution. It means you need a consensus constitution. You need to get people in there who, in fact, can help them set up ministries that don't function now so the government can function.

You need to change the way in which way you, in fact, are rebuilding Iraq, so you actually do small bore projects to get the sewage out of the street and get electricity turned on locally. And you have to train Iraqi troops, which is now beginning to occur, notwithstanding what the secretary said.

And by the way, the number is somewhere between 25,000 and 30,000 trained troops and not very much up from what you asked him. There are the four things you've got to do. If you do those, if you change policy, change course here, we've got a shot of an Iraq that can be held together and not a haven for terror over the next year.

[Roland99]

12. IOW, use more of our troops to "nation build".

:eyes:

[shance]

11. All Biden does is deliver speeches. Has he ever done anything else?

n/t

[karynnj]

14. But we're not EVEN waiting for his speech

which is silly. Does anyone know when he will give the speech.

[understandinglife]

15. Puke alert - Raw Story has posted the text of his 'major speech' ...

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Biden_delivering_speech_on_Iraq_1121.html


Disgusting.


Peace.

[Roland99]

16. Iraq will be a bankrupt nation in 5-10 years requiring MAJOR World Bank

involvement.


Hmm....was this foreseen hence the push to put Wolfowitz at the World Bank?