Your prediction -- how will the unrest in France play out?

[skooooo]

Pick the answer which corresponds best to your opinion of the situation with the rioting youths in France...

[acmejack]

1. This is not occurring in a vacuum, outside factors influence the outcome

The nature of the Government's response will be the deciding factor.

[goclark]

2. And tourist will be afraid to go to those countries

Sad but true.

I love Paris, but I would think twice about going right now.

[MojoXN]

3. As my Chinese history professor, D. Art Barbeau used to say,

"Governments don't negotiate with young people (especially students). Never have, never will."

Keep that in mind over the coming days. Tiananmen v 2.0, anyone? No, that's a little extreme. Kent State v 2.0, anyone?

MojoXN

[Yupster]

4. It will die out for no reason

However, there will be many lessons learned. This was an important event. Anti-government groups have seen how easy it is to throw the nation into uproar.

[Renew Deal]

5. Why doesn't France crack down?

They are supposed to be one of the most powerful nations in the world. Where is the French military? Aren't they allowed to use them? I don't understand why this has lasted so long.

[skooooo]

6. As I understand...

...these are not "traditional" riots where large groups of people band together to create havoc. The youths are playing 'hit and run' and are not getting into direct confrontation with police, so there's little they can do but react to the acts of arson and vandalism.

[Syncronaut Seven]

8. Thats why I think they will go on

Young people are smart, passionate and adaptable. And apparently, they've had enough.

My prediction? We'll see this in several major US cities by the end of next summer. LA's gonna be rough, probably Houston, maybe Chicago and Detroit. Ohio? only if they want the vote back.

I think New Yorkers have become a more cohesive group, They won't riot, they will arm and fan out.

[Renew Deal]

9. That sounds like the Iraq model.

If nothing else, the Iraq war has taught a lot of people how to cause a lot of trouble.

[smirkymonkey]

12. Also they are trashing thier OWN neighborhoods - as soon

as they start in on exclusive, white French neighborhoods, watch the government pull out the big guns.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

7. I predict culture wars

that won't end and will spread throughout Europe. My husband is from Germany and you can't overestimate the negativity there regarding the Turks and other Muslims.

This is an issue that has to be addressed and it is going to be difficult if it is really true that Europe is rapidly becoming Eurabia. At some point the native Europeans are going to rise up and we know what they are capable of. I don't know how much of that concept is hype, however. To hear some people talk all European Muslims are after world domination and a global caliphate. I just don't know whether that is true or not. I hope not because I don't want to be around for another run of the Crusades, this time nuclear.

[bobbieinok]

13. late 90s ATC report on France on NPR said Islam = #2 religion in France

#1 Roman Catholic

#2 Islam

#3 Protestant

they also reported that France has EXTREMELY strong separation of church and state laws (MUCH stronger than anything US has ever considered) and that Muslims do NOT understand this separation; therefore there are many points of cultural/religious conflict

[StellaBlue]

16. see my take as a former UK resident of four years here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5284301

[William769]

10. This will die out soon, rioters will get bored or lose interest.

[Monkey see Monkey Do]

11. My biggest fear

is that it will embolden the far-right parties who are already starting to yell "we told you so" about immigration & multiculturalism. For example, the BNP (British National (Nazi) Party):

"It is becoming increasingly obvious to all indigenous Europeans that the multi-cultural experiment, forced upon almost every western European country in the past 40 years has well and truly failed, and all those European nations which contain a potential fifth-column of inassimilable Muslim and African immigrants, from the UK to Italy, Spain to Sweden must question just how those in charge of law enforcement are today prepared to deal with a similar situation across towns and cities in their respective nations."

Le Pen's been busy trying to position himself as the voice of reason, with his calls for a hard-line military crackdown in the ghettos.

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Also, Doug Ireland's latest article is worth reading:

http://direland.typepad.com/direland/

[bobbieinok]

15. talked to students from Norway + was surprised at the antiMuslim

views they reported and/or held

their argument: Norway has a certain culture and immigrants should conform to that culture and not attemt to impose theirs

[skooooo]

18. many Germans feel the same way...

There are some definite tensions....

[StellaBlue]

17. This frightens me, too...

and where does it leave us concerned, but liberal, people? The ones who could never vote for Le Pen but are also increasingly dismayed by the self-annihilation of European culture and values?

[951-Riverside]

14. Rioters are bored anyway that is why they are rioting to begin with....

Also It hasnt really spread out of the areas it began in I doubt it will spread anywhere else.