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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 04:32 PM
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Can anyone explain the rationale behind not setting a timetable
to leave Iraq? I know that they say the terrorists will just wait us out if we give them a date that we're leaving. Aren't the going to just wait anyway, specific date or not?

Or are we planning to stay there forever, so that they can't wait us out?

One day, are all the Iraqis just going to wake up one morning and find that the US troops have just disappeared out of their country in the dark of night? And that it will so take the terrorists by surprise that they won't go on a tear?

Someone needs to call Bushco on this crap. No one does.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 04:34 PM
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1. Bushco says a timetable will make the insurgents think they are winning
or some such shit :puke:
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 04:47 PM
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5. Insurgents will know how long they can lie low before they start a war.
It´s the curse of occupiers. We can never leave.
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 04:51 PM
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6. That's what I was thinking. They can lie low until we leave,
however long that might be. So we can't leave.

Of course, if what's going on now is laying low, I'm dreading what it's going to be like afterwards.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 04:57 PM
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11. My suggestion is to announce the date after which we will BILL Iraq
for security services.

I KNOW this sounds like charging someone for the priviledge of breaing all their china. BUT, this would certainly encourage Iraq to get their forces in place. Americans aren't going to be the cheapest force available. Blackwater or Halliburton can arrange the details if the French Foreign Legion cannot.

I think a date of June 2006 would be a good one. It provides plenty of time to get the basic training done for a new Iraqi army. It gives time to get the basic equipment and support infrastructure in place.


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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 04:34 PM
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2. Feingold did - several times
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 04:34 PM by Mass
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 04:35 PM
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3. They don't want to leave.
They never intended to leave.

That's why.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 04:52 PM
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7. That's the one thing that changed in the bill
From "we have to let the Iraqi people know that we will be leaving" to "we have to let the Iraqi people know that we will stay as long as necessary.

And how long will it be necessary? Could be 10 years, 15, 35, 50 years. Those military bases were made to last.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 04:36 PM
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4. Of Coure I Can Explain It
It is the notion of opposites.

Republicans are the opposites of Democrats.

Republicans are to be treated the opposite of Democrats.

When Clinton was a Democrat

Bush is a Republican.

The demands placed on Bush must be, therefore, opposite of those placed on Clinton,

Even Bush himself demanded a timetable from Clinton and so it is appropriate that it be Bush himself that denys a timetable from himself.

Make sense?
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 04:52 PM
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8. Thanks. That now makes it as clear as the fog that
clouds Bushco's mind. <g>
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 04:53 PM
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9. The real one or the fake one?
:shrug:

The real one involves maximizing corp profits and power.
The fake one is ensuring freedom and democracy and all that.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 04:55 PM
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10. Their excuse for no timetable is ludicrous on it's face
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 04:56 PM by Spazito
Everyone with one eye and half an asshole, including the 'terraists', know the bush admin is going to have to, at the very least, draw down the troop numbers in Iraq sometime next year in an attempt to protect their majority in the House and Senate.

Their ridiculous excuses can only be accepted by those who believe those in the Middle East communicate via drums and runners, are barely above caveman status when, as is very evident in Iraq, the opposite is true.

Edited to correct punctuation error
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