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Liberate Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 02:20 PM
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Dr. Strange Love The Film
Has anyone seen the film Dr. Strangelove ? I thought the plot was hysterical and very much like todays Bush White House. From the cowboy pro war diplomacy, to the incompetence and non concern for human life.
Dr. Strangelove indeed is very similar to todays Rumsfeld.
My only complaint though is that I couldnt understand what was being said half the time due to Dr. Strangelove's strong german accent. Still a real good film though
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 02:23 PM
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1. One of Kubrick's best, IMO
It's one of those you just never get tired of. Peter Seller's was as talented as they come.

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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 03:02 PM
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13. Second
In that I second your emation.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 02:24 PM
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2. "I'm not saying we won't get our hair mussed..."
"...but no more than ten to twnety million killed...TOPS. Depending on the breaks."
--Gen. Buck Turgidson

The funny thing is that Annthrax Coulter referred to "getting our hair mussed" when talking about our casualties in Iraq.

Who says life doesn't imitate art?

"Dr. Strangelove" is one of those movies which should be watched many times more than once.
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Liberate Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 02:37 PM
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5. yeah general buck turgidson
General Buck Turgidson, that was the name i was looking for. Now if I can just remember the names of the other major characters. Like the general who started the war, his assistant and the president. Any help?
The funniest part I believe, and this is hysterical is when the cowboy pilot who wants to" nuke the ruskies" accidently ends up sitting on the missle thats heading into the soviet union, screaming yee haaa all the way. very funny
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 02:42 PM
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7. Some answers for Liberate
President Merikan Muffly (Peter Sellers)
Gen Jack D. Ripper (Sterling Hayden) = initiated the attack
Group Captain Lionel Mandrake = his First Officer
Burpleson Air Force Base = where Gen. Ripper is in command

Actually, before I type all this out, try this link...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057012/combined
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 02:46 PM
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9. One of my all-time favorite movies
I think the generals’ name was Jack Ripper
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donotpassgo Donating Member (867 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 02:47 PM
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10. Jack D. Ripper
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donotpassgo Donating Member (867 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 02:27 PM
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3. See the resemblance...


and

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 02:36 PM
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4. Deterrence is the art of producing in the mind of the enemy
... the FEAR to attack! Here's the line in context:

Strangelove:

Mr. President, it is not only possible, it is essential. That is the whole idea of this machine, you know. Deterrence is the art of producing in the mind of the enemy... the fear to attack. And so, because of the automated and irrevocable decision making process which rules out human meddling, the doomsday machine is terrifying. It's simple to understand. And completely credible, and convincing.

Turgidson:

Gee, I wish we had one of them doomsday machines, Stainsy.

Muffley:

But this is fantastic, Strangelove. How can it be triggered automatically?

Strangelove:

Well, it's remarkably simple to do that. When you merely wish to bury bombs, there is no limit to the size. After that they are connected to a gigantic complex of computers. Now then, a specific and clearly defined set of circumstances, under which the bombs are to be exploded, is programmed into a tape memory bank.

Turgidson:

Strangelove. What kind of a name is that? That ain't no kraut name, is it, Stainsy?

Stains:

He changed it when he became a citizen. It used to be Merkwurkdigliebe.

Turgidson:

Hmm. A kraut, by any other name, huh, Stainsy?

Strangelove:

Yes, but the... whole point of the doomsday machine... is lost... if you keep it a secret! Why didn't you tell the world, eh?

DeSadeski:

It was to be announced at the Party Congress on Monday. As you know, the Premier loves surprises.

The continuity script:

http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/amk/doc/0055.html




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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 02:38 PM
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6. "We've had a little problem with the Bomb.
...The Bomb, Dimitri. The atomic Bomb."

And of course my all time favorite:

"Now see here, Sergeant 'Batguano' if that really is your name."
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 02:44 PM
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8. "One of our Generals, well, he went a little funny in the head."
"You know...funny. And he did a silly thing. Well, I'll tell you. He ordered his planes...to...attack...your country."
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 03:11 PM
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15. "Friendly? Of course it's a friendly call. Listen, if it weren't friendly
...you probably wouldn't even have gotten it."
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 05:53 PM
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21. "Well, how do you think *I* feel?"
:7
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 02:49 PM
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11. I loved the scene with the Coke machine.
This is one of the 10 great films of all time.
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Liberate Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 02:54 PM
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12. another good scene
General Turgidson and the russian ambassador are fighting. President-- what are you's fighting? theres no fighting in the war room!

General Turgidson-- Yeah but he was taking pictures...of the big board!
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wadestock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 03:09 PM
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14. It's about military in the government.....
Dr. Strangelove is an excellent treatise in how dysfunctional the government gets with military presence.

Bureaucracy is bad enough as it is....couple that with a military mindset and you have a built in recipe for disaster.

This is quite fundamentally why the Bush administration (actually the mantra of most Reaganites) or ANY future US administration that views things conceptually and acts in terms of military doctrine is destined to screw up.

Another very sad thing about this is how great it WAS to have a ready and able volunteer army that SHOULD have been used sparingly and SHOULD have been part of an overall military philosophy of constraint.

Bush ABUSED this volunteer army in a very dramatic way....you are now just seeing the first clear signs of it breaking by the seams.......

Give it time....and you'll be seeing stuff quite similar to Dr. Strangelove right on your own TV set.....
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 03:23 PM
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16. For Sellers fans, don't overlook "Being There"
Sellers plays a developmentally delayed adult whose simplistic description of the world in gardening terms is mistaken for economic genius by the President.

Hilarious.

kinda like Dumbya as Sec of State.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 03:28 PM
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17. Make sure and watch the 'unfunny version' too
Edited on Wed Oct-15-03 03:29 PM by htuttle
A movie called 'Fail Safe' starring Henry Fonda and lots and lots of other big names. Really similar plot, no humor whatsoever. Quite good, terrifying ending.

They came out at nearly the same time, so the producers of Fail Safe held their movie back for a few months so it wasn't confused with Dr. Strangelove.

Interestingly enough, both movies contain characters based on early Neo-cons (Strangelove in one, Walter Matthau's 'Professor Groeteschele' character in the other).
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Kanola Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 03:29 PM
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18. Kubrick's brilliant SATIRE of it's time
n/t
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 03:57 PM
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20. GREATEST COMEDY OF ALL TIME!!!
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