IS SOMETHING ELSE STRANGE GOING ON HERE

[cloud_chaser1]

Forgive me for reverting to Matt Sludge and his disreputable milieu but he wrote something, that if true, may require questioning. Namely....What The Hell Is Going on?

We know that the atmosphere in the WH is putrid these days but if the Sludge comment is true, we need to know what is happening between the ears of *.

Sludge writes:
"The sources said Mr. Bush maintains daily contact with only four people: first lady Laura Bush, his mother, Barbara Bush, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Undersecretary of State Karen Hughes. The sources also say that Mr. Bush has stopped talking with his father, except on family occasions."

Seems that * doesnt trust anyone anymore, especially his staff of advisers and has shut himself off from them. Does this mean Laura and Barbara are in charge? Like Mrs Wilson after Woodrow became incapacitated? Is there a law, a rule, a regulation or a tradition of some sort that is being violated here?

[I Have A Dream]

1. Interesting that they're all women. n/t

[jobycom]

6. They're all the most likely to tell him he's a great man.

Not because they're women, but because they are all close to him for personal reasons. Mother, wife, surrogate wife (lover) and surrogate mother. He just wants to be loved.

And Daddy has never loved him. Bush is the Oedipal president.

[FreedomAngel82]

23. Oh for sure

And you can tell that Poppy has always liked Jeb better than George.

[jobycom]

29. Can't blame him. I like JEB better than George

In the way I like a paper cut better than slicing off a finger chopping an onion.

[Moosepoop]

73. Hell, Poppy likes BILL better than George!

And that sure sticks in George's craw, I'll bet! }(

[NNN0LHI]

11. Yea sure I don't take the garbage out without checking with my wife first

Hey thats the way things be.

Don

[cantstandbush]

47. Well, "irresponsible" is a Karen Hughes word if that means anything. n/t

[EuroObserver]

65. Absolutely. Nothing better than supportive (manipulative) women

...when you find yourself in deep shit.

Not hysterically laughing: :o

Crying, yeah: :cry:

Cool: :hippie:

[gmoney]

2. Mama's boy?

Sounds like he needs a bosom as a pillow.

[fooj]

3. What a tit baby!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :rofl:

peace.

[Ilsa]

59. Tit babies are mroe respectful of human life that DimSon.

Frankly, I wish GHW Bush would drop dead from embarrassment over his son's stupidity and calculated aggression. He deserves to buy it too because because he worked hard to get him that job when he knew hw wasn't up to it, and when he knew hw was surrounding himself with those insane neocons.

[The Backlash Cometh]

4. If Sludge is against him, it can only mean that Bush is now

reconsidering the Right-wing playbook. And/or, Bush has become a liability to the Republican party. I'd say they're about to Clintonize Bush. The fact that Andrew Sullivan is just revving up on a mainstream paper tells me that this ain't going to get pretty. I hope the Democrats won't get all bleeding heart when they see what the Right is going to do to Bush. I suggest you pay attention to see who on the Right is flogging Bush the hardest, because he's probably worried that if Bush isn't accepted as the sacrificial pig, that more will follow.

[FreedomAngel82]

25. I agree

I think if that does happen the democrats should just keep doing their plans and stay out of their way. Let them eat their own. It worked well with Harriet Miers. Andrew Sullivan has been against Bush for a good while now I believe. I think late last year he was on Bill Maher's show and he was pissed at him and those on the "religious right".

[The Backlash Cometh]

48. I think it would be helpful to remind the religious right who Andrew

Sullian is, and to make sure they understand he speaks for them. tee-hee.

[TahitiNut]

5. There's a limit to what medications can do for pathological narcissism.

He's been headed for a meltdown for years. I'm a bit surprised he's not gone publicly nuclear yet. Perhaps he'll show the psychological "China Syndrome" on his current travels. As I've said, Junior* will most likely be 'martyred' by the global Reich before mid-2008.

[4morewars]

9. That's, "Nook-U-lar"

The "S" is silent !

[electropop]

14. He'll be out by August 2006.

They can't afford to have him around during the 2006 elections.

[TahitiNut]

22. While remotely possible, I don't think it's likely.

Of the reasons for 'martyring' him, the prospect of him running around loose as an ex-pResident without the support staff (enablers) and campaign audiences (his narcissistic supply) is very high. While he's still nesting in piles of taxpayer money and huge numbers of 'security' personnel that keep him isolated and insulated from the realities of his existence, he's far more controllable. (I personally think he's had some "near mini-meltdowns" that they've handled at Camp David and the Pig Ranch.) When combined with the 'market value' of the "Honored Dead" and the probable herd-instinct in confronting whatever external threat is designated as the primary scapegoat, the act of martyring him at that time is highly likely, imho. If the Reich deems it necessary to cash in on that market value early - like summer 2006 - then the remaining two years (2007/8) are even more ominous than heretofore contemplated... for both 'sides.' IOW, both the 2006 General Election and the remaining two years become subject to an order of magnitude more socio-political chaos than we've yet considered.

OTOH, if Cheney continues to become more visible and publicly active, as he has for the last couple of weeks, then the 2006 thesis (preceded by preemptive pardons) becomes more contemplatable.

[ewagner]

46. Good, reasonable analysis

:applause:

[AndyTiedye]

56. I REALLY Hope They've Taken the "Football" Away From Him

if they ever really let him have it.:nuke::nuke::nuke:

Not that letting Cheney have it is that much better.:scared:

[TallahasseeGrannie]

7. Uh oh

I'd guess Condie is carrying a lot of messages these days.

[BigMcLargehuge]

8. Ahhhh life in the bunker

it never ends well.

[Jacobin]

10. I thought Poppy was going to Asia with him

To try to make sure he didn't create some international incident to screw up trade with China?
:shrug:

[electropop]

15. Yeah, he needs to make sure Bush doesn't puke at some fancy

Japanese dinner. Oh wait, Bush Sr. already did that...

[KCS72000]

12. So, I guess he dosen't meet with Rove every day.

Be careful.

[KansDem]

13. Has he stopped listening to Harriet Miers?

...aka "Woman No. Five?"

Has George "You're the Best Governor Ever" Bush stopped taking the advice of Harriet "Ogle Eyes" Miers?

Man, no wonder he's been in such a blue funk lately!

;(I'm no longer the "Best Governor Ever..."

[earth mom]

16. Okay, gotta say that this scares the hell out of me!

Because this is NOT a well man! :crazy:

Hold on ya'll...it's gonna be a bumpy ride! :scared:

[seabeyond]

17. i keep going to the mama me seeing bush in fetal position

sucking thumb. told a bush is a good christian, i pray for him every night gal....... just yesterday

her eyes glassed over with me saying, i dont hate bush, i see him in fetal position sucking his thumb, crying out for mama.

she coldly told me, i dont see him like that at all

hm

am i so far off

[nadinbrzezinski]

18. Hmm The Globe has a similar vein, not that the Globe or

sludge talk to each other... the circling of the wagons feel that is.

Oh and at the risk of being screamed at, CHB, also has made mention of the toxic atmosphere, as well as NewsWeek, Time and some other sources... it is starting to sound like.... the last days of Nixon.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

19. Poppy went public with his opposition to invading Iraq, and Junior's....

...been trying to prove him wrong ever since.

I doubt seriously that Georgie-Porgie takes a leak without Karl Rove being there to aim it. Hadley is another guy that strikes me as being within the inner circle.

[FreedomAngel82]

26. I wouldn't be surprised

Last night I watched "Bush's Brain" and reminded me of how involved Karl Rove is in everything with Bush. Bush doesn't do anything without Karl. So I'm pretty sure Karl is still in touch daily with either Bush himself or someone else in the group they trust.

[SeattleVet]

20. Will Gary Trudeau start using the cinderblock wall

in front of the White House again, like in the early 70's when they also had that "bunker mentality"?

Good grief, this guy really IS trying to out-Nixon Nixon! Enemies list - check; unpopular war - check; falling approval ratings - check; massive protests - check (OK, he missed going out at midnight to sit and chat with the protesters on the steps of the Jefferson memorial, but he had to get to bed early.)

Remember, Dubya - the China trip comes BEFORE the "I am not a crook" speech. (Followed shortly afterwards by that little "resigning in disgrace" thing.)

[nadinbrzezinski]

24. According to one caller he did the I am not a crook or

rather mommy, momy they are changing history speech already... out of order if yuo ask me

[RaleighNCDUer]

28. * doesn't have the balls to talk face to face with protesters.

I swear, he's the only person in the world who could make me admire Nixon, by comparison.

[jobycom]

31. He has balls, just not the brains

Balls just dangle there on men, they do little else. Bush lacks the brains to hold his own with a protestor. Nixon was many bad things, but unintelligent wasn't one of them. Not that he used his intelligence for good. But he had it. Bush lacks that.

All of our presidents have had balls. A clear sign of an unequal society, if yo ask me.

[RaleighNCDUer]

40. Good point. Guess I'm showing my age.

Sometimes, encultured sexism rears it's ugly little head.

'Balls' in not only politically incorrect, but anthropometrically incorrect -- I've known many women who have more 'balls' than the men around them. Say instead, combination of brains and guts (without going into the morphology of entrails).

:)

[Marie26]

But where's the Checkers speech? n/t

[Marie26]

35. dupe dope

[FreedomAngel82]

21. If it's true he deserves it

Of course Condi is there.

[Junkdrawer]

27. The Sockpuppet-In-Chief doesn't give orders - he takes them...

and if he works better with Rice or Hughes giving him the orders, all the more time for the real powers to do their evil bidding.

[dbeach]

30. Candi is his child sitter per orders of poppy o

to educate jr a lil bout wurld affairs and keep him off the hard stuff like coke..a lil drinky poo is OK but no hard stuff so Candi reports directly to poppy o who is really much of the power behind the throne and sauron cheny of course.

[Marie26]

32. I bet he talks to Harriet Miers too

The consistent theme is that these are people who will prop up his ego, and will "mother" him. I think his ego is so fragile at this point that he isn't really willing to talk to anyone who might lower his self-esteeem. Even Rumsfeld & Cheney are off-limits, cause they remind him of the Iraq War. Rove is off-limits cause he reminds him of the leak scandal. These might be the only four people left that he feels he can trust. Scary. Bush is constucting his own little bubble - no reality let in. But this isn't a violation, he's not incapacitated (except by his own ego), he's free to talk to whoever he wants. But at a certain point, it seems he might stop talking to anyone if he can't hear what he wants to hear.

[RaleighNCDUer]

36. At what point is mental illness incapacitating? nt

[Mr_Spock]

33. I think they're trying to intimidate us. Bush is crazy, Bill O. "list"

I think they are trying to take advantage of possible paranoia - as relates to their fascist tendencies. I'm keeping an eye on this one...

[DearAbby]

34. I don't believe any law is being broken...I may be wrong

Unless he is incapacitated by illness that affected his mental ability. The advisers his picks are his choice. scary I know


On the other note, what is going on between Poppy and Shrub? Like to know the details of that.

:evilgrin:

[Marie26]

38. I'm wondering if Bush Sr. is sort of quietly withdrawing his support.

You can kind of tell by what Bush Sr.'s advisors are saying. Brent Scowcroft recently said that he doesn't know this Cheney, that this is a "different" Dick Cheney. (read scarier) Colin Powell & Wilkerson, who were w/Joint Chiefs of Staff under Bush Sr., have all but stated they are ashamed of hwat happened before the Iraq war. Bush Sr. himself said it was important to him to have a variety of opinions on an issue, and implicit slam on Bush Jr.'s approach. I wonder if W is actually scaring Bush Sr. a little bit - it seems clear that he & his buddies have come to some sort of negative conclusion about this administration.

[MN ChimpH8R]

43. The Scowcroft interview

in the New Yorker was devastating. It's widely believed that he was speaking for Poppy in that as they are best buddies. I loathe Bush Sr. - he's just another part of the Bush Crime Family, but I'm sure his comment to the Dim Son at this point would be "told ya so, son. Why do you think I stopped at the Kuwaiti border?"

[hvn_nbr_2]

63. Poppy has to have been appalled at the outing of Plame.

Remember that he was Director of CIA. It probably defines him more than having been president. There were stories that lots of CIA people got Reagan-Bush bumperstickers, cut off the Reagan part, and put up the Bush part in CIA offices, to show where their loyalties were; and that didn't happen without loyalty going the other direction too.

Wastrel Son is endangering everything that the whole BFEE has worked for for generations.

[Nimrod2005]

37. Yes...It should be against the law to have idiots like him in the WH

[Fleshdancer]

39. Jr. reeks of having serious Daddy issues

Not that I neccessarily believe Drudge (or care for that matter) but over the years DUers like myself have always suspected tension between the two.

[Cleita]

41. Seems like he wants to be surrounded by his nannies.

It's all nice and safe in the nursery in your snug little crib, with mama to tuck you in, and Laura to read you a bedtime story and Karen and Condi checking out the closet and under the bed to make sure the monsters are gone.

[burythehatchet]

42. and because its a filthy job

Harriet Miers wipes his ass for him

[underpants]

44. Sounds tired possibly depressed. Wants to avoid life

so he has a small group buffer around him. Sounds a lot like an alcoholic too. With the Holiday Season coming around things will get more somber and morose.

Just a guess but that is what it sounds like to me.

:shrug:

Maybe they just finally told him or he is okay with his role of coming out and reading a speech (getting nastier by the day) and that is really it.

[Tace]

45. The Drudge Story Is From Insight Magazine -- A Mooney Weekly

It's sort of bizarre that Insight would run such a story. It really does make one wonder "What is going on here?"

[progressivebydesign]

49. Yeah, when Poppy's pals run a story like that....

.. you have to wonder what's up.

[NightOwwl]

50. Bush's Secret Breakdown.

Not so secret anymore.

[Chicago Democrat]

51. Goddess save us from this stupid idiotic helpless hapless man!

please

[SoCalDem]

52. George W. Nixon is "born".. It looks like he's hanging out with

a few old friends lately...

Johnny Walker & Jim Beam

[girl gone mad]

53. Oh, please.. blame the women.

I see what's happening here.

[EuroObserver]

67. Absolutely not {evil sexy grin}

Who do you blame? Men?

[Miss Chybil]

54. I hope he doesn't start shooting his generals.

He sounds so... Stalinesque. Maybe, he'll shoot himself? Ah, but then we'd have Cheney. I can't believe we, the United States of America, have a president who is this fucked up. I guess it's our turn.

[AntiFascist]

55. One wonders if White House counsel has advised him to....

stop talking with Cheney, Rove and others in the WHIG.

[Warren DeMontague]

57. Bush only sees 4 people? I don't think that's true. Look at all the names!

I drink alone, yeah
With nobody else
I drink alone, yeah
With nobody else
You know when I drink alone
I prefer to be by myself

Every morning just before breakfast
I don't want no coffee or tea
Just me and good buddy Wiser
That's all I ever need
'Cause I drink alone, yeah
With nobody else
Yeah, you know when I drink alone
I prefer to be by myself

The other night I laid sleeping
And I woke from a terrible dream
So I caught up my pal Jack Daniel's
And his partner Jimmy Beam
And we drank alone, yeah
With nobody else
Yeah, you know when I drink alone
I prefer to be by myself

The other day I got invited to a party
But I stayed home instead
Just me and my pal Johnny Walker
And his brothers Black and Red
And we drank alone, yeah
With nobody else
Yeah, you know when I drink alone
I prefer to be by myself

My whole family done give up on me
And it makes me feel oh so bad
The only one who will hang out with me
Is my dear Old Grand-Dad
And we drink alone, yeah
With nobody else
Yeah, you know when I drink alone
I prefer to be by myself

[cornermouse]

58. I sincerely hope its not true that he's not talking to his father.

At least Bush Sr. knows what he's doing before he makes a decision. I especially liked his (Bush Sr.) decision not to invade Iraq.

[amandabeech]

61. If Bush I became the effective President again,

I doubt that we would invade Syria or Iraq. Poppy and his crew have not been associated with the PNAC from whence a lot of the international nonsense originates.

[AntiFascist]

62. Know your BFEE...

Poppy and crew may have known when it was time to stop, but they are responsible for more than you may realize.

[amandabeech]

71. I am well aware of some of the nasty stuff Poppy and his friends

have been involved in. However, the Iraq invasion may well turn out much, much worse for the U.S., and indeed, the world, than Vietnam, even if the casualties, at least on our side, never measure up. The idea of using the Vietnamese as a bulwark against Chinese and a proxy for the Russians does not match up to oil and gas riches in the Middle East.

[CoffeeCat]

60. I'm not trying to be melodramatic, but this is exactly what Hitler did...

Hitler slowly hyper-isolated himself from the world.

We all know how well that went.

A leader needs to reach out to as many as possible, when things aren't going well. Junior should be calling more meetings, listening to additional advisers and reaching out even more.

This isolation is a sign of instability and mental distress.

The leader of the free world should be forced out of this dangerous behavior. He needs to start acting like a man, instead of a petulant little child. He's got responsibilities, for God's sakes and he needs to answer to the people of this country.

If he wants to hole himself up, and only speak to his mommy--then he needs to get the frick out of office so we can find a normal, emotionally stable person to run the country.

[mcscajun]

64. Reading too much into the line, I think.

Certainly I'll believe that Shrub has stopped speaking to his dad.

"...maintains daily contact with only four people..." To me, that means there are only four people he sees or speaks with Every Day.

I'm not buying that he sees No One Else on Any Day.

Anyhow, even if you buy my interpretation it's still pretty bizarre. In a normal administration (yeah, like this has been within LIGHT Years of normal, ever!) there'd be certain key members who would see the President every day. Couldn't get much done, otherwise.

Of course, it would be interesting to see what Cheney's "day sheet" looks like 'round about now.

[lovuian]

66. isn't it fascinating how he trusts women more than men

that says alot about Poppy Bush!!!

[upi402]

68. OH! So those cereatures are 'women'! Ahhh, ok

:nopity:

[EVDebs]

69. The President has agoraphobia . That would normally be diagnosed

medically but it is so obviously painful for anyone but a died-in-the-wool Republican to watch him speak extemporaneously.

It is pure torture to watch his 'press conferences' which are mercifully few and far between, thank God.

Incapacitated ? No, just unfit for command to begin with.

[OregonBlue]

70. Very telling that it's all "women". For all his swagger, he goes

running to mamma when things get tough. On the other hand, I bet the neo-con cabal that put him in power will drop him like a hot potatoe when he is of no further use to them and he's got to know that!

He's probably paranoid for a very good reason.

[undergroundpanther]

72. Condi is his sex toy