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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:48 AM
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What is feeding the insurgency is US detention, torture, and bombings.
I am sure of it. We kill hundreds every day claiming they are insurgents--they turn out to be civilian women and children. We detain thousands of innocents, mistreat and torture them, then release them and expect them to go home and become good Iraqi citizens. It is sheer madness. It has got to stop!
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:49 AM
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1. well i think Bush said it best "No one likes to be occupied, i don't"
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:55 AM
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2. In the circumstances the Iraqi people find themselves in
I would be an insurgent myself. So would most americans.
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prescole Donating Member (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:01 AM
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3. Ahmad Chalabi is saying the same thing--US forces are above the law
and that is helping the insurgents. Chalabi also notes that the US has agreements with most nations that regulate US troops--but there is no such agreement with Iraq. Go figure.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/chillin-with-chalabi-my_b_10651.html
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:01 AM
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4. They are becoming good Iraqui citizens
The good citizens of any country would resist any occupier/invader.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:14 AM
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5. The coming civil war
it was set to go anyway. Nothing the administration has done has been anything but make it worse. The mystery of the shift to Syria has a good explanation in that it has become a haven for the Iraqi Baathists with plenty of resources to return and support the experienced guerrilla fighters left behind. So it's looking more like the general principle behind the attack on Cambodia. Meanwhile, Iran, like Russia is becoming too big to handle or threaten with Bush tied down in his quagmire.

If there are any sane people in the Pentagon who can handcuff Rumsfeld who apparently has memory loss and dementia on past experience they must stop the two disastrous options facing the WH. Attack Syria and risk a second quagmire. Bomb, probably nuke Iran, to fulfill the magic pill wet dreams the extreme cons have had for a long time about the Final Solution to a losing conflict.

Of course the general staff faced worse in the Cuban Missile Crisis and tolerated more civilian control, but the sheer lack of necessity and the ruination of American interest and the decline of the military in toto are as stark as a mushroom cloud already. And now it is the political whack jobs who are frantic and unstable.

I consider a necessary solution would be to offer up, before asked, all the war criminals who are responsible for the death of interests for their own self-interest, above and against everything legal and moral that the nation stands for. As for whining about face and our standing in the world, that will have to change and earned back with something besides economic or atomic or protection racket blackmail.

The old ways of thinking about foreign policy, the moral equivocation of pragmatism, toughness and planning based on human weakness not strength are over unless the "wise" want to permanently reside in Lalaland an object of scorn and hate to the entire sane world. Someone following Kucinich's lead had better start making our policy enter the 21st Century.
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