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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 10:16 PM
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How to contact Ed Schultz about his spin on Dean's fundraising.
I don't listen anymore, but I understand he was using the talking points from the WP article. He must not have done his own research. I put together some Kos and Media Matters talking points for those of you who listened. He did this in June as well, and I contacted him then to no avail.

I don't think we should let our "liberal" hosts on radio get away with not telling the truth. While Ed was doing this...Randi was proudly quoting Dean from MTP. Such a difference.

Here is the DailyKos diary by Kos debunking the stuff Ed Schultz said today
about Howard Dean's fundraising.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/11/14/125530/33
Kos points out Dean is ahead of previous years, even after the stunning
losses of last year. And the money left in the states has not counted
toward it. Good diary.

MORE
And this is from June at Media Matters. They attacked Dean then for
fundraising and he was ahead then as well. Schultz went after Dean in June
as well. He heard from a lot of us, but he did not care.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200506170001

Dean fund-raising lie persists among conservatives

"The conservative media continues to falsely assert that Democratic National
Committee (DNC) chairman Howard Dean is an ineffective fund-raiser. In the
past week, Weekly Standard executive editor Fred Barnes, New York Post
columnist John Podhoretz, and Washington Times chief political correspondent
Donald Lambro all cast Dean as a fund-raising failure. In fact, when
compared with fund-raising in the most recent non-election year, Dean has
raised more money in raw dollars, and more in comparison to the Republican
National Committee (RNC), than did his predecessor.

As Media Matters for America has documented (here, here, and here), Dean
raised $14.8 million between February and April 2005, versus $8.5 million
raised by former DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe during the same time period in
2003. Dean has also raised more money than McAuliffe relative to RNC
fund-raising. The RNC raised $32.4 million between February and April 2005,
about 2.2 times the rate of the DNC; over the same period in 2003, the RNC's
$25.7 million was more than three times what the Democrats raised. An
article in the June 20 edition of Newsweek by chief political correspondent
Howard Fineman and national correspondent Tamara Lipper noted how Dean has
been effective at soliciting smaller donations:

Officials estimate that $12 million of the $14 million the Dean regime has
collected so far this year has come from those who gave less than $250. "For
people who really look hard at the numbers, he's wowing people," says Elaine
Kamarck, a respected DNC member."

Contact info for Ed Schultz, supposedly liberal radio.
To mail something to the show use the following address:
The Ed Schultz Show
1020 25th Street South
Fargo, ND 58103-2312


To contact the show's producer:
james@edschultzshow.com
701-200-9134

To contact the National Program Manager:
vern@edschultzshow.com
701-237-5346 ext. 2235


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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 10:23 PM
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1. He Has This Wierd Thing Against Dean
I've noticed it before -- when Dean called into his show he spent the whole time lecturing him on how he should have called his show before and how he shouldn't have called in on a cell phone. He acted today like Dean's was "unprepared" for Russert, he's just always got SOME problem, usually minor and he just gets on his case about it. Maybe Dean doesn't talk about BLECH Quail and Deer recipes enough. GOD, WITH CREAM SAUCE! Sorry -- not a big game eater.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 10:26 PM
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3. It may be coming from somewhere else.
I wonder if he is getting talking points from somewhere. He was meant to be main go to guy for the Democratic Party when he was launched by Democracy Radio. They were mostly Clinton people, not all, but mostly. I have wondered.

He most certainly has a thing about Dean.
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:13 AM
Response to Reply #3
17. He has a thing about Dean and about Hillary, as he calls her. Ed never
misses an opportunity to push Hillary for prez.
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:32 AM
Response to Reply #1
22. I don't like Dean either, because of this video
http://whitey.gnn.tv/blogs/1123/How_to_Hack_the_Vote

Just under How to hack the vote

Click on

(Video: Bev Harris shows Howard Dean how to hack the vote)

As long as Dean remains silent on about this video, I don't have any use for him either.



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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:51 AM
Response to Reply #22
25. It was on TV in primetime. How is that remaining silent.
Good grief.
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:22 AM
Response to Reply #25
29. You have got to be kidding!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:37 AM
Response to Reply #29
30. No, not kidding.
It was an excellent show on CNBC when he was hosting for Tina Brown.

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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 02:35 AM
Response to Reply #30
31. Dean should do a video
of how they are going to rig 2006,and then NEVER say another word about it, that will make me feel so much more secure that my vote will be counted. Thanks Dean you are such a strong leader????

Maybe they told him make a video about election rigging and then told him to SHUT UP about it ,AND HE PROMPTLY listened to them!

Lead me Dean lead me.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:38 PM
Response to Reply #31
47. Whatever..........
"Lead me", "Lead Me". What's your problem?
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:03 PM
Response to Reply #29
36. I saw it TWICE on TV and have a DVD burned of it. NT
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:40 AM
Response to Reply #22
33. Dean campaigned on the Wally O'Dell (We will deliver Ohio for Bush..) ltr.
When no other candidate would touch the issue... in 2003.

The MSM will marginalize ANYONE who challenges the machine totals IN A HEARTBEAT. Dean is doing the right thing by keeping his powder dry on this issue.

Please cut him some slack.


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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:50 PM
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37. Everyone needs to know
about the video, and not just the video a heck of a lot of people in our government know about the election theft machines, be it by reading a book, internet site or Deans video.

Its just hard for me to pick any one person from our government right now and pretend he is this big leader, when our election's are being counted in secret, our whole government, not just Dean are not leading as long as they remain silent on this issue (Dem's and Repugs) are guilty.

I just hope they have a plan going forward or they are just leading us to the next election theft. 35% republican approval, its time that the Dem's and any honest Repugs bring the issue to the front.

Not just to make accusations about the past election,but at the very least fix the future elections.

What the hell are they waiting for!

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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:04 PM
Response to Reply #37
40. Unfortunately, Bev Harris made herself radioactive
and that may be as much the problem as anything, other than the fact that he has his hands full actually doing the rest of his job.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:24 PM
Response to Reply #22
42. Do you think the head of the DNC screaming about
the Vote fraud issue my demotivate a lot of Democrats from voting? Just maybe?
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:29 PM
Response to Reply #1
46. Most republicans do.
Just saying.
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 10:23 PM
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2. I don't listen anymore neither, but
I'm thinking he is trying to be more center/right maybe so that he can be on armed forces radio. If that is his reasoning, I can understand it, maybe. I don't listen to him unless he is all that is on. I don't undertand where he is coming from.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:01 PM
Response to Reply #2
35. By that logic, he could still be honest and fair
and be center/right....unless being center right means not being honest. I don't listen, but I went through this with them in June. They are baiting him and us, and I resent their pandering to the armed forces and hurting the party and its chairman in the process.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 10:29 PM
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4. Pro-Hagel. Anti-Dean.
Go figure.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 10:34 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. Well, he was a Republican recently, wasn't he?
I think.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 10:35 PM
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6. Is today's date recent?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 10:54 PM
Response to Reply #6
10. That's funny. lol
About the truth, though.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:06 AM
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15. His true colors? I've always thought so...
Edited on Tue Nov-15-05 12:42 AM by LaPera
It shows with his callers...If one listens intently.

He's getting a huge financial ride on the progressives & liberals backs and hard work!

Fighting this bias corporate media.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:48 AM
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24. We MUST expose the slams against against Dean...Or would Terry McAuliffe
Edited on Tue Nov-15-05 01:06 AM by LaPera
(former DNC & DLC) be more to the liberals liking..Lot of donations and NO direction and McAuliffe always went along with the repugs setting the debate!!!

McAuliffe, didn't have a clue, and really, couldn't care less...As long as he got press and money...The Corporate Republicans have always had a 2 to 1 advantage in fundraising...they need it to offset their lies...

Dean, is real and great...We need him and his outspoken voice...Don't let the republicans, moderates and the DLC democrats force him out...That is their objective...and who would it help?

Not hard to imagine...
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:54 AM
Response to Reply #24
27. You are right.
Ed is as bad as the right wing hosts about Dean.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:20 AM
Response to Reply #5
19. I believe so
And than he switched. I don't know anything about his politics though. Just going by what others have said. :shrug: I have tried listening to him but he reminds me voice wise of Rush Limbaugh too much.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:52 PM
Response to Reply #4
38. Yeah I tuned out the second I heard that BS.
I think Ed is a wolf in sheeps clothing.

The more I listen to him, the more I get a feeling that he isn't really on our side.
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:48 PM
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48. Schultz has a boner for Hagel. I know Ed...I'm from Fargo...
I was really pissed when I heard him shilling for Hagel yesterday.

Keep in mind...those of us who know Ed...( I used to work for the same TV station...WDAY) know that he will change horses mid-stream.

It may sound trivial, but he used to be the biggest homer there was for NDSU. Until...he switched to broadcasting for UND..just up the road.

Small schools.....HUGE rivalry. He's flipped before...and I think he's about to flip again.

Like I said...it sounds trivial, but those of us who know him know that he is as loyal as sweaty dynamite.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 10:35 PM
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7. He likes most all Dems except Dean.
Let's do another DU lynching :eyes:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:38 AM
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34. It is not about "liking", it is about truth telling.
He claims he is trying to "hold his feet to the fire". That is what I was told in the emails in June when he spun about the fundraising.

He knows very well about the states getting money, he knows about it.

He also from March on was saying where the hell is Dean, why doesn't he get his head out of his ass...his words.

We sent him Dean's travel agenda, we got back....Big Eddie is trying to make Dean better.

When our so-called "liberal" radio guy is trying to hurt the party chairman, then we should be suspicious of the agenda. Especially when he won't say the truth.

He got his start with a group formed by Clinton's supporters called Democracy Radio. Maybe he just can not go for anything Dean does, even if it is working.

I will take up for any of our Democrats who are being treated unfairly. And Ed is being very unfair to Dean. He is being careful so he can be on armed forces radio.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 10:36 PM
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8. Recommended thanks. I turned him off when he started his bullshit.
I wish he'd stick to bitching about Bush.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 10:49 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. Yeah, someone should
tell him to leave one of our favorite Dems ALONE and stick to slamming the Villians!

See this, schultz..Quit spreading LIES about Dean..he's not the enemy!!

Get your FACTS Straight!
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:33 PM
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11. It's sounding more and more like Shultz is a Hillary supporting
DLCer.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:38 PM
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12. A couple of us just wrote his show with the info.
We told him since his show did not do their research, we would do it for them.

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:46 PM
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13. You go gurl !!!
:toast:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:00 AM
Response to Reply #13
14. We told them about how Newshounds does our Fox watching...
and we said we figured they needed a hand on research and truth. We said we would contact them with more facts when finished more of their research. So we research so they don't have to.

It is just plain insulting to have a talk radio host on our side who spews talking points.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:09 AM
Response to Reply #14
16. Awesome! Please let me know if I can help!
:hi:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:53 AM
Response to Reply #16
26. Well, just send the info I put in the OP.
Maybe if we all do it, they will pay attention. I doubt it though.

Eddie boy likes to think he is being a tough guy and holding Dean's feet to the fire.
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:16 AM
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18. Well done. Ed said he would be live blogging tonight. Did anyone
get in a word about his misinformation on that blog tonight?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:21 AM
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20. He could use MediaMatters
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:22 AM
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21. Another reason to listen to Schultz
Good job, Ed! :thumbsup:

Ed cuts through the crap. I am going to email him, and THANK him for telling the truth about Dean.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:40 AM
Response to Reply #21
23. Cute...
and a little much, don't you think? You would feel so much better inside if you let the dismal feelings out. Just take a deep breath...
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:00 AM
Response to Reply #21
28. Now I know how feel about Dem's, not much.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:25 PM
Response to Reply #28
43. I am a lifelong Democrat
Have NEVER voted for the Republicans since I could first vote 20 years ago.

It is PRECISELY my devotion to the Democrats and progressive principles that I do not support Dean.

Not liking Dean and supporting the Democratic party are not opposing values. :-)
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 02:48 AM
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32. I hate to say "I told ya so", but........
It's gonna be RNC/DLC talking shit about Dean all week long :puke:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 02:26 PM
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39. You think? lol
I have seen only one blogger come to his defense. Kos did, but he immediately put up another post so that would drop pretty quickly. I have not seen a single other blogger on our side say a word.

Yet the right wing is out in force bashing him for attacking the beloved president.

Our party can not stand up for each other, I fear. We are way too divided. The Clintons have their own little party, we are trying to have ours, and Ed Schultz is baiting us and baiting Howard Dean.

Can't imagine why?

And Kos is back at his Kerry bashing today, which I think is wrong. So, what good does it do to call ourselves Democrats if that is all we do.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:18 PM
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41. I saw someone at the blog say they called in today to the show.
Edited on Tue Nov-15-05 08:19 PM by madfloridian
They tried to defend Dean, but guessed they got cut off. Was it accidental? I did not and do not listen, just try to send him research to keep him honest.

Then I saw something at the blog that Ed said why didn't Dean talk about Kaine and red state wins on MTP? Well if that statement is true, then Big Eddie never saw the interview. Dean was gushing over Kaine.

What's going on here?

The motto of me a couple of friends:
We will be Big Eddie's Newshound...we will do research on Howard Dean so he won't have to do so.
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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:08 PM
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44. Schultz is DLC. Period, end of story
He has more access to the congress critters than anyone on AAR. He panders to the DLC for whom Dean is anathema. He may be a democrat (and I'm not really sure it's not an act), but he's not a Wellstone democrat for sure.

I don't really know if his show does harm or good, but he hates MoveOn and Dean. And he'll probably be coming to AAR soon with his buddy moving there.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:27 PM
Response to Reply #44
45. Ah, yes, his buddy Tom Athans, hubby of Stabenow.
I just hate a show that is supposedly for our side acting like that.
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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:03 PM
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49. I'm not sure what "our side" means anymore
My brother is a lifetime democrat, DC lawyer, DLC type of dem. We have many disagreements and the primary one has to do with the role of Corporations in our society. He represents some big ones, and knows good people who mean well in high positions. I have had many discussions about the problem with corporate personhood and the fact that corporations via their lobbying money have far more access to politicians than ordinary citizens. He can't see the problem. Corporate consolidation used to be called monopoly, but now irt is accepted practice, the survival of the fittest if you will. But that buys access and is killing unions, pensions, overtime, hourly wages, outsourcing and tax breaks.

What was the last law passed by congress that actually helps the average citizen?

Fuck Ed Schultz and his corporate cronies.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:16 PM
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50. When DID being a monopoly become ok again.
I thought we passed laws, and suddenly I realized there were not any laws anymore.

You are right, I don't know what "our side" means either. It could be anything anymore. I know what you are saying.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 01:26 AM
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51. A wee bit of success here, but still not confident yet.
A few of us wrote and sent Big Eddie's producers some research, since they don't do it.

Tonight at the blog as well, a person who got cut off when trying to defend Dean got an email from the staff. They said the cut off was not intentional, and they set up at time for Ed to interview her.

I got a response or two from my stuff I sent them, like thanks but we're fine kind of thing.

So let's see how they interview her. Ed said Dean did not talk much on MTP about the red states, and that is not true. We sent him the MTP transcipt. He said he not doing well at fundraising, we sent facts.

So we will see. Today again he apparently said "isn't anyone in charge over there at the DNC, saying someone with authority needed to look into something.

I don't blame Dean for not going on the show more often, not the way Ed talks about him. This is a serious situation to me. He is going on armed forces radio dissing the Democratic Party chair, and I don't think that is a good thing at all.
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