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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 10:53 PM
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Tomorrow would have been RFK's 80th birthday.


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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 10:56 PM
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1. well that's depressing
to think what might have been.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 10:56 PM
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3. *deep sigh*
:cry:

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 11:02 PM
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8. I always wonder
But than I also wonder if we would've had other great president's such as Clinton.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 10:56 PM
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2. It's shocking to think
Of RFK being 80 years-old and JFK being 88 years-old, because people still think of them in youngish terms.

You can't really get your head around 80 years-old and 88 years-old.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 10:57 PM
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5. How old is Pres. Carter--he's still sharp.
And kicking Bush in the nuts a little bit here and there.

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 11:04 PM
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9. Oh yes!
He is. It's amazing. Isn't he eighty or in his late seventies? He still amazes me with his knowledge. I saw him on Larry King last week and he was on fire. Same with the other shows he was on.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 11:12 PM
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13. Carter was born in 1924, so he's 81.
And kicking ass.

I'd like to think RFK would've been too.

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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 12:08 AM
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20. Well yes, but I was
More meaning the imagery dear boy. That you can't really visualize RFK and JFK as being 80 and 88 respectively.

Jaysus, my Grandmother's 86 years-old and she'd soon kicked Junior in the nuts.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 10:57 PM
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4. so sad....so much potential and all lost ...
one of my prized possessions is an original handbill from his campaign for the presidency...and an original bumpersticker!
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 11:01 PM
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6. Bleeding heart, that's cool!
I was born two years after he was killed. Although I wasn't around when he was, I find him to be very inspiring.

I think he would have been a great president.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 11:05 PM
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10. That is a prized posession!!
Treasure that forever!!
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 09:30 AM
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22. I actually had two sets but auctioned one off for a local
democratic charity...

the handbill and bumpersticker brought in over $300 which to be honest is probably more than they were worth but the so inspired people that they brought a great amount of money...
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 11:02 PM
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7. Bless his soul
:cry: I'm only twenty-three but I just have this fascination with the Kennedy's. Dunno why I feel so connected but I have always loved him, John and Ted. :( For whatever purpose I get real protective whenever one of these rightwing jerks bash Teddy.
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 11:06 PM
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11. It pisses me off when people bash Ted, too.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 11:08 PM
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12. Ouch...
i remember,..especially the train...:cry:
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 11:13 PM
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14. The train lives on here...
Edited on Sat Nov-19-05 11:19 PM by Davis_X_Machina
...in extraordinary pictures.

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 11:20 PM
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15. Those are awesome..... n/t
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 11:25 PM
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16. Aw, hell, let's try...
Edited on Sat Nov-19-05 11:28 PM by Davis_X_Machina
...and sell a few copies of Mr. Fusco's book.



My brother need not be idealized,
or enlarged in death beyond what he was in life,
to be remembered simply as a good and decent man,
who saw wrong and tried to right it,
saw suffering and tried to heal it,
saw war and tried to stop it.

Those of us who loved him
and who take him to his rest today,
pray that what he was to us
and what he wished for others
will some day come to pass for all the world.

As he said many times,
in many parts of this nation,
to those he touched
and who sought to touch him:

"Some men see things as they are and say why.
I dream things that never were and say why not."
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 11:31 PM
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17. "There's a great spirit gone." -- Antony and Cleopatra n/t
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 11:43 PM
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18. RFK in South Africa, 1966
Edited on Sat Nov-19-05 11:46 PM by Davis_X_Machina



Each time a man stands up for an ideal,
or acts to improve the lot of others,
or strikes out against injustice,
he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope,
and crossing each other
from a million different centers of energy and daring,
those ripples build a current
that can sweep down the mightiest walls
of oppression and resistance.


May his memory be for us a blessing -- zichrono l'vracha.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 11:46 PM
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19. ....and this....
On page 803 of his biography of RFK Sr, Arthur Schlesinger Jr quotes Kennedy in South Africa (in what A.S. calls RFK's most eloquent passage):

"(Let no one be discouraged by) the belief there is nothing one man or one woman can do against the enormous array of the world's ills -- against misery and ignorance, injustice and violence .... Few will have the greatness to bend history itself; but each of us can work to change a small portion of events, and in the total of all those acts will be written the history of this generation.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 12:10 AM
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21. Thank you for posting and the reminder Scrub. An amazing leader.
n/t
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