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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 01:12 AM
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Should the givers of charity be able to stipulate how it's spent?
Or is that unacceptable?

For example, should the US government be able to tell people on welfare not to buy alcohol with the money?

Or should the US government be able to dictate to recipients of foreign aid how they should spend the money?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 01:16 AM
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1. I have no problem with foodstamps only being for food.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 01:17 AM
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2. To the extent that it's enforceable -- why not?
The money has strings attached. You take it or leave it.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 01:20 AM
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4. Seems like there's a concern
about it being condescending.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 01:28 AM
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5. Condescending??
Jesus effing christ. Then they should be proud, and not take the goddamn money.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 01:45 AM
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7. I'm trying to see both sides
Both from the point of view of the giver and the reciever.
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 01:19 AM
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3. it's done all the time in private charity...
I can say exactly where I want my United Way donation to go.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 01:38 AM
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6. there is a difference between Charity and Assistance.. and a difference
between Assistance and supporting destructive behavior that created the need for the assistance in the first place.

as an alcoholic i can say alcohol is a monkey on your back that controls your entire life, life is dedicated to getting and staying 'drunk'.. or maintaining the preferred blood alcohol content... and providing the condiments of alcohol poisoning.. nicotine and caffeine.

is it possable..??? well you can give a drunk YOUR money till that is decided.

an attempt should be honestly be made considering a diverse range of treatment.. see what works in other countries.., there is an EXTREME lack of treatment centers today, even less since the Christians became experts on treatment.. we have one of the Faith Based Centers down the road, looks like the members are raking in the cash for the church.. built a real nice building and parking lot.. lots of real new shinny cars in front..

i was able to quit drinking using meditation. after 30 years of addiction. but providing free drugs for an addict with no treatment is just wrong some how for me... but you can spend 'your' money anyway you. want.. when id do give to charity i dont look back, i only give to groups i know dont waste it.. giving money to a drunk is a waste.

I believe you are referring to the USA pulling ALL the money from a country that doesn't have 'Just say NO' programs, or provides abortions.. and Family planning. the Arrogance of the USA Government is totally unbelievable. they have no idea of the conditions in those places.. first the giving to the governments is stupid without oversight, they steal it, it should go to NGO's with good reputations.

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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 01:48 AM
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8. I'm actually not referring to that
but it's a good example.

I was thinking of a discussion I had about the problem of giving aid to African and other nations who have extreme problems, but the money goes to the coffers of the dictators.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 03:05 PM
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9. i mentioned that variable..
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