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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:27 PM
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Whenever you hear the phrase "Aid & Comfort to the Enemy" pay attention:
Edited on Mon Nov-14-05 11:47 PM by rucky
very closely. This isn't just one of those mindless spoutings, this is very deliberate legal jargon.

We've sort of seen the clampdown brewing for some time now - or at least the possibility that opponents of Bush-fascism would be blacklisted, rounded up, and god-knows-what then.

The RW media loudmouths use this phrase loosely, but the politicos have been a bit more prudent with it. This is the exact wording in the legal definition of treason. The one that would and could be applied most widely, because it's so darn vague about how "aid and comfort" can be interpreted.

I'm thinking that the original intent of that loaded phrase was to prevent individuals from giving direct aid ($) and comfort (beats me what that could reasonably be without challenging the 1st Amendment). Of course leaving it vague leaves it open for the fascist powers that be to define it as it suits them best.

George Bush used that phrase today and it sent shivers down my spine. You take subtext of that message - which was sent to critics of the war (a majority of the US population). Maybe the latest shot across the bow was aimed at Democratic Senators, but we're seeing the rhetoric get harsher and more pointed.

Let's see who they make an example out of by throwing down a bogus indictment for giving "aid and comfort". I'll take that prediction to the bank.

-Peace
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:32 PM
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1. If giving aid and comfort to the enemy is treason
then those who invaded Iraq based on lies, are the guilty ones. Nothing gave more aid and comfort to terrorists, than this war.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:36 PM
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2. Well they ought to start with O'Reilly
for inviting terrorists to strike San Francisco!
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ken_g Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:38 PM
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3. I hope you're wrong, but I think there is much to what
you've written.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:40 PM
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4. It is part of a pattern, and fits very well with
National Interest letters and the expansion of FISA to cover US Citizens, even if some believe that is tin foil nuttery (yes you know who you are)
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:43 PM
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5. I think people helping this administration are
giving "aid and comfort to the enemy" of the people. A treasonable offense IMO.

Gyre
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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:43 PM
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6. Well, I still consider it "aid and comfort," when they shuttled
Bin Laden's relatives out of this country after 9/11.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:47 PM
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7. I think it's too late.
Their timoing sucks. They should have played that card a year ago when they still had the majority. Now that the truth is getting out about their manipulation of the facts and that a majority has turned against them, this is only going to further erode their credibility. No American likes to be called treasonous when they know they speak the truth.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:53 PM
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10. They needed a reason to federalize the National Guard first.
Katrina did just that.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:33 AM
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14. But do they have the moral authority to use them against the
American people? If they make a move to suppress the American people, I think the game is over. That 35% approval rating goes to <10%. Impeachment happens because the Republican Congress won't be able to show their faces in their State. That'll jumpstart the revolution....

I really think the Democrats wrecked their plan when they voted for the IWR....I think they were expecting to see all Democrats line up on the "no' side and then another 9/11 event would happen which would be blamed on the Iraqi's anyway. The big bennie would have been accusing the Democrats of being 'Saddam appeasers, the party that supports terrorists, the Party of Treason, etc. Big Corporate media would have fallen right in line on that, too. We'd still have gone to war, but we'd be living in a total one-Party State today.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:51 PM
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8. The first time 'aid and comfort to the enemy' ...
... came to my mind was on September 12, 2001, when Jerry Falwell told his audience that terrorists were not to blame for the attacks the previous day, but the abortion-providers, the homosexuals, etc.

What greater 'and and comfort' could he have given than to tell the listening public that the actual attackers were not to blame -- but that their fellow Americans were?

Treason, clear and simple. I thought he should have been led off in handcuffs that very night -- and I still do!
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:53 PM
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11. Aid and comfort
By neglecting to pay attention to the CIA when it warned of an alQueada attack, the administration indeed did give aid and comfort to the hijackers. We already have a truly guilty party.

If * is throwing out phrases such as you say, it tells me they are really getting desperate and we all better be ready to duck.

Who will they trump up charges on? A writer, I imagine, would be the first. Some obscure internet blogger, perhaps? Would they even tell the press? Is DU about to lose somebody? Stay tuned!
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:08 AM
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12. George Bush's actions give aid and comfort to the enemy
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:11 AM
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13. Prescott Bush aided Adolf Hitler.....Poppy Bush in Oct.1980
aided the Iranians.Dimson was aided by the Bin-ladens and he calls
me (us Dems)unpatriotic treasous Americans because he lied the nation into a lying war in Iraq.Hell I supported the hunt for Osama Bin Laden
as did 90% of the country but no scumbag bush allowed osama to escape
Tora Bora in Dec.01'.
Fortunately for the Bush Crime Family they can still fool some of the people all of the time but those numbers are dwindling.
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