Repubs steal Dem exit strategy, remove parts, and put their name on it

[RSchewe]

The plagiarized the Democratic plan.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/11/15/13538/466

http://nitpicker.blogspot.com/2005/11/remember-call-for-democratic-plan.html

Frist is trying to cut the Dems off at the pass. The Dems better call them on this on the floor. This is ridiculous.

[Horse with no Name]

1. That's why they have been goading the Dems to come up with one

Stealing and pillaging is all they know.
They don't have an unplagiarized thought in their idiot brains.

[katmondoo]

2. They did as much as possible

[KingFlorez]

3. That is outrageous

I hope the Democrats don't plan on letting them get away with this

[oc2002]

4. saw that on cspan, the dems are outraged,.but nothing that they can do.

Republican prove that they are weasels.

[zbdent]

5. If they're trying to shoot down Sherrod Brown because of "plagiarizing"

a blogger who agrees with Brown, then the Repukes should rightfully be attacked for stealing and plagiarizing . . .

[Loonman]

6. Well, the GOP pretty much is a criminal enterprise

The only thing they don't run is whorehouses.

[WiseButAngrySara]

7. This party of "moral values" is destroying this country with the utter

lack of anything that even resembles 'morality!' They have to be voted OUT of office. National attention needs to be focused on the 2005 Ohio election, and then on 2004, and Diebold and ES &S need to be debunked!

[kevinmc]

8. Saw Harry Reid on C-SPAN........

He did all he could too show the Republicans are being led by the Dem's on this. Not being the Party in Power he did a good job. If we didn't have BACK STABBERS LIKE LIEBERMAN we would be better off.

Anyway, I think Reid did Great.

[Skidmore]

11. Who would you lay odds on appearing on the teevee

talk shows tonite for interviews--Reid or Lieberman? Bet we see Joe whining away on Hardball for beginners.

[RSchewe]

9. People actually believe that the Repubs came out with a plan themselves...

They basically hijacked the Dem plan. They have been trying to beat Dems to the punch by preemting their plans and it is getting me annoyed.

The Republicans are either getting Dems like Levin to support their ammendments or they are copying what Dems are already doing.

[peacetalksforall]

10. Did you hear the hammering Dean got this past Sunday when

he was pressured for the details of the Dems general plan for the country. Dean wouldn't spill, just as Kerry didn't = for just this reason. They will politicize it by theft or by attack and ridicule.

imo Don't give then any details until the time is right - it means having an excellent set of keywords and anecdotes or whatever, but NO details.

[RSchewe]

12. Yeah, it looks like a tricky balance. Tough decision. n/t

[Clark2008]

13. Was this the proposal that Wes Clark worked with Nancy Pelosi

on?

I know he was on the Hill meeting with the Dems about such things.

I had a sinking feeling listening to that asshole Frist on NBC this morning that this was going to happen.

[kentuck]

14. Please don't throw me in that briar patch... ?

This time next year, or just before the election, they can tell their voters that they are getting out of Iraq, but they are not going to "cut and run" like the Democrats wanted. That's their campaign excuse. That's what this vote was all about.

[RSchewe]

15. This is why the right wingers want to see the Dem plan so bad, to steal it

These people have no shame. Talk about no ideas. Not only do they have no ideas, but they steal them.

[SeveneightyWhoa]

16. The Republicans are the Party of Ideas!

Stolen ones, perhaps?

Nonetheless, expect the "Democrats have no ideas/solutions/policies" talking point to continue, unchallenged (and even propagated) by the media.

[adarling]

17. Levin and Reid called his ass out on it

What a bunch of crooks. They are trying anyway possible to look like they aren't a bunch of fuck ups.

[alkaline9]

18. I don't know much about the plan being stolen, but isn't it good...

...that they are actually making an exit plan??? I mean aren't the lawmakers doing the right thing in the end? Yes repukes are criminals... yes they would LOVE to take credit where it certainly is not due... but in the end isn't it just good to HAVE an exit strategy? And if the dems were the ones who drew up most of it, then isn't it mainly a solid plan?

I mean, isn't this how the senate works? Someone draws up a plan and then modifications happen until it's agreeable by all?

Maybe I'm being too naive ...

[kentuck]

21. They have no exit plan ?

Only the Democrats had the exit plan...The Repubs said an exit plan was "cut and run"...

[alkaline9]

22. i understand that they have flip-flopped, but isn't an exit plan GOOD?

... regardless who's name is on it? I mean for months we have been crying that the repukes have no exit plan and that they would consider any withdrawal to be a "cut and run"... so isn't this actually in our best interests? (even if there is some plagiarizing)

[Skidmore]

19. Warner up trying to explain why his amendment was

plagiarized.

[harlinchi]

20. Like the looters in a bad Ayn Rand adaptation, the 'in-charge' GOP...

has no idea how to fix the problems they've caused. Like Thompson and Taggart, republicans seek a Galt-like Democratic plan to repair the country's Iraq-based errors.

Of course, in reality, our GOP had to first castigate that plan. They asserted through the media that the Democrats have no plan for Iraq except cut and run. Notwithstanding the fact that their characterization of a withdrawal plan as 'cut and run' was splashed in our faces by that media, withdrawal as a option was being discussed by Democrats and vilified by republicans. The GOP promptly told Americans that such discussion sends the wrong message to the troops and to the enemy. They said a time line for the removal of US troops would provide a target date to the enemy where they could say, "Just get to their withdrawal date and Iraq will be ours!"

Now Frist comes out with a potential withdrawal plan. Doing so out of a conviction that the proposed withdrawal is the best policy for the country would be one thing but to flip-flop on so serious an issue for partisan political purposes not only endangers our troops and the country but reveals their lack of character, as if that needed more revealing. Watching the party in power flip-flop in response to the polls and to the recent election results on an issue of such monumental substance (2065 American lives lost with who knows how many Iraqis dead and $300 billion spent) must give great comfort to our enemies and aid all of those who oppose our forces.

Has anyone called or will anyone call him on the earlier GOP comments suggesting that the withdrawal option would bring about the end of civilization as we know it?

(Posted in another thread earlier.)