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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 08:31 PM
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It's pretty obvious now...
...there is NO INTENTION to get OUT of Iraq. Withdrawl isn't Manly (c. George Carlin)!!! We are NEVER leaving Iraq. General Casey sent Rummy a plan to begin withdrawl, but that's not in the neo-con plan. If YOU feel screwed, how do you think the Iraqi people feel?

We 'fight 'em there so we don't have to fight them here.' But, THERE happens to be home for these people!!!

BushCo is sick. Very, very sick.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 08:33 PM
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1. There never WAS an intention to leave..
How can we steal the oil so quickly and easily if we leave. Their "Mission" IS "Accomplished".
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 08:38 PM
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4. Do you think gas prices have come down on their own..
We have guns on Suadi Arabia now.F'n bastards wanted us off their soil.
As a Dem I find it comical. Christmas is coming the Arabs drop the price. It's a fine line.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 08:54 PM
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7. Just taking a little pressure off
for Saudi Georgie and his fave oil execs..
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 08:36 PM
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2. I think it is cowardly
to want to fight someone on THEIR land and not our own. I can say that safely here on my couch, I know. And I might feel differently if I suddenly heard the local high school explode or something. But it doesn't seem like a very noble motto: Fight them over there so we don't have to fight them here.

Not to mention the fact that mostly likely, over there, we are fighting a hell of a lot more of them than we would be here.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 08:49 PM
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6. Al Qaida is enjoying picking off our troops while they plan their attack
These people take YEARS between attacks. They are happy to help the Iraqi's in their quest to rid their nation of the conquesting Americans, but the few people it takes to carry out an attack are already in training I'm sure. These morons in Washington act like it's a numbers game with these knucklheads - it only takes a few of them to kill a lot of people as wintnessed on numerous occasions. This conventional war in Iraq may give the dumb rednecks some satisfaction, but it does absolutely nothing to impede on the plans of the few who are planning the next big attack in the USA. The Iraq occupation is simply food for rednecks. We are as vulnerable as our new defenses leave us - the Iraq war having nothing to do with our safety.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 08:38 PM
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3. Syria next then Iran and then the world!
The idea of the neo cons is to create stable military bases in the middle east. Now established in Israel and Iraq. So I can't see any withdrawl unless the Plame leak thing gets peachy or should I say impeachy?
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 08:41 PM
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5. 14 permanent bases under construction. Of course we aren't leaving.
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BJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 09:24 PM
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8. I don't think there EVER was this intention anyway
If you read the PNAC material, and factor in that

we've been building permanent military bases

and the terribly predictable warmongering sentiments of a substantial segment of the population (rightly or wrongly)to "stay the course" and "finish the job" which ALWAYS occurs when our country invades somewhere (and no this isn't the first time we've done this, just the most spectacular)

and that *co has not conducted the "war" in any sort of way that could be "winnable" EVER and has not defined what is meant by "victory" or set any goals

And the oil

and Israel

and the fundiefascists

and how war expenditures drain the domestic budget which "necessarily" leads to slashed budgets for social welfare which achieves the goal of the repugs to get rid of social spending

Well, it's pretty easy to conclude that they don't want us to leave the Middle East. Ever.

So, I'm really glad that the Dems are working hard to try to get them pinned down.
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 10:07 PM
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9. We won't let go of our 300 billion dollar investment. nt
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