The gloves are off !!! - NYT Lead Editorial

[kpete]

Editorial NYT
President Bush's Walkabout

After President Bush's disastrous visit to Latin America, it's unnerving to realize that his presidency still has more than three years to run. An administration with no agenda and no competence would be hard enough to live with on the domestic front. But the rest of the world simply can't afford an American government this bad for that long.

It's amazing to remember that when Mr. Bush first ran for president, he bragged about his understanding of Latin America, his ability to speak Spanish and his friendship with Mexico. But he also made fun of Al Gore for believing that nation-building was a job for the United States military.

NYT - The gloves are off.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/08/opinion/08tue1.html?ex=1132117200&en=f16faa4807ae97a7&ei=5070

[NNadir]

1. Gee, and this from the paper that uses a reporter with direct feeds from

Scooter Libby.

The "newspaper of record" is running scared for having had its prestige abused by the Bushies in such a facile manner.

History will not be kind to the New York Times in this era, no matter how hard it works to undo what it has done.

[zbdent]

8. Eww . . . "direct feeds" - after the revelation of Miller's relationship

with Libby - ugh . . . and I'm at work, so I can't shower . . .

[Straight Shooter]

2. What is also amazing to remember is the NYT has been kissing bush's a**

for the last 5 years.

"No agenda and no competence." They finally admit there is no competence in the bush administration.

[robbedvoter]

4. and leading the witchhunt against Clinton. Gloves? Knives in our backs.

Screw NYT!

[tanyev]

3. "his ability to speak Spanish"

I don't think "Buenos Nachos, heh, heh, heh" counts.

[central scrutinizer]

6. but his constant brush clearing

shows he is well acquainted with Mañuel Labór

[louis-t]

9. Yeah, and 'bony knees' to you too.

"Buenos Nachos" LOL

[waiting for hope]

10. Or this one

"Deseo una cerveza?"

[tanyev]

19. Now that's one topic where he probably is fluent.

In several languages.

[K8-EEE]

30. Donde Esta Mi Paxil?

LOL!! They did that one on Steph Miller

Grassy-ass por mi visito! Es necesario que ustedes reforme el economico. Ix-nay with the ooo-bays!

I think they are so funny on that show!

[Bill McBlueState]

14. yeah!

It's "Beavis and Butt-head" Spanish.

[Clark2008]

21. Corn-holio?

:rofl:

[AbbyR]

24. Well, we all know he can't speak English...

maybe that's because Spanish is his first language, perhaps? He probably does about as well with that as any other.

[madeline_con]

38. "... his understanding of Latin America ..."

He couldn't find it on a map!

[Wetzelbill]

41. LMAO

I swear I actually heard him say it when I read that. :rofl:

[meganmonkey]

5. Link please?

Thanks

[i_c_a_White_Ghost]

12. Here is the Article Word for Word

Editorial
President Bush's Walkabout



Published: November 8, 2005
After President Bush's disastrous visit to Latin America, it's unnerving to realize that his presidency still has more than three years to run. An administration with no agenda and no competence would be hard enough to live with on the domestic front. But the rest of the world simply can't afford an American government this bad for that long.

In Argentina, Mr. Bush, who prides himself on his ability to relate to world leaders face to face, could barely summon the energy to chat with the 33 other leaders there, almost all of whom would be considered friendly to the United States under normal circumstances. He and his delegation failed to get even a minimally face-saving outcome at the collapsed trade talks and allowed a loudmouthed opportunist like the president of Venezuela to steal the show.

It's amazing to remember that when Mr. Bush first ran for president, he bragged about his understanding of Latin America, his ability to speak Spanish and his friendship with Mexico. But he also made fun of Al Gore for believing that nation-building was a job for the United States military.

EDITED BY ADMIN: COPYRIGHT

[electropop]

18. Wow wow wow!

Wicked and well-written. Once the NYT has jumped off the Titanic, it's going down.

[EVDebs]

26. The Triumphal March of Conservatism ! Limping to the finish line...

[meganmonkey]

27. Thanks!

[RedEarth]

7. Here is a LINK

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/08/opinion/08tue1.html?hp=&pagewanted=print

[robbedvoter]

13. reagan's "own powers of leadership"? Mommy, the astrologer said...

NYT is still kissing GOP ass...

[Matariki]

16. yeah, no shit

as these sentences demonstate as well. yuck.

"Mr. Bush has never demonstrated the capacity for such a comeback. Nevertheless, every American has a stake in hoping that he can surprise us."

[TheCowsCameHome]

11. It would help if the poor bastard could even speak english

[the_real_38]

15. surprisingly blunt - they're trying to get back some ...

... post-Miller credibilty.

[stubtoe]

17. I guess we know the tide has turned

when the Times does a 180 like this. Wow.

[WiseButAngrySara]

20. There's another DU thread on this subject. See:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5294734

[Gregorian]

22. Can't we just build another White House?

One that sits next to the existing one. One that ecclipses 1600. Then they can just sit there and pretend that they're running the country. But the real president, the one who won the election, can start his job. While the kiddies who want to destroy the world, can sit in their phoney Mattel playhouse White House, and just act out their pretent roles as president and vice.

Well, it's a thought. How else do we end this?

[DaveT]

23. Not so fast.

Yes, the Times is definitely giving BushCo the business this season -- the general theme being incompetence.

But I do not believe that the New York Times is actually repenting of its sins. No, the Nixon two-step is at work -- first re-elect the bastard to keep control over politics, then dump the front man to make room for the next generation of reactionary "leadership."

We will get another Carter type interregnum -- maybe John Edwards; some poor schlump who will have to either:

"stay the course" in Iraq or turn that country over to "the terrorists";

raise taxes dramatically or let the country's financial condition go into an irreperable free fall.


Meanwhile, the price of fuel will continue to climb and the equity bubble will either burst or will have already burst.


I'm not just a gloom and doomer in general -- but I see the end of the American Empire coming and the system is almost certainly going to blame it on the Democrats. The NYTimes is just playing its continuing part in the drama -- building up the politicians and then tearing them down, helping to keep people from looking beyond the grinning personalities who have all that alleged power.

[BlueEyedSon]

25. Re Bush expertise: Brazil doesn't count, they speak Portuguese .... nt

[Lifelong Protester]

35. and of course...

who could forget his asking the president of Brazil if they had any blacks in that country...

[Vanje]

28. This. Is. Stunning.

nt

[Tom Joad]

29. For the NYT, the agenda is fine, but the implementer is incompetent

I suppose it works to our advantage for them to call him that.

However, any rational, humane voice would be calling not for Bush to move ahead, but to step down, or to be removed by impeachment or domestic revolt.

[EFerrari]

42. Right! He made the NYT look bad in Argentina

Bloody @ssholes.


:puke:

[WI_DEM]

31. bottom line, the administration now is identified as "incompetent"

[AuntiBush]

34. That's Putting It "Mildly..."

Worse ever, and I mean ever. We can't take 3 more days, much less years.

[Raster]

32. They can't be serious, right? Bold emphasis mine...

Mr. Bush cannot fire Mr. Cheney, but he could do what other presidents have done to vice presidents: keep him too busy attending funerals and acting as the chairman of studies to do more harm. Mr. Bush would still have to turn his administration around, but it would at least send a signal to the nation and the world that he was in charge, and the next three years might not be as dreadful as they threaten to be right now.

Obviously denial is still not just a river in Egypt. bush*, contrary to his personal fantasies, has NEVER been in charge. And ANYONE or ANYTHING that harbors any delusions about bush* being able to turn the worst presidency in US history "around" is living in a complete and total fantasy world. Shit in, shit out.

[Beam Me Up]

36. The United States of America has been without a President for 5 years.

That tells anyone with eyes to see quite a lot about the true state of our Democracy.

[Kurovski]

33. Self edit: point already made by raster.

[madeline_con]

37. My, but they've changed their tune....

Are they just going with what's hip at the moment, or are they sincere?

[Hekate]

39. As long as they remember it's Impeach Cheney First

Is the New York Times' long slide into shilling-for-the-Bush-admin-mediocrity finally reversing itself? We'll wait and see...

Hekate

[aaronbees]

40. The Times rats jump off the sinking ship...

Pretty scathing editorial, but the NY Times was complicit in the first five years of this disaster. And I imagine Bush's knowledge of Spanish isn't much beyond "Yo quiero Taco Bell."

[Crazy Guggenheim]

43. Snore .........

[nolabels]

44. Just one question, have they fired JUDY yet?

NYT :puke: