I guess we'll all just sit back & watch as they destroy America

[mopaul]

that seems to be the plan, just grab a front row seat and watch it all collapse asunder as if it were some movie being released. the total collapse and destruction of everything we hold dear, live on t.v., right before your seemingly impotent eyes.

torture, genocide, piracy, treason, corruption on a grand scale only cecil b. demille could capture, we all stand around grazing like wildebeasts while crocs and lions eat our children. we seem to be disconnected from reality, like our so called leaders. we seem to be drifting aimlessly, unable to change our fates like jelly fish.

we seem to be deliberately ignoring the destruction of our nation under our very eyes, without so much as a fight. i wonder why?

[Skidmore]

1. It seems that way, doesn't it?

Sometimes I think they'll have to catch Cheney with whips and chains torturing some bubba in bibbed overalls in the Oval Office or * doing lines of coke while giving the State of the Union address before the nation reacts. As much as I hate thinking this way, it is beginning to look like reinstatement of the draft wouldn't be a bad idea.

[ngGale]

2. Why? Good question...

my friend's won't even discuss it. That's why I'm up all night on the DU, they can't face reality. OTOH, I can't - not face it...
just pass the popcorn...:popcorn: :cry:

double negative?...!

[texpatriot2004]

3. I have that same problem nm

[Swamp Rat]

4. Xanax, Zoloft... just ask Prozac Pickles.

Americans might be numbing themselves with chemicals, designer drugs... I never took the stuff myself, so I don't know what I am talking about. :D

The bull shit of which you speak is enough to drive a person completely insane ... that is, the kind of person who is pro-peace and love, and all dat.

[mopaul]

5. zac and jack for me

prozac with a jack daniels back on the rocks.

don't ya love that look in her eyes? she's not afraid, why should I be?

[Skidmore]

7. It's our sanitized, insular, risk-averse, happy talk culture.

What's the biggest whine you hear from the administration? "But you don't talk about the happy stuff?"

At home, we're obsessed with navel gazing. Scratching and clawing to make our ways into McMansions as fully automated as possible so we don't have to ruin our manicures. Time off spent at the golf course and on cruises. Preoccupied with sexuality and questions of sexuality when we're not preoccupied with pursuit of wealth and acquiring the lifestyles of the rich and famous.

I heard Phil Donahue refer to a stat that only 2% of the American population is sacrificing in this war--family member or self engaged in combat. What does that say?

In some ways, we are deserving of the government we have because we neglected to be stewards of our citizenship for so long.

[drduffy]

6. I see it in my relatives....

perhaps part of it is there is so much f**king up all over the spectrum that it is hard to know what to do and which worry should be on top.

[democrank]

8. Stop talking like this.

It interferes with my Disney World trip plans, plus my president says we don`t torture and I know he wouldn`t lie.

[cassiepriam]

9. Yes feels like Nazi Germany self destructing.

And nothing we can do about it.

[mcscajun]

10. Well, let's see now...I'll make a list.

Celebrity-drunk culture
Reality TV
MTV-style attention spans
"All politicians are crooks; they're all the same. I don't trust any of them. Why bother voting? Nothing changes."
Corporate Media
Sub-item under Corporate Media: tragedy/disaster/missing white woman of the week
Sub-item under Corporate Media: FOX News in nearly every public place that's got a TV
The decline of reading in America
"...catapulting the propaganda."
Short-term personal economic survival before macroeconomic survival
Civics class has gone MIA
Xanax, Viagra, Ambien, that little purple pill (Nexium)
"Well, at least gays can't marry."

I'm sure I've left a few items out...but that nearly covers it.

[ComerPerro]

12. That fourth reason you stated is the biggie

"All politicians are corrupt"...

When Clinton got busted for the Monica affair, people were outraged. Upset. Angry.

Then Bush came along and promised to "restore honor and dignity" blah blah blah.

But now, when he commits crime after crime and has scandal after scandal, suddenly the prevailing public discourse becomes, "Well, that's politics for ya. All politicians are like this. It doesn't matter who you vote for, they are all corrupt. May as well keep the liar we have now."

[donsu]

17. reality TV doesn't belong on the list

reality TV is very informing

[mcscajun]

20. Informing?

I'm talking 'bout shows like Survivor, Fear Factor, The Apprentice, The Real World, American Idol, The Bachelor, The Biggest Loser, Temptation Island, Wife Swap, and their ilk.

I'm not talking about educational and truly informative shows like those that appear on National Geographic channel, and the various incarnations of the Discovery channel; those are informative. I don't group them in with "Reality TV".

I stand by my original list.

[donsu]

21. those shows you have listed are very revealing on many levels

that doesn't mean you have to watch the ones you don't like.

[tabasco]

11. Do the corporate overlords have the capability to avert disaster?

It seems their greed is unrestrained.

I foresee a massive economic and social collapse - another Depression.

We already have a bloody war for corporate profits.

If a depression results in an end to corporate control of our government, it will be a good thing.

[lonestarnot]

13. And what mopaul, do you suggest we do?

[baby_mouse]

14. Why? Well...

It's because the alternative is to form an army and kill those responsible, because that's the only thing that's going to stop them. Unfortunately, they have all the guns, so that's not going to work either.

[EstimatedProphet]

19. They don't have all the guns

I do believe that a large proportion of the enlisted part of the army is liberal, and might not swallow the corporate lies if it comes down to it.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

15. I happen to think I'm fighting.

I happen to think others are fighting, too. I happen to think that someday the Dems WILL stand up and fight.

[Norquist Nemesis]

16. Phil Donahue: "The American people are mute"

Watched a piece on CSPAN2 last night that was a re-run of a presentation at Stony Brook. It was Phil Donohue and Michael Ratner. If you get a chance, try to catch it.

What you're saying is exactly what Donohue was saying. He listed several specific incidents/events and ended each with "Meanwhile, the American people are mute."

[Protagoras]

18. Just repeating history

this is how all Empires are supposed to come to an end. Maybe it's a genetic thing in the species?