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freeplessinseattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:25 AM
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None of the 9-11 hijackers was Iraqi, correct?
I am positive I had heard that several times. just wanted to make sure before I used that ammo.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:27 AM
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1. correct!
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:28 AM
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2. this is a joke right!?!?
OF COURSE THEY WEREN'T !!!!!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:29 AM
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3. mostly Saudis
AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 11
7:45 a.m.: Departed Boston for Los Angeles.
8:46 a.m.: Crashed into the north tower of the World Trade Center.

Mohamed Atta, pilot and group leader
Age: 33.
Nationality: Egyptian.
“A walking dead man.” That is how the head of one Florida flight school described this son of a middle-class lawyer and a doting mother. It was not a reference to Atta’s impending suicide, but to his demeanor. Most Floridians who encountered Atta remember him as always serious and frequently boorish. Thought to be a mastermind of the Sept. 11 plot, he and two other leader/pilots, Marwan al-Shehhi and Ziad Jarrah, go back to the late 1990s when they spent time together at Technical University of Hamburg-Harburg in Germany.

Abdulaziz Alomari
Age: Unknown.
Nationality: Saudi.
The last hijacker to arrive in the United States. His grinning face captured at an ATM machine in Portland, Maine, gave rise to an FBI theory that some hijackers did not know the Sept. 11 plot was a suicide mission. Took flying classes in Vero Beach. Trained at a Boynton Beach gym.

Satam M.A. Al Suqami
Age: 25.
Nationality: Saudi.
Tied to a foiled millennium plot to blow up tourist sites. Trained in a Boynton Beach gym.

Wail M. Alshehri
Age: 28.
Nationality: Saudi.
Stayed at motels in Hollywood, Deerfield Beach and Boynton Beach. Brother is Waleed, below.

Waleed M. Alshehri
Age: 22.
Nationality: Saudi.
Generally followed his brother’s movements in Florida. Their father last saw them in December 2000 when Wail Alshehri went away to seek religious help for a psychological problem.

UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 175
7:58 a.m.: Departed Boston for Los Angeles
9:02 a.m.: Crashed into the south tower of the World Trade Center

Marwan al-Shehhi, pilot and group leader
Age: 23.
Nationality: United Arab Emirates.
Al-Shehhi was a friendly foil to his frequent companion, the brooding Atta, as they earned their commercial pilots licenses together in Venice, then trained on a simulator in Opa-Locka near Miami. He and Atta arrived in the United States in the summer of 2000. This time last year, al-Shehhi, Atta and several other Sept. 11 terrorists were living at a Deerfield Beach motel, where the owner noticed they dressed nicely, never went to the beach a block away, never swam in the kidney-shaped pool and always carried black duffel bags.

Fayez Rashid Ahmed Hassan Al Qadi Banihammad
Age: 28.
Nationality: Saudi.
He left home in July 2000, telling his family he was joining the International Islamic Relief Organization. He turned up later in Delray Beach. A year ago this past Tuesday, he purchased his first-class ticket on Flight 175.

Ahmed Alghamdi
Age: 21.
Nationality: Saudi.
One of two Sept. 11 terrorists with ties to a foiled millennium plot to attack tourist destinations. Lived in Delray, but moved to Virginia by this time last year to get in place for the attack.

Hamza Alghamdi
Age: 20.
Nationality: Saudi.
Lived in Delray Beach with two hijackers from Flight 93, the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania.

Mohand Alshehri
Age: 21.
Nationality: Unknown.
Not related to the Alshehri brothers aboard Flight 11. Lived in Delray Beach, where a librarian remembers his name on signup sheets to wait to use a computer.

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AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 77
8:10 a.m.: Departed Washington Dulles for Los Angeles
9:40 a.m.: Crashed into the Pentagon

Hani Hanjour, pilot and group leader
Age: 29.
Nationality: Saudi.
Hanjour led the terrorist group based in San Diego. His only Florida contact came in 1996 when he stayed with friends of his brother in Miramar. In the weeks before Sept. 11, he met twice with Mohamed Atta in Las Vegas. The FBI now believes those sessions at a discount motel were crucial in planning the attacks. Hanjour took flying lessons in Scottsdale, Ariz., where his instructors said his skills were poor. Investigators say that could be the reason Flight 77, with Hanjour at the controls, began to jerk.

Nawaf Alhazmi
Age: 25.
Nationality: Unknown.

Majed Moqed
Age: Unknown.
Nationality: Unknown.

Khalid Almihdhar
Age: Unknown.
Nationality: Unknown.

Salem Alhazmi
Age: Uknown.
Nationality: Saudi.

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UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 93
8:42 a.m.: Departed Newark for San Francisco
10:01 a.m.: Crashed in Stony Creek Township, Penn.

Ziad Samir Jarrah, pilot and group leader
Age: 26.
Nationality: Lebanese.
Jarrah was the leader of the only hijacking group with four members, a factor that may have enabled a group of passengers to overpower them. Raised in a middle-class family, Jarrah left Lebanon in 1996. In Germany, he partied and seemed to enjoy Western culture. In 1999, after meeting Atta, he got his pilot’s license in Hamburg and dropped out of school. He turned up several months later in Venice, Fla., to take flying lessons. In 2001, he moved to Hollywood and began martial arts classes. On Sept. 9, he checked out of a Deerfield Beach motel with Atta, al-Shehhi and others.

Saeed Alghamdi
Age: 25.
Nationality: Saudi.
One of three hijackers who rented a $900-a-month condo in the Delray Beach Racquet Club near I-95. On Sept. 7, Alghamdi and roommate Ahmed Alnami flew from Fort Lauderdale to Newark on Spirit Airlines to get in position for Sept. 11.

Ahmed Ibrahim A. Al Haznawi
Age: 20.
Nationality: Saudi.
Once lived in Lauderdale by the Sea, two blocks from the beach, with Jarrah. Drove Jarrah’s sporty Mitsubishi Eclipse.

Ahmed Alnami
Age: 23.
Nationality: Saudi.
At 5-feet-9 inches tall, he was among the taller hijackers.

http://www.sptimes.com/2002/09/01/911/plotters.shtml
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freeplessinseattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:45 AM
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8. awesome! Thank you!
now I have all my ducks in a row. this should be fun.
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:29 AM
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4. And at least 7 survived the crash alive... n/t
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:33 AM
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5. more info >
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:40 AM
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6. Indeed read the biographies...
They went to prostitutes, went on a gambling trip, were out drinking many nights, useds drugs, were chain smokers and were hardly ever seen entering a mosk. This was the new breed of atheist muslim extremist hijackers...
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:44 AM
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7. Be ready for the airliner used for "terra training" in Iraq straw man too
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?030512fa_fact

<snip>Almost immediately after September 11th, the I.N.C. began to publicize the stories of defectors who claimed that they had information connecting Iraq to the attacks. In an interview on October 14, 2001, conducted jointly by the Times and “Frontline,” the public-television program, Sabah Khodada, an Iraqi Army captain, said that the September 11th operation “was conducted by people who were trained by Saddam,” and that Iraq had a program to instruct terrorists in the art of hijacking. Another defector, who was identified only as a retired lieutenant general in the Iraqi intelligence service, said that in 2000 he witnessed Arab students being given lessons in hijacking on a Boeing 707 parked at an Iraqi training camp near the town of Salman Pak, south of Baghdad.

In separate interviews with me, however, a former C.I.A. station chief and a former military intelligence analyst said that the camp near Salman Pak had been built not for terrorism training but for counter-terrorism training. In the mid-eighties, Islamic terrorists were routinely hijacking aircraft. In 1986, an Iraqi airliner was seized by pro-Iranian extremists and crashed, after a hand grenade was triggered, killing at least sixty-five people. (At the time, Iran and Iraq were at war, and America favored Iraq.) Iraq then sought assistance from the West, and got what it wanted from Britain’s MI6. The C.I.A. offered similar training in counter-terrorism throughout the Middle East. “We were helping our allies everywhere we had a liaison,” the former station chief told me. Inspectors recalled seeing the body of an airplane—which appeared to be used for counter-terrorism training—when they visited a biological-weapons facility near Salman Pak in 1991, ten years before September 11th. It is, of course, possible for such a camp to be converted from one purpose to another. The former C.I.A. official noted, however, that terrorists would not practice on airplanes in the open. “That’s Hollywood rinky-dink stuff,” the former agent said. “They train in basements. You don’t need a real airplane to practice hijacking. The 9/11 terrorists went to gyms. But to take one back you have to practice on the real thing.”

Salman Pak was overrun by American troops on April 6th. Apparently, neither the camp nor the former biological facility has yielded evidence to substantiate the claims made before the war.



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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:47 AM
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9. Our dear friend Chalabi supplied that information
And some other useless crap. But hey, he got a cool million for it and is now running Iraq. And his fellow aristocrat the king of Jordan forgave him for a minor $300 million scam...
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:13 PM
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10. bush was going to "get" those responsible for 9/11
It seemed to me that those responsible were on the planes.
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