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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:08 PM
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I nominate the following to be the first casualties and examples of
our wrath.
Kent Conrad of North Dakota
Mary Landrieu of Louisiana
Joe Lieberman of Connecticut
Ben Nelson of Nebraska
Ron Wyden of Oregon.
They can serve as a warning to those other DINO's of what will happen to them if they carry on as the corporate politiwhores they are.
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afdip Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:25 PM
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1. why don't we concentrate on defeating repukes in '06 first . . . .
Edited on Tue Nov-15-05 01:29 PM by afdip
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:55 PM
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4. I think the point is that it doesn't matter which letter follows their
name, they are working toward the disintegration of our country. Would you vote for one of these POS over a re:puke: that works for the betterment of his/her community?
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afdip Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 05:59 PM
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18. i understand your point, but i know what happens when the
"d's" outnumber the "r's" in congress . . . i'd rather have some marginal democrats if it shifted the balance of power to them instead of the repukes. the first order of business is retaking the house and senate, regardless of personal preferences in individual races. there are too many fuckheads who voted for nader because of some quirk and look what we have today.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:36 PM
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24. I think that quirk was wanting to actually change the government
Imagine what a radical concept ending corporate welfare was. If Gore wasn't 'Just Another Politician' he would have jumped all over this issue and made Nader insignificant, but no, he is "JAP".
:shrug:
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afdip Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 08:41 AM
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25. and if gore is "just another politician," what does that make bush??
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 09:21 AM
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26. * is what he's always been, a total fuck-up.
Nice dodge BTW. I put much more of the blame for 2000 on donna brazile and Gore (who listened to her). If they hadn't been so stupid and listened to us, Nader would have been, again, insignificant.
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:28 PM
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2. Lieberman is a virus
The most boring man in the known universe. Also, he did nothing when CT closed many of its unemployment information offices during the largest wave of layoffs in decades. Thousands of workers were left high and dry concerning access to assistance and many were even denied. And he...did...nothing.

Great guy, huh? Makes you feel glad you pay him to do his job...

:grr:

:nuke:
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:57 PM
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6. I'm convinced the voters in CT are somehow brain damaged, or
could it be that CT is full of "I've got mine, fuck you" DINO's?
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 04:52 PM
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17. Yeah, I think you've got it
Super-rich, pasty-faced white people predominate. Howard Stern once said, "In Connecticut, you can't get arrested for necrophilia, because technically, everyone is a corpse."

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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 06:28 PM
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21. LOL
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:43 PM
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3. i think Landrieu just might have enough on her plate
shes trying to rebuild her state and has to walk on eggshells so they dont get even more fucked.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:56 PM
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5. Which made her vote even more heinous. n/t
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:58 PM
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7. Two Party political systems are a numbers game
Dump those individuals, and we do not take back the Senate.

Although I disagree with these individuals on a number of levels, I cannot condone taking them out when we have an actual shot at taking back the Senate.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 02:05 PM
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8. But what difference does having the senate make if those with the
seniority to run it are the same shitheads with different letters after their names?
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 02:44 PM
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9. IF you take control of the Senate
then you take away the power to set the agenda, run all of the committees, and assign committee chairmanships away from the Republicans, that's the difference it makes.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 03:13 PM
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10. But they have the same agenda, to continue looting the U.S. treasury
the difference is which corporate thieves get how much.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 03:22 PM
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12. Look at it this way
You have a cut artery. You can either let it bleed out fast or you can slow the bleeding. which do you choose?
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 03:27 PM
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14. Does it matter? You're going to bleed to death either way...
I'd rather get it over with.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 03:46 PM
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16. If you stem the flow of blood immediately
you have a chance to save yourself in the long term.

Otherwise, you just bleed out right away.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 06:26 PM
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20. I think your analogy works. Problem is you have no health insurance
Edited on Tue Nov-15-05 06:26 PM by greyhound1966
so there is no one to repair the artery and stop the hemorrhaging. So you have a choice of quick or slow, but you are going to die.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:07 PM
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23. I agree, Walt...
It does make a difference. Besides, with a Dem majority, maybe some of the DINOS wouldn't be so willing to vote with the Republicans. We would have a chance to force them to change, once we've regained control. After we are in the majority, we can weed out the DINOS.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 09:25 AM
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27. LOL!
Because that's worked so well for 40+ years. :rofl:
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 03:16 PM
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11. The deal is, these senators are opportunists
Their stance comes solely from their opinion that the people want the things they are selling. If by some chance we retake the Senate, you can expect them to drop thier conservative-leaning stance in a heartbeat.
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LondonReign2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 03:24 PM
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13. You've got to clean out the hideous R's before the mediocre D's
Edited on Tue Nov-15-05 03:29 PM by LondonReign2
Much as I dislike Lieberman and Nelson, we are going to have a hard enough time retaking the Senate without shooting arrows at those on our side, even if they aren't as progressive as we'd like.

Dorgan and Nelson, however, almost have to be DINOs to get elected in their states.

After we are in the majority again we can think about replacing them with more liberal members. Until then, let's concentrate our firepower on taking out those most in need-- Santorum, Talent, etc.
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afdip Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 06:00 PM
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19. precisely correct . . . thank you
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 09:56 AM
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29. Just how do you propose getting rid of them afterward?
Then they'll be the majority and you think they're going to pass election reform? Stop the gerrymandering? Open up the primary process? You believe the DNC will finance their opponents?
Fat chance. :banghead:
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i_c_a_White_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 03:29 PM
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15. Add Pryor D-Arkansas to your list
He voted with the repukes today
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 06:42 PM
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22. Yay!

Purge the party of moderates! Ideological purity at any cost! No compromise with the electorate! One thousand years of glorious opposition! If you are not with us you are against us!
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 09:30 AM
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28. They are not moderates by any definition you chose
It is not moderate to vote to cut essential services that million of citizens count on for their very lives. It isn't moderate to vote to give billions of our tax dollars to corporations that are making record profits already, nor to give more billions to mis-managed airlines so they can loot the pensions, lay off the workers, and further cut wages and benefits.
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