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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 09:52 PM
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Anyone remember Bush I going to Spain (?) to collect military ballots?
During the 2000 debacle?

Didn't he go somewhere to bring back absentee military ballots?

Is my memory shot here or have we forgotten some additional problems with sElection 2000?
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 10:02 PM
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1. Anyone?
My "googling" ability isn't producing crap right now...
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dofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 11:20 PM
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2. I don't recall anything like that.
Absentee ballots that were postmarked after election day, or had no postmark at all, were counted, however, in clear contradiction of the law. But I'm pretty sure Bush didn't go to Spain to collect ballots.
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phoebe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 12:08 AM
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3. I don't remember Spain but Yemen figured prominently in 2000
Edited on Wed Oct-15-03 12:32 AM by phoebe
- rather interesting as election.com was initially tied to Saudi Arabia but it turned out to be Yemen..and of course, the USS Cole..
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 12:27 AM
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4. Bush and Schwarzkopf were over there somewhere...
...IIRC.

Here's something from Time Magazine, Nov. 27, 2000:

The key node is Baker to Cheney - the former Secretaries of State and Defense under President Bush, two men who fought the Gulf War together in 1991 and are fighting the Florida war together now. On the day after the election, Baker, who has been an occasional adviser to the son this year, was all set to go hunting in Spain with an eclectic group: Bush's father, the former President, along with Schwarzkopf, former Indiana basketball coach Bobby Knight and King Juan Carlos. Then Baker got a call from Bush campaign chairman Don Evans. "I hope you don't think this is a crazy idea," Evans said, "but would you be open to leading our Florida team?" Baker said sure. He's used to getting the we-need-you call from the Bushes, and though he expects no role in a possible Bush Administration, he's pleased to be helping. "Cheney and Baker are running this show," says an official. "They are making decisions and telling W., ŒThis is the deal.' I'm not saying it's bad. That's how Reagan did it."

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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 12:33 AM
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5. here's a real interesting article...
...but it doesn't specifically mention what you want to find.

http://www.njpcgreens.org/militaryrole.html
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:36 AM
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6. you might find it here
Edited on Wed Oct-15-03 01:37 AM by SoCalDem
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=overseas+florida+ballots+2000&btnG=Google+Search

salon :: :: politics :: feature :: Florida sent duplicate ballots ...
Florida sent duplicate ballots overseas Defense Department ... November 09, 2000 | At
least five Florida residents serving at a US Air Force base in ...
www.salon.com/politics/feature/2000/11/09/duplicate/ - Similar pages

Florida counties expect about 2,000 absentee ballots - November ...
... in ballots -- generic ballots that citizens can pick up at a US military base or
Embassy overseas. ... Across Florida, about 2,000 absentee ballots are still ...
www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/ 11/16/overseas.ballots/ - 41k - Cached - Similar pages

Overseas ballots trickle into Florida counties before Friday ...
... before Election Day to Florida voters living overseas. Requests for ballots were
almost evenly split between ... their request that the Florida Supreme Court rule ...
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Florida Long Count: Absentee Ballots
... Florida sent duplicate ballots overseas Carina Chocano, Salon, 09 November 2000;
Votes From Abroad Lead to Much Confusion and Inconsistency Among Counties ...
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Media Review of the Florida Ballots
... Study: 680 Overseas Ballots Improper Under Fla. ... Attorney for Media Discusses Legal
Battle for Access to Florida Ballots CNN transcript, 15 December 2000. ...
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Florida Attorney General's Fact Sheet Regarding Overseas Absentee ...
The Green Papers: News. Florida Attorney General's Fact Sheet Regarding
Overseas Absentee Ballots Tuesday, November 28, 2000. Florida ...
www.thegreenpapers.com/News/20001128-1.html - 10k - Cached - Similar pages

CBS News | Overseas Ballots: Advantage Bush | November 17, 2000 ...
... Overseas Ballots: Advantage Bush Nov. 17, 2000 Workers search through
Florida voter registration files as they verify absentee ballots. ...
www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/11/ 10/politics/main248594.shtml - 35k - Cached - Similar pages

Election 2000 | Many Overseas Ballots Rejected
... Nov 17, 2000 10:52 PM. ... a five-page letter to Democratic attorneys throughout Florida
giving them tips on how to lodge protests against overseas ballots. ...
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Election 2000 Index
... included 13 who claimed they voted four or more times.". Florida Law: Overseas
Absentee Ballots Let's just leave this here and see how certain ...
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Election 2000 - Our Political System Faces an Ultimate Challenge
... election officials disqualified approximately 1,400 absentee ballots. ... from US military
personnel working overseas. Florida election law requires all absentee ...
www.infoimagination.org/ps/election_2000/military.html - 6k - Cached - Similar pages

The GULLY | US | Election 2000: Florida Absentees: Birds in the ...
... NOVEMBER 13, 2000. As George W. Bush's skinny advantage in Florida continues to melt
away, overseas absentee ballots, which must be in by next Friday November ...
www.thegully.com/essays/america/ 001113absentee_ballots.html - 12k - Cached - Similar pages

Florida Rejects Many Overseas Absentee Ballots
Florida Rejects Many Overseas Absentee Ballots NewsMax.com Wires Saturday,
Nov. 18, 2000. MIAMI (UPI) – Florida elections officials ...
www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/ 2000/11/17/182608.shtml - 32k - Cached - Similar pages

Did illegally counted overseas absentee ballots decide the 2000 ...
Did illegally counted overseas absentee ballots decide the ... George W. Bush on election
day in Florida. ... his election day deficit with overseas absentee ballots ...
www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~kimai/ research/ballots.html - 4k - Cached - Similar pages

evote.com
MIAMI, Nov 16, 2000 (AP Online via COMTEX) -- Florida officials count more than
2,500 overseas absentee ballots on Friday, a mere handful of votes out of 6 ...
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Election 2000: Post office handling overseas absentee ballots ...
Tuesday, November 14, 2000. Post office handling overseas absentee ballots
with care in Florida. By Robin Benedick South Florida Sun-Sentinel (KRT). ...
www.abilene2000.com/elec/post1114.html - 30k - Cached - Similar pages

US presidential election, 2000 - Wikipedia
... The 2000 Presidential Election. ... Controversy in Florida. There were a number of overseas
ballots missing postmarks or filled out in such a way that they were ...
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Online NewsHour: Florida Ballots- November 9, 2000
... As the absentee ballots come back from overseas, they will be counted in each of
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www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/election/ july-dec00/ballots_11-9.html - 21k - Cached - Similar pages

Online NewsHour: Florida Recount- November 17, 2000
... It ordered Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris not to certify a final vote
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Election2000: Overseas ballots suddenly crucial
... nearly 6-million votes cast in Florida, they don't have the complete picture yet.
Less than 2,000 votes separate Bush and Gore, so overseas ballots could make ...
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... officials counted hundreds of disputed overseas ballots, which were ... to Bush's 537-vote
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:39 AM
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7. I never heard that...
and I really doubt a former President would be sent to do a courier's job.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 03:50 AM
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8. It was a "working holiday"
He supposedly went to Spain for the opening of a Spanish branch of the University of Texas M. D. Anderson Cancer Center.

http://quest.cjonline.com/stories/111400/gen_1114006843.shtml

One wonders, however, why he took General Schwarzkopf with him. I did, at the time.
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