Abizaid said today we're still at war!

[JaySherman]

What happened to mission accomplished?!

:wtf:

[Cha]

1. Damn right we're still at war! It just takes a General to see

what's going on! Not a fried politician.

[JaySherman]

2. Unbelievable!

Another outright of Shrub's lie contradicted. I heard this WABC's Bachelor & Alexander, just mentioned it offhandedly. That's two in as many days. Has media anywhere picked up on this yet?

[IndianaGreen]

3. He was right, the war is still going on!

The "shock and awe" phase is over, and now we are in the guerrilla aka low intensity phase, for the next 10 years or until the US troops are withdrawn, whichever comes first.

Writing about the Aghan-Soviet War, reknown Afghan expert and author Lester Grau described the challenge conventional armies face when confronting a determined indigenous guerrilla force:

A guerrilla war is not a war of technology versus peasantry. Rather, it is a contest of endurance and national will. The side with the greatest moral commitment (ideological, religious or patriotic) will hold the ground at the end of the conflict. Battlefield victory can be almost irrelevant, since victory is often determined by morale, obstinacy and survival.

The Soviet War in Afghanistan: History and harbinger of future war? (1996)
by
General (Ret) Mohammad Yahya Nawroz, Army of Afghanistan
& LTC (Ret) Lester W. Grau, U.S. Army

http://www.bdg.minsk.by/cegi/N2/Afg/Waraf.htm

[JaySherman]

5. I'm aware of this

I didn't think the war was over when our little tyrant did his photo-op in the aircraft carrier. I just can't believe no one is calling him on his lie.

[Cascadian]

4. What mission accomplished???

I guess Bush's little "Top Gun" meoment was just purely a publicity stunt. Did Bush mean the mission was to get us into a quagmire and take their oil and that he accomplished it?

I would say something but it is too vulgar even for DU.

John

[Cha]

6. Too vulgar even for us?

Must be bad! :D

[Cascadian]

7. Uh...yeah!

The more I think about it, the more I want to scream to the top of my lungs. I am listening to Mike Malloy right now which is probably contributing to my rage. :grr:

John

[Cha]

8. I love Mike Malloy! Shows you where I'm at!

He makes sense and he's funny and I never get tired of hearing him rant! He's keeping me sane as well as DU2 now! At least I can hear his voice!

[ProudGerman]

10. What Top Gun moment?

He was cargo. Then he played dress up. Someone else flew him there, someone else wrote the little speech. Hell, someone else probably tied his shoes.

All we need is someone to press the "Mission Accomplished" speech, specifically the "Major combat operations in Iraq have ended.....And now our coalition is engaged in securing and reconstructing that country." part. It would appear to me that the other side disagrees, ummmm, somewhat.

[gratuitous]

9. You mean he's contradicting his civilian superiors?

I wonder what his discipline will be? You know, like all those insubordinate soldiers who said they'd ask Rumsfeld for his resignation?