Mary Matalin on Imus --talking of leak

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1. she called it a 'mis-rememberance. about Scotter.

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2. said it is politics being criminalized.

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4. and --like woodward said---much ado about nothing.

[ninkasi]

23. Like spending years and millions

to investigate a blow job? Yeah, Mary, you Republicans sure have a right to your hypocrisy. It seemed ok to ya'll when the Clintons were under the spotlight.

[Skittles]

3. she is a certified bush whore

SOP

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5. She is certainly coming across as a fan of Bush right now.

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6. mary said scotter 'did NOT lie"

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7. she is really bragging up Scotter and all his public service.

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8. she called called before the FBI--

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9. did she say that probably it was scotter or cheney or..???

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11. they are having a discussion about somthing she susposedly said

on a K-street show (which she said she did not say--something about saying Scotter probably leaked it).

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12. says Libby works 12-16 hours week.

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19. The Hulk sez Mary is on the square



[HereSince1628]

10. Wasn't she a member of the WHIG?

Maybe that was only in a dream...

But why expect more from that woman?

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13. yes, she was a member of the WH Iraqi Group eary on--when this

leak took place.

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14. Mary bets Imus that Libby will be exonerated. (much ado about nothing).

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15. Mary says the Pres and VP--have never lied about anything-(in her history

of working with them).

[C_U_L8R]

16. It sounds to me like she's lieing...

... especially when she gets all loud and whiney
That seems to be her schtick.
Not very effective it seems.

[sabbat hunter]

17. she also claimed

that no crime was committed because 'everyone' already knew that valerie plame was a CIA operative. that it wasnt a secret.

[Tesla]

18. This is the biggest lie they spin in this whole mess.....

Noonw, not even Joe's parent's knew she was CIA.

[LizW]

21. They are so isolated from reality they can't tell wrong from right

The Bush White house is filled with political operatives. Politics is what they do, it's ALL they do. Bush put his political fixers in high government positions and gave them security clearances of the highest levels. THAT is problem #1.

Problem #2 is that these people only talk to each other and then to the press. They exist in an echo chamber where the message of the day is all they hear. NOTHING else gets through. The message becomes their reality, and their sole purpose is to project that "reality" out to the American public. That leads to problem #3:

Certain members of the press have become part and parcel of the Bush PR machine. There are three levels of this: the fake "journalists" like James Guckert, who are put in place specifically to spread propaganda, the paid journalists, like Armstrong Williams, also given higher access in order to spread propaganda, and the mainstream "access" journalists, like Russert, Novak and Woodward, who make claims to independence, but are really tools of the administration.

These three problems converge into a scenario where the WH political operatives merge with a certain segment of the press into a propaganda machine, and the security clearances become very dangerous things.

This disaster was foreshadowed early in the Bush administration when we started seeing selective declassification of materials in response to Congressional criticism of Bush. It was clear then that this administration placed politics above national security.

Many in the WH had the clearance to know about Plame's identity and her work. Whether they SHOULD have known is another question. The fact remains that they did, and it is not illegal. The criminality arises out of a mindset that accepts putting classified material out to the public through the press in order to diffuse political damage to Bush and Cheney.

The "everybody knew" defense IS the evidence that the political operatives in the WH knew they were conspiring to commit a crime. Everybody didn't know. Fifteen or 20 high level officials and political operatives working under security clearances in the WH knew. Why? What possible reason was there for all these people to know about CIA Agent Valerie Plame?

Then there came a day when that information passed through to people who DIDN'T know and who SHOULDN'T have known. That the political operatives in the WH, like Matalin, deny that that is illegal and a serious security breach is very telling about the level of the conspiracy within the WH to discredit Joe Wilson.

[sabbat hunter]

22. matlin claimed

that her husband would brag at parties that valerie was a CIA operative.

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20. It was only common knowledge after Bush officials spread it around n/t

[GreenPartyVoter]

24. I hope Fitz goes after her too