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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 03:36 PM
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Hey Rummy, How's That Iraqi Troop Training Going?
Edited on Sun Nov-20-05 03:41 PM by DistressedAmerican
I saw you claim that 160,000 iraqi troops are trained all over the morning talk show circuit. As you we know you lying sack of shit, that number is not even close to accurate. It has been debunked and debunked. Stop lying. If you insist on continuing to lie, please try to sound plausable.


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http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/IraqCoverage/story?id=1316059

BAGHDAD, Nov. 15, 2005 — The U.S. military said today that more than 112,000 Iraqi police and nearly 100,000 Iraqi troops have been trained and equipped so far. While the numbers seem impressive, the greater concern is whether those Iraqi forces are capable of effectively securing their country.

Today's report from the Pentagon says only one battalion — about 700 Iraqi troops — has reached level one, meaning the soldiers can operate independently.

The report also finds that approximately 27,000 others are capable of taking a lead role in combat, but only with strong support from U.S. forces.

As for the others, U.S. officials say there are a variety of problems — from equipment shortages to lack of medics and logistic support.

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Let's look at the magnitude of this lie in visual terms:

Let :yoiks: Equal 1,000 trained troops.

Rummy claims that we have this many trained and equipped:
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His own pentagon experts agree that the actual number is more like this:

:yoiks:
Well less actually...


STOP LYING YOU TWISTED OLD BASTARD! TRAINED DOES NOT MEAN ANYONE YOU HAVE HANDED A RIFLE TO.


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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 03:40 PM
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1. only members of this administration could get 160,000 out of 700
and still pretend like they have done no wrong. Pure gall.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 03:43 PM
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2. Maybe They Finished The Other 159,300 In The Five Days Since The Report!
Edited on Sun Nov-20-05 03:44 PM by DistressedAmerican
That would explain it!:wtf:

Gall is right!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 03:46 PM
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3. and...
have the meriKans believeing it. Well, the faux snooze watching ones anyway.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 03:50 PM
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4. Who the f*ck's training Iraqi troops and police are doing a miserable job
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 04:07 PM
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5. Well, that job was held by Bernard Kerik for awhile...
so I suspect it was designed to fail..
Boy, can Bush* pick 'em....:rofl:

Wrong Man for the Job

12/09/2004


In late May of last year, Bernard Kerik--President Bush's nominee for Homeland Security Secretary--took a leave from his lucrative job at Giuliani Partners and headed for Iraq. The Defense Department lured Kerik away with a $140,000 salary and the prestigious position of training the new Iraqi police force.

"I will be there at least six months--until the job is done," Kerik told Newsday. He jumped ship less than four months into his six-month contract with the job far from done. Kerik said he needed a vacation.The Pentagon alleged he'd completed his task.  Over a year later, many details of Kerik's stay--particularly why he left early--remain shrouded in mystery. The known facts do not offer a ringing endorsement.

** Kerik's oversight of a $50 million police-training contract for the controversial defense contractor DynCorp produced few tangible results.

** Kerik spent $1.2 billion to train 35,000 troops in Jordan even though France and Germany offered to provide training for free. He also bought $20 million worth of rifles and revolvers from Jordan when the weapons could've been obtained for far less in Iraq.

** Kerik hired Iraqi policemen without background checks who later turned out to be hardened criminals. He re-hired policeman formerly employed by Saddam Hussein and bragged of training 37,000 new officers. Currently, roughly a quarter of the force Kerik left in place--a total of 30,000 officers--have been or will soon be fired by the US
government and paid $60 million in severance payments, according to the far-from-antiwar New York Post.

<more>

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/outrage?bid=13&pid=2058
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 04:11 PM
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6. Kerik has other problems now
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 04:37 PM
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8. LOL, couldn't happen to a bigger weasel
Well, BushCo excluded. When it rains, it pours.....:)
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 04:48 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. If you believe in Karma
it's coming in BIG TIME now
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 05:15 PM
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10. I do, I do. Our Karma is running over their Dogma
;)
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 05:18 PM
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11. and this also
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 04:13 PM
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7. At over $34,000 to train a troop, surely a little was left over for Kerik
Edited on Sun Nov-20-05 04:13 PM by indepat
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 11:02 PM
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12. They Should Give ME The Money. I Will Get Trained And Train
up more guys than that in the time they have had. Single handed!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 09:38 AM
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17. DA this wad of crap keeps getting tossed about as though it were candy.
They are never going to get those bastards trained. Why should they allow themselves to be trained. Reminds me of the dude on Mad TV that sticks his foot in the air and says nooooooooo, get away.... LOL
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 02:45 PM
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18. Stewart? I Think That Is the Name.
Fina analogy!

"LA LA LA LA! I CAN'T HEAR YOU!"

:rofl:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 10:02 PM
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20. Yeah that be the dude.
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Oldtimeralso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 11:20 PM
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13. You just don't get the math
If it were Dollars people like shrub and rummy would have $700 = $160,000 just have chenybertion do the counting
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 11:27 PM
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14. LOL!
Edited on Sun Nov-20-05 11:27 PM by Swamp Rat
:yoiks: :yoiks: :yoiks: :yoiks: :yoiks: :yoiks: :yoiks: :yoiks: :yoiks: :yoiks: :yoiks: :yoiks: :yoiks: :yoiks: :yoiks: :yoiks: :yoiks: :yoiks: :yoiks: :yoiks: :yoiks: :yoiks: :yoiks:

:rofl:
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 08:36 AM
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16. Just Seemed Like The Right Emoticon.
A little timid to start. Once they set out, they kind of desert and disappear. Call me cynical!

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:evilgrin:
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 11:43 PM
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15. great post,DistressedAmerican
You really have a talent for getting the point across in very creative ways.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 07:14 PM
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19. Kick. n/t
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