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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 08:23 AM
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Do you think Joe Wilson will live until "the leak" investigation is over?
After yesterday's LBN article and the pdf files about Joe Wilson and the info he will release, I truly fear for Joe Wilson and his family. Mark Fineman died. A lot of people have died over the years. I will no longer believe these coincidental deaths are "accidents". Do you think the CIA is just too big for these repukes to mess with? Do you think if anything happens to Joe Wilson the administration will rue the day? I honestly think they would get away with it and do as they have always done, call it an accident and just move on. I am afraid for Joe and his family. Are you?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 08:30 AM
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1. yes
he is too high-profile to rub out now
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 08:38 AM
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6. I think so too, but
because of the CIA's protection, not because of his profile.

American politics of the past 40 years is littered with much higher-profile corpses.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 08:30 AM
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2. Michael Moore, Greg Palast...
and dozens of others have lived to tell the tale.

Besides, you'd have to be pretty gutsy to even try and get the husband of a CIA operative killed. Payback might be a bitch.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 08:34 AM
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3. Where did the USA Wilson/pdf Story go? It it wasn't a hoax why isn't it
all over today? Not a peep.

It was in the "Gossip Column" of USA Today, so how do we know it wasn't a plant? If it was real it would be all over this a.m. I wanted to believe it was a "big deal" but has a feeling it wasn't. :-(
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darknemus Donating Member (330 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 08:36 AM
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5. Not USA Today
US News. Big difference there. And don't worry, the spread of these documents has just begun. I've said it over and over again - you don't mess with the CIA - they're more vicious than my ex-girlfriend, and that's saying alot.

-darknemus
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 09:27 AM
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8. Is there a link to the story,
I saw it mentioned yesterday but never ran across it?
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 09:32 AM
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9. link here
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/031020/whispers/20whisplead.htm

It's not a whole lot of stuff that's not been posted here before ... it just lists many lies about the "armed conflict" in Iraq and makes a good case (kinda poorly written) that there was a lot of organized deception going on before, during and after the "armed conflict"
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janekat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 09:40 AM
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10. I'm wondering if Wilson "planted" it there as an "insurance" policy
he wanted to get it out somewhere. It wasn't ready quite yet - but he wanted it to be out somewhere in public.

That way - if he turned up dead - thousands of people would have copies of the "raw" manuscript.

Bedard does do a lot of leaking for Rove but that doesn't mean that he is a Rove "minion." I'm beginning to think he is an "equal opportunity" leaker.

I have to admit though - I'm with you. Can't quite figure this whole thing out. Some very funny sh*t going on....

I'm going to send Bedard an e-mail. He tells people to e-mail him with any "scoops" and he'll print it. Will he answer me or print anything I send him? Probably not.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 08:34 AM
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4. Not necessarily
In order to believe that Joe Wilson's life or the lives of his family are in danger, you have to be a true believer in the theory that Bush and his operatives have, in fact, been responsiible for the deaths of all those who opposed them. While I will admit that there are lots of reasons to be suspicious, I can't yet bring myself to become a true believer in this/these theories.

I find it fascinating that Wislson is deliberately keeping himself and the investigation in the headlines as much as he is. I suspect this is for two reasons: first to keep Traitorgate from falling off the public's radar screen, and; second to keep a high public profile which, if there is even any suspicion that all mentioned in the first paragraph is true, then a high profile is an insurance policy.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 08:42 AM
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7. Going public increased his odds.
Too many people who have opposed the BFEE end up conveniently deceased. Think Danny Casolaro, James Hatfield, and Abbie Hoffman. These were "average" folks, without any real proponents in government. Even though they published (or tried) what they had on the Bush Organized Crime Family, they didn't have a public profile in that regard sufficient to overcome the Media Monopoly.

Ambassador Wilson and his wife have plenty of support in government. As you observed, in_cog_ni_to: What they needed was to build a public profile for protection. The fact they have a lot of friends in high places in government and the media only helps push their case and increase their odds of survi-, er, success.

Same goes for a lot of the FBI whistleblowers. Remember the agents in Chicago, Minneapolis, and Arizon who stepped forward to report how Washington HQ had stifled their terror funding and terror flight school investigations? Getting their mugs out there helps keep their wugs working.
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:56 AM
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11. Will his children live very long? Him? His wife?
More important things on Asscroft's plate. Watched Wilson give a speech this am on World Link TV - was made in August and it was all out there then and before.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 11:00 AM
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12. I think that's the reason he keeps a high public profile,
Edited on Wed Oct-15-03 11:01 AM by blm
to thwart any of his family from being "suicided, accidented, or disappeared" He knows how they work. Staying further in the public eye would make any harm look TOO suspicious for the White House.

If only Baxter had thought to do the same.
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