will dubya 'Bounce Back' like some are suggesting?

[mopaul]

i can't see a scenario where he'd suddenly become popular and smart overnight, put the country and the war back on track and retire in glory and adoration, can you?

[Missy M]

1. I guess anything is possible. Right now the White House keeps...

insisting they don't go along with the polls and will continue their agenda, but the polls reflect what the citizens of this country want. Maybe if they start listening to the polls and the mood of the country he can "bounce back". His major problem is the war and there is no easy solution to the mess he has created so I doubt he can retire in glory and adoration.

[mopaul]

2. he'll never give up his precious war, so....

i guess we have nothing to say about it, he is his imperial highness and we is just bozos out here.

[Missy M]

10. I feel that most of our elected officials don't give a damn about...

what the people of this country have to say about anything. When you write to them about an issue they send back a letter saying "I hear you" and your view is important. The problem is they just go and do what they damn well please anyway. Maybe well all have to start getting more forceful and they will listen. I agree with you that Bush will never give up his precious war and will say he was right about it, no matter how many die for his folly.

[BulletproofLandshark]

3. No,but just wait until his approval jumps 2 or 3 points

The MSM will be working overtime to praise Bush for being such a strong resilient leader. This bunch have no loyalty to the truth, only to whichever way the wind blows at any given time. And the American people are their enablers.

[fasttense]

4. The problem with this bizarre idea that brush will magically

bounce back in the polls is that he has to do something right. His administration is so out of touch with the rest of humanity that doing something right is out of the question. Every level of the federal government is useless. They may want to do something right but when they get in to it, they screw it up. They are incapable of aligning themselves with the basic needs and concerns of everyday humanity. They are off in their own little world, out of touch with reality. Something good may happen (for example the end of the cold war for Raygun) to them but they will manage to screw it up.

In order to turn the polls around he will have to get in touch with the American people and brush and his administration are incapable of doing that.

[WePurrsevere]

5. I truly hope that the American people are smarter then that but then again

he's still President.

There is a part of me that wonders if they have had Bin Laden all along and they're just holding him until they need an Ace but I try to fight that off as a bit too tin foil hattish.

Sadly I've become increasingly cynical and a bit paranoid about a party I was brought up to at least semi-respect. (My father's now been an X-Rep since Reagan.)

[liberal N proud]

6. Not if we keep the pressure on!

Never let up, keep hitting his regime with the truth.

[mopaul]

7. the Truth is OUR Weapon of Mass Destruction

[lonestarnot]

22. Yeah truth is on and they can't take it. House of cards tumbling down

and unless they have a secret glue on those cards they've had it.

[Hubert Flottz]

8. Anything is possible in a shit-hole banana republic like the new...

GOPer USA. Votes don't count and your own fu?king TV lies to you like it hates you. You have to admit that at least half of the registered voters in America are totally STUPID, if you believe that bush is really our "elected president."

We are one "trifecta" away from the 90% approval mark that George reached in 2001. Nothing is too evil for the people running this country now to attempt, if it means three more years of skimming off the wealth of our country like Bush and friends have for the past 5 years.

[AtomicKitten]

9. Nope.

Too much shit stinking up the White House lawn. They can't shovel their way clear of this fast enough. The Republicans are on the tee-vee saying we went to war to remove Saddam Hussein, not for WMD, and my personal favorite, that the Intel Commissions both ALREADY determined that the White House did not manipulate intel. Crazy talk. I just don't think the majority of Americans are buying what these snake oil salesmen are selling anymore. Then there's that wicked dumb 35% that won't budge no matter what.

[laura888]

11. Possibly if there is a terrorist attack on U.S. soil

All that tough-talking swagger will appeal to a few more people then.

[Walt Starr]

12. It'll drop so long as they continue to chase a "bullhorn moment"

It's like some show salesman trying to recapture the moment from his high school football days where he won the big game.

[Walt Starr]

13. Delete

Double post

[benburch]

14. Afer he dies, maybe.

Only because people don't like speaking ill of the dead.

[madokie]

17. I'm unconfortable with wishing ill will on someone

but I have to make an exception this time. He'll not be lasting much longer in the Whitehouse so I wish him to live a long, long life. Many days, weeks, months and years to be tormented by his murderous and inhuman ways.

[Jacobin]

15. When he bombs Syria

He'll get a ten point bounce, which will then fade to oblivion after three months

[long_green]

31. if he attacks another country

he'll poll below 20 in six months.

[Cobalt Violet]

16. NO! It's time for people to start getting those heating bills.

My mother's heating bill use to be $127 month but she got one a few days ago for $300 (and that was for Oct. in a small house).

I'm sure she's not alone. This heating crisis is just starting to brew.

Will see how popular * is in Dec., Jan., Feb.

[LaurenG]

18. No, hang tight. I believe the stuff is just beginning to hit the fan

I can't see it happening. Reasonable people have seen the light and they won't get suckered in to his bologna anymore. The public is just beginning to see that this president is the one who started all of the attacks about partisanship and changing history. Unfortunately for him his words and deeds (and those of his administration) have been documented and they are all on record. He should probably start thinking about moving and storage companies. He'd be better off just coming clean than dragging the whole country through a re-hash of all his evil deeds.

[sendero]

19. He will bounce back a little..

... but he will not likely ever see 50% approval again. At least that is what my tea leaves say :)

[QC]

20. I don't think so, and here's why:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5347352

[TheCowsCameHome]

21. Nope.Too late. These clowns overplayed their cards.

You can only bluff so long.

[stanwyck]

36. this is what happens

when you're a closed administration. The Bushies are so insulated that they lost their mojo. They realized, like Daddy Bush, too late that they "overplayed". And now they're scrambling.
Daddy Bush had his re-eleciton locked. So, he quit paying attention. America moved on. He didn't. And Clinton danced in and took us home.
Dubya has been too "vetted"...in front of too many screened audiences. He's surrounded himself with "yes men/women".
And that's detrimental. It's disastrous.
and now it's too late.

23. the Christian Right has got what they want out of him

or as much as they are going to get. And they will drop him for other greener pastures. I think the people defending Bush are just afraid to admit they are wrong, and will go to their graves not admitting they were wrong, but they must feel inside, the turning of their loyalty away from him.

Sounds good to me.

This isn't love for Bush, it is solidarity on the right side, not giving in no matter what.

[mtnsnake]

24. I'm afraid so. They'll predictably drop gas prices drastically over the

next 9 months, promise more obscene tax breaks to Joe Sixpack, and the sheep will fall for it.

We have to be ready to counter anything he does, because one thing's for sure....he's desperate and he's gonna pull every trick in the book. This is one year that the Democrats just cannot sit back and watch. We have to take our OWN actions to win the voters over, instead of simply thinking the other side is going to completely bust.

[underpants]

27. Gas has dropped 85 cents in the last month here

Gee wonder how that happened?

[stanwyck]

34. the tax breaks would work, but

even Joe Sixpack has got to question where the money would come from...wouldn't he/she?
I know we know we're heading, as USA Today called it, toward a financial tsunami. But I just don't know how much this resonates with the average American.
Bush got a lot of mileage out of his last "rebate". Despite it being a con man's shell game.
It could work again.
Unless we're able to put the impending deficit disaster into terms that Joe Sixpack understands.

[ProfessorGAC]

25. No

The new "attack back" strategy isn't flying. The polls on the speech at the army base were dreadful. (38% believed that it wasn't his fault?) That's pretty bad.

They overreached badly, most of their plans have gone up in smoke, and other repukes are distancing themselves from the administration. There's nothing from which to bounce.
The Professor

[mopaul]

26. i hope you're right

truly

[ProfessorGAC]

28. Been Right Before!

Been wrong before too! Hopefully, i've been right more often.
The Professor

[mopaul]

29. bouceback kick

[Sir Jeffrey]

30. Things ** could do to bounce back...

Of course, before I get into this, he won't do ANY of these. Part of his problem is that his base is shrinking, and will continue to shrink. He needs to moderate his policies and proposals to win back swing voters. It is the only way his party can avoid a massive defeat next fall.

If he had half a brain, or an advisor worth a shit, he'd do these.

1. Rescind the tax cuts for the wealthy. Maybe keep the lower brackets as is. Declare a state of fiscal emergency and propose taxing rich folks (income greater than 250,000) at 45% over the next five years (sunset provisions aplenty). Use that money to avoid deep spending cuts on social programs.

2. Announce a drastic reduction in forces in Iraq (like to about 30% of current levels), effective after the December elections. He'd steal our thunder and look like a foresighted statesman.

3. Rescind Alito and nominate a moderate Roe supporter. It would be his Sista Souljah moment.

4. Fire Rove...he's useless now. Bush isn't running anymore. Threaten to fire anyone else involved in the Plame leak, including Cheney.

5. Fire Cheney anyway. Name Giuliani or McCain as the new VP.

6. Accept the torture ban. Have a massive signing party. Do the torture anyway on the down low. Nobody'd find out.

7. Propose single payer health care, which would help him reclaim the compassionate conservative label. It would never get passed with the Republicans in charge, but ** would look good proposing it.

8. Lead an actual investigation into Halliburton's no bid treachery. Whisper to friendly reporters that Cheney was responsible for the Halliburton giveaways, which was the actual reason Bush fired him (not the CIA leak case). The die-hards would eat it up, since Cheney is more hated than OJ Simpson now. As a bonus, he could fine the hell out of Halliburton and use that money to give a pay raise to soldiers.

All of these things I named would involve showing some sense of accepting an error and attempting a fix. I'm sure there are many other things he could do, but he's too much of a misanthrope to try any of them. He's a bullheaded selfish prick who has never been wrong about anything. He'll probably sink to 28-29% and stay there,with an occasional bounce up into the low 30's. He will be the most hated president in US history when he retires.

[stanwyck]

35. Would you be our new president?

and do all of the above...immediately?

[tjwash]

32. Yeah. He could if he...

...came out and said he was mislead by Cheney and then fired him, Rumsfeld, Rice, and the rest of that corrupt miserable staff of his.

And then hunkered down in his bunker and put a bullet in his own head. That might be good for a 5 point bounce.

[deutsey]

33. What do they call it...a "dead cat bounce"?

That's the only bounce I can see happening, but I suppose Bush Inc. could still have an ace up its sleeve.

[SammyWinstonJack]

37. I wish he'd bounce back, all the way back to his pig farm and out our

hair. Smart and popular overnight? I can't see that happening either, especially the latter. :rofl: