Why does FOX continue to use that "Homicide Bomber" crap?

[Zynx]

It's there. Right on their homepage http://www.foxnews.com/ . The point of calling them a suicide bomber is that it differentiates those who kill themselves while detonating a bomb from those who simply leave a bomb somewhere and then detonate it.

[xultar]

1. Because * told them too.

[AntiCoup2K4]

2. Because that's what PNAC calls it.

And FAUX is the official PNAC network.

[Submariner]

3. Because they can't or won't grasp the concept

that the suicide bomber is the resistance fighter equivalent to our artillery and tanks that the resistance cannot afford or obtain.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

4. Ok, I'm a liberal to the bone and damn proud of it. But Ya gotta help me

out here. I don't understand what the problem is with calling them that. I fear I'm missing something that I should know, so can you explain why there is a problem with that terminology that makes it a dirty republican spin?

Thanks for your help :)

[Zynx]

6. It was a term that was never used before the Bush Administration trotted

it out back in '02 during a rash of suicide bombings in Israel. They don't even use it anymore, but Fox does. It's a stupid term in that all bombings are "homicide" bombings. The whole point of the term "suicide bomber" is that it underlines the point that this was a bombing carried out by somebody who killed themselves to detonate the bomb. In my opinion it's just as stupid as the whole Freedom Fries and Freedom Toast stuff.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

9. Ehh. I see what you're saying and all, but it still seems to me to just

be a battle of semantics outside the realm of politics. I only say that because whether they say suicide or homicide, as stupid as the difference may be, that it still doesn't spin it in a way that makes it deceptive for use in the republican agenda like most of the shit they spew, ya know?

Like, I can see the semantic difference politically between Pro-Choice and Anti-Life, I just don't see it with this one that's all.

:)

[BuyingThyme]

13. All successful bombings are homicide bombings.

Taking the suicide element out of the reporting of a suicide bombing makes the bomber insignificant, something less than human, and not worthy of explanation or reflection.

[wellst0nev0ter]

16. What Do We Call An Unsuccessful Suicide Bombing?

An "attempted homicide bombing"

[kliljedahl]

18. "battle of semantics outside the realm of politics"?

No it is not outside the realm of politics. It is pure RNC & PNAC politics as corporate policy. It's a meme that the WH tried earlier. They threw it out & Faux ran with it. The WH tried it & abandoned it because it didn't stick, Faux never got the message.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

24. Hey kliljedahl, LOVE YOUR TOONS!

Been readin em for months before I joined, and print them out frequently to post on my cube wall (my politics wall that forces everyone to stop and read)

In any case, the reason I said outside the realm of politics is because even with the knowledge of who started it, I still don't see what difference it makes politically what you call it. I guess I'm just out of the loop on this one.

I mean they are homicide bombers, they are suicide bombers. And yes, I agree that homicide is inherent to them being suicide bombers in the first place, so reiterating it to homicide bombers is a bit retarded. But other than being a retarded play on a word, I still fail to see how politically it makes any difference whatsoever. I don't know, I just don't get this one.

[proud2BlibKansan]

14. Because they are using the bush administration terminology

and NO OTHER MEDIA OUTLET uses this term. Fox is spoon fed by the WH. This is just more proof they are shills for the bush administration.

Now do you get it? It's not the term so much as the reason behind it.

[RagAss]

17. Tim McVeigh was a homicide bomber.....

someone who blows themself up to kill you is a suicide bomber. Both are bombers.. but one survives to bomb again and the other ties the act of giving up their own life to taking the life of their enemy....

In other words the latter is a little more committed to the cause....

Roadside bomb in Iraq....homicide.

Lady wired to explode in an Iraqi Police station.....suicide.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

25. Ahhhhhh, finally a post that makes me think about it

So you are saying that by saying homicide, the administration is trying to make them look more evil with the only intent being to cause death, whereas the regular term suicide bomber implies a greater dedication to why they are doing it, showing they are people, who care about a cause, and care about it so deeply that they are willing to die for it? So by homicide, it kinda dehumanizes their effort and just makes them seem plain evil instead of willing to die for a cause?

Ok, If that's what you meant I can see that now. Thanks! I was really having trouble getting why the word made a difference one way or the other, but with that reasoning I think I'm starting to get it after all.

:hi:

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. Because those asshats think (and have said) the term "suicide bomber"

evokes sympathy for the perpetrator, so they use "homicide bomber" instead to emphasize that they kill other people. That's SO stupid. All bombings are homicide bombings; that's why people bomb other people -- to kill them. Duh. "Suicide bomber" merely describes the nature of the act and says nothing about the bomber's motivation, but Faux News always has to throw in some spin.

[Zynx]

7. Watch. Soon they will say if you use the term "suicide bomber" you are a

terrorist yourself.

[RagAss]

21. at which time we will all respond ...."Go FUX Yourself"

[CatholicEdHead]

8. Murdoch/Alies corporate policy

Taking hints from other RNC powerbrokers.

[Mr_Spock]

10. It's RW murderer spin. They love to kill so they use the word homicide

Plus, suicide is against their fundamentalretardist refuckingligion.

[AlCzervik]

11. it sounds like a Frank "Roadkill on my head" Luntzisim.

[RB TexLa]

12. I've always thought is was stupid wording

It seems to be taking the attention to the victims of their action but the word suicide is added to describe the actions of the bomber. A bomber who plans to get away with it, is still a homicide bomber if he or she kills people. The term suicide bomber came about to convey the heighten danger of the bomber, once you decide you don't have to get away with a crime you are much more dangerous and once you decide you don't have to live through your crime you really increase your available targets and the damage you can do.

[Kansas Wyatt]

15. That's where the Republican Geezer Congressmen were getting that.

Hell, they couldn't even spit it out without sounding like their favorite idiot, Glorious Georgie.

[Ex Lion Tamer]

19. Because "freedom fries" was already taken?

[Walt Starr]

20. The REAL Homicide Bombers plant IEDs

and calling a SUICIDE BOMBER that name DENIGRATES THE BRAVE TROOPS KILLED BY IEDs!!!

[jim3775]

22. The white house told them too, really

I remember the first day the "homicide bomber" thing started. I was watching CNN and they cut to breaking news about a bombing in Israel (this was at the height of the second intifada). About 20 minutes in to the coverage the CNN anchor says something like "we have been told that the white house wants us to refer to this as a 'homicide bombing'". They actually started calling it a homicide bombing for a while but it got to erratic when some people said homicide and others said suicide and I remember the anchor making some comments about how silly it was. A while later they switched back to suicide. I switched over to faux news and sure enough everybody and the chyrons said "homicide". It was a very weird thing to watch live.

[TahitiNut]

23. Maybe there's no 'divine wind' allowed in their 'hot air'??

:evilgrin: Too esoteric? :dunce: