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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:07 AM
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Are you going to see "Brokeback Mountain"?
It looks very interesting and thought provoking. It'll probably push the comfort limits of a lot of people, but hopefully for the positive.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:08 AM
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1. Yup... the story is based on is very good
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:08 AM
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2. What's it about?
nt
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:09 AM
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3. 2 homosexual cowboys in 1960s Wyoming
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UDenver20 Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:13 AM
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10. Anyone else ever....
...conclude that the word "homosexual" is just too much work to say? Ho-mo-sex-u-al !!! That's FIVE syllables. FIVE!

Call me lazy, but I like to fall back to the simple "gay" or, for variety's sake, the abbreviated "'mo".

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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:44 AM
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20. Yes. It's annoying. Follows the Dr. Laura framing.
"Never say gay, because that denies the pathology. Say homosexual, because that's a correct description of thier biological error."

Ever notice that hate groups like Concerned Women for America (who's spokeswoman is a DUDE!) always put gay in quotes. Like "gay lobbyists", "gay civil unions", hate crime laws protecting sexual "orientation". The titles of their screeds are always using the clinical homosexual though. "Radical homosexual pressure groups try to equate deviant behavior with normal man and wife relationships in grade schools. Teaching children how to perform homosexual acts with workshops and labtime."

Homosexual is a term the right wing uses. I don't. 3 letters is easier to type than 10.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:46 AM
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21. Well excuuuuuuuse the shit out of me.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:49 AM
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24. You didn't know. Nothing to excuse.
Now you do. The day is worth it.:D :hi:
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UDenver20 Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:47 PM
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37. LOL
Dude... it was a joke... LOL...

No need to excuuuuuuuse the shit out of you....

:)
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:10 AM
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5. Set in the 60's, two men working on a ranch
Edited on Mon Nov-14-05 11:11 AM by ohio_liberal
One is a rodeo cowboy and one is a ranch hand, IIRC. They fall in love. Supposedly it has some sex scenes, kissing and all, that will make many a Fundie head explode.

edited to add that I will definitely go see it.
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:12 AM
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9. Here's the IMDB info
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:10 AM
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4. of course
I can't wait until it comes out
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UDenver20 Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:10 AM
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6. Heck yeah!
Jake Gyllenhaal is HOT!
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:11 AM
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7. So is Heath Ledger
:loveya:
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:12 AM
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8. I dunno...
I hate frontier style, cowboy, period pieces. Regardless, of the "interpersonal relationship" stuff they are playing this one as being about.

So probably not.

Now you put it in space, with a few alien zombies, throw in Gil Gerrard, now there's a movie!
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:18 AM
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11. It's so much more than that
Or just check out Annie Proulx's novel (by the same name) if you want to get the gist of what the movie might be.

I'm going for Heath Ledger - wow!
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:19 AM
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12. I'm with you. Can't stand "cowboy" anything.
I'd be pretty unlikely to see this movie regardless. The sexuality aspect doesn't bother me at all.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:19 AM
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13. The 1960s isn't exactly a frontier period piece, though...8-D
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 07:17 PM
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32. I was born in 1969
anything prior is a period piece.
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:19 AM
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15. I think it's 1963.
You know: lots of beer, tough talk, guns, pickemup trucks, domestic wives, and a few, er, male-to-male love scenes for good measure. In MONTANA and TEXAS too. Red red red fundie-land.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:19 AM
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14. heath ledger -- sigh
heath with jake -- deep sigh.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 12:07 PM
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28. I'm with you!
And I'm a woman. :D
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:21 AM
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16. Probably won't see it in the theater, but will when it comes out on DVD
And no, the pun in "comes out" on DVD was not intended. :)
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:47 AM
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22. Yes it was. Don't lie.
:evilgrin:
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:23 AM
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17. I've forgiven Ang Lee for 'Hulk' so definately! Have you seen Gohatto?
(aka Taboo) It's Nagisa Oshima's film about homosexuality in the samurai. It also stars 'Beat' Takeshi which can only be a good thing!
(I haven't, although I own it, but it has genrally garnished positive reviews)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0213682/

On the subject matter the director said:

"In the past, no one dared touch the subject of homosexuality whether it was latent or overt. It was censured. In my opinion, one cannot understand the world of the samurai without showing the fundamental homosexual aspect."

which is equally applicable to the world of the cowboy IMO.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:53 AM
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25. Is that the one where the pretty boy lobs off the head...
of another Samarai, for taking money from the villagers? At the end, commander (whatever his title) sliced off a whole tree with one swipe of his sword?

I didn't know Lee directed that. It was pretty good, but disturbing too. Everybody loved pretty boy, but he couldn't care less about any of these parasites.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:30 AM
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18. Is that the "gay cowboys eating pudding" movie?
That's all Hollywood makes these days.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:35 AM
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19. The presence of pudding is not yet confirmed.
It's just hellagay. ;)
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:48 AM
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23. If it's hot guys kissing, then yes.
;-)

No, but seriously, it does look pretty good.
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5X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:58 AM
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26. Everytime I see this title, I think "Bareback Mounain" n/t
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 12:14 PM
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30. Oh' that one will be out by XXX-Mas.
You just know it!:rofl:
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Canadian Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 12:01 PM
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27. I'll probably go
simply because it was filmed around here (Calgary) and I actually saw Jake & Heath at a bar d/t. Oh, and hot guys kissing.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 12:12 PM
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29. A snippet from Hollywood Reporter.
By Anne Thompson

LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - There's no doubt that a $13 million quality movie like Ang Lee's "Brokeback Mountain," which has wowed festivalgoers and reviewers in Telluride, Venice and Toronto, will play well in big movie markets around the country. The question is, how broad will it go?

No one knows that answer, because no one has ventured into this territory before. The movie is a groundbreaker. There's never been a homosexual cowboy movie, and while the indies have been supplying gay romances to the art house circuit for years, and gay series like "Queer as Folk" and "Will & Grace" have been pulling big numbers on TV, there hasn't been a mainstream gay love story since 1982's "Making Love," which bombed and was blamed by many for damaging Harry Hamlin's career. "It's the one last frontier," says Lee.

It's been 12 years since Jonathan Demme's "Philadelphia," which starred Denzel Washington as a homophobic lawyer defending AIDS patient Tom Hanks, who won the Oscar; the movie grossed $77 million in North America. But "Philadelphia" was less a romance (the gay couple didn't kiss) than a courtroom drama about fighting for justice. Last year's "Alexander" was an epic adventure with a gay subplot, but Oliver Stone's movie didn't disappoint at the box office just because of its candid depiction of a bisexual conqueror. It was a badly reviewed muddle of a movie.

In an industry that happily explores the outer limits of gore and violence, movies that smack of realistic intimacy are taboo -- especially between men. Gallup polls have shown Americans as growing increasingly tolerant of homosexuals, but movie audiences have never been confronted with a gay western. Conservative blogger Matt Drudge has already weighed in on "Brokeback Mountain," asking, "Will a movie even Madonna calls shocking sit with the heartland?"
...

More to the article. I Love how she describes Drudge as a conservative blogger (which is a good step), but not as a self loathing closet queen. I got this off of IMDB, but I think HR is a subscription site.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 12:42 PM
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31. Consider two of America's macho images...
The sailor and the mountainman.

Rugged individualism that every freeper can support. However, do we really believe these icons of American machismo didn't engage in some sort of liaisons with members of the same sex and rather preferred to wait until town or port to find companionship? After all, these were men who found themselves isolated with other men for months and years at a time. Perhaps such intimate encounters were not as big a deal then as they are nowadays...
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 07:21 PM
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33. yes
great story, and a nude jake can't-spell-his-last-name, what's not to like?
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 07:22 PM
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34. If it comes anywhere near me I intend to see it
I may even venture to Charolette though that would have to be part of a general trip to see Charolette.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 07:24 PM
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35. Can't wait.
I heard it is a very good movie. Well acted, directed, produced. OF course it's getting a lot of buzz because...shh!...it has two gay characters in it but they said it's a great story too!
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 07:27 PM
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36. Ang Lee is a heck of a director
The Wedding Banquet is a great film, technically foreign though filmed in NYC. Eat, Drink, Man, Woman and Crouching Tiger are both fine films as well. The Hulk, well everyone gets a clunker or two.
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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:56 PM
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38. Wish I could
Been waiting for this movie for a while. Love the idea of Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal being hot for eachother. In my mind they are both hot.. so why the hell not? I realize the plot is far deeper than this.. but it wouldn't take much to get me to see this movie

Problem is.. I live in BF egypt (not literally) and doubt I will be able to see this SCANDALOUS movie before it comes out on DVD.
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