Iraq veterans at high school near me using BS propaganda on the kids

[NNN0LHI]

http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dsnews/053nd4.htm

Veterans share military experiences with Argo students

<snip>"We've lost a lot of good soldiers," he said. "We lost some 6,000 Americans in 35 minutes on Sept. 11.

"We're fighting the war on terror on their turf," Metcalf said. "In the last four years since 9-11 there have been no terrorist attacks here."

Argo students were moved by the veterans' experiences.

"I can't believe people would actually die so people they don't even know can be safe," said Beatriz Parra, a 16-year-old junior from Summit, who isn't related to veteran Bill Parra. "That's a true patriot."

I was in high school '69 to '73 and we had this same thing done to us with one big difference. We had returning vets from Vietnam giving us both sides of that conflict. Not just the BS talking points these guys are passing around to brainwash these kids. I advise you as parents to make sure your children are getting both sides. Thats our jobs as parents.

[bluestateguy]

1. Such simplistic drivel

This is often why liberals lose elections. Conservative ideas are just frankly easier to sound bite into bumper sticker phrases and catch-phrases. Liberalism sometimes requires articulate, complicated responses to complex problems, which sometimes the child-like American public is not ready to hear.

"We've lost a lot of good soldiers," he said. "We lost some 6,000 Americans in 35 minutes on Sept. 11.

Actually the number is more like 3000. And not one of those responsible was an Iraqi, nor was the Iraqi government involved. Instead, our "friends" from Saudi Arabia supplied most of the hijackers.

"We're fighting the war on terror on their turf," Metcalf said. "In the last four years since 9-11 there have been no terrorist attacks here."

This Metcalf guy might want to be careful about using that little soundbite. It can become inoperable in a heartbeat. These terrorists are very, very patient people. Spain and Britain also participated in the war, and alas, they were hit anyway. These groups function on their own schedule, nobody else's. Oh, and what were the anthrax attacks? Seven people killed, and that terrorist is still at large.

[Benbow]

2. It wasn't even 3,000 Americans lost, it was 3,000 people - many of them

not American. It is Bush, among others, who is spreading the crap about only Americans having died in the plane attacks on 11 September.

[Roland99]

3. Beatriz wouldn't know a true Patriot if he came to her school wearing...

Tom Brady's uniform and carrying the U.S. Constitution in his hands.

[NNN0LHI]

4. I remember one time some Vietnam vets came to my high school

First a couple of pro-war vets gave their talk and then a vet using crutches and missing a leg got up and the first thing he said to us as he pointed his finger at the others who just spoke and very calmly said "those guys over there are lying to you kids".

I can remember the faces of the pro-war guys as their facial expressions changed and began to look like the cat that ate the canary after being exposed for the liars they were.

I will never forget that day.

Don

[fed-up]

5. Parents need to be vigilant and monitor what is happening on HS campuses

They need to talk to their kids and find out when the recruiters will be on campus and listen and/or tape what they say. They may be able to get equal access for an opposing viewpoint. If not they need to write letters to the editor or call the newspaper like I did to expose the lies. WE ARE THE MEDIA!!!

Parents also need to watch out for the Army Rock Climbing Wall and other military funhouse type things that are brought to campus and used to get MINORS to sign waivers (not valid if student under 18) which is really a means for the military to collect private personal information so they can then practice their guerilla marketing techniques.

This is what I did at my son's high school:

http://www.newsreview.com/issues/chico/2005-11-03/news.asp
Lead News
Up against the wall

Army uses chicanery to get student info

Susan Sullivan says the U.S. Army tried to pull a fast one on Chico High students last week when it erected a rock climbing wall on campus and then asked those who wanted to participate to sign a waiver and hand over a little personal information.

The school administration agrees--the Army was in the wrong and deceptive about its motives.

Sullivan, whose son Sean is a 17-year-old high school senior, knew that the recruiters would be on campus, Thursday, Oct. 27 as part of the anti-drug Red Ribbon Week activities. (added note-I found out by chance Wed eve, reading the online school bulletin) Last May, she said, Marine recruiters were on campus for Career Day using an inflatable fun house to attract student information. Under President Bush's No Child Left Behind Act, the school must provide the military with student information or risk losing federal funding. That is, unless the parent has signed an opt-out form, which the school must provide.

<snip>

This time around, Sullivan, a single mom with one child, was ready to take on the Army. She went to campus at about noon and saw the wall, an information booth and a line of students wanting to climb the wall. She said she told the next student in line that he didn't have to sign the form before he could climb on the wall.

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[NNN0LHI]

6. Why is it that we lock adults up for using lies and deceit to have sex...

...with 16 year old kids as we should but yet we allow adults to use lies and deceit to brainwash 16 year old kids to go off and get themselves killed or maimed?

I must be missing something here?

Don