Lou Dobbs is on.....I know many disagree with him, but I like him

[Roxy66]

He isnt right on some issues.....but he says things many t.v. talking heads wont

[liberaliraqvet26]

1. I like him too...

he's honest, takes on corporate america and doesn't follow a party line

I dont agree on everything but he puts on a good show

[Roxy66]

3. Yes, he does n/t

[havocmom]

2. Love it when he goes after the rich and corporations that thrive

on the labors of illegal immigrants instead of just whining about the workers themselves. Not too many on TV do that and it is the root of the problem: US businesses do not want to pay living wages and employment taxes. They profit a lot by exploiting poor from other nations while screwing Americans on wages and taxes.

[blue neen]

6. I had his show on last night, and that's exactly what he was talking about

He's so right. The corporations get richer on the backs of middle-class Americans.

[WiseButAngrySara]

41. On the backs of the 'vanishing' middle class. And what happens when it

really vanishes?

[napi21]

4. I'm a fan of Lou's too, but he is one of the only journalists on TV

who isn't afraid to say what he thinks.

[LSparkle]

8. And with the departure of Aaron Brown, the only JOURNALIST on CNN

[malaise]

18. I'll miss Aaron way more

He really is a journalist but that's not what they want these days.

[WiseButAngrySara]

43. I am aching for his loss as well, and like Lou Dobbs, I didn't always

agree with what he said, and perhaps more importantly, what he left unsaid. But I never doubted his sincerity, honesty and integrity. (If I did, it was rare, but who can always be perfect?)

[OhioBlue]

5. i like him too.

sometimes, he makes me roll my eyes with his position on certain things. But, yes, he usually tells it like he sees it and doesn't toe a party line. I also appreciate that he takes on Corporate America and the harm that is being done to the middle class.

[Rowdyboy]

7. Coming up: Bush bad poll numbers and next weeks elections...

[Reciprocity]

9. I take him for what he is. A fiscal conservative.

Fiscal conservatism is the stance that the government must "live within its means". Above all, fiscal conservatives oppose excessive government debt; this belief in balanced budgets tends to be coupled with a belief that government welfare programs should be narrowly tailored and that tax rates should be low, which implies relatively small government institutions.

http://www.answers.com/topic/conservatism

[Roxy66]

13. I'm a fiscal conservative too then.... I think all Dems are

[sufrommich]

17. Most Dems are,

and I agree.

[Reciprocity]

21. So I'm I.

Lou and I have more things in common when taxes and how our tax dollars are to be spent. We part company on many social issues thought.

[liberaliraqvet26]

14. That is true but...

they also believe corporations should have responsibilty and are against the rampant cronyism in this country.

this GOP is not fiscally conservative

[jbnow]

44. But he goes beyond that

He doesn't talk much about the debt, though he is disgusted when he does. He seems offended by these tax cuts, likely because of the debt and that they benefit only the richest. I've never heard him complain about assistance to needy citizens.

But what I LIKE about him is how sensible he is about the middle class, his outrage at them being screwed over by outsourcing, closures and policies that are only about profit for the corporation.
I'm sure a true fiscal conservative would be aware of the importance of a strong middle class though.

I first became aware of how prevalent outsourcing is through him and have learned so much about such things through him.

He is also blunt about bush administration (as I'm sure he was with Clinton). Just now he talked about getting notified that anyone who reports on the 2000 death march in Iraq would be showing they "had an agenda". He hates spin.
Last year (before the election) he brought up psy-op by this administration being used on the press, including CNN, trying to use them to unwittingly give false information to the public.

He is just blunt. I like that. (Even though I am sometimes disgusted by what he says)

[William769]

10. He's one of the few that I watch anymore.

I like him.

ON EDIT: He beats the hell out of tweety! I would rather see a thread about Lou over tweety any day!

[Epiphany4z]

11. I like him

I may not always agree with him but then I don't expect anyone to always agree with me. What I respect is he has his own opinnions..not just talking points for lazy reporters.

[leftchick]

12. BREAKING NEWS ANTI-US RIOTS!!!!!!

pulease! They are ANT-BUSH RIOTS! That is why I dislike Lou. He refuses to admit that the chimp is the WORST THING EVER FOR THIS COUNTRY AND THE WORLD!

[Roxy66]

20. He dogs Bush every night

[leftchick]

26. BS

he dogs the immigration issue and that is all. Oh yeah, this past year it was outsourcing. :eyes:

[sufrommich]

31. And we all know

outsourcing is a non issue.:eyes:

[leftchick]

37. and we all know

that is what I wrote. :eyes:

[0007]

47. Lou Dobb is a junior disguised shill. If CNN wanted the truth

about thing they'd get Phil Donahue and fire Lou Dobb that pretends to be on our side.

Live & lerarn Roxy66. And watch!!

[AntiFascist]

32. The entire country tends to get blamed for having Bush selected

...twice!

[patricia92243]

15. If the the media was full of Lou Dobbs type of reporters, the Democrats wo

would be the majority party.

[sufrommich]

24. Couldn't agree with you more.

The Dems could learn a lesson from his type of reporting.He's very much a democratic populist and speaks with integrity.I wish the Dems would focus on economic issues and ending the war.

[ClassWarrior]

16. True. He's a nasty conservative... but with integrity.

As opposed to the nasty criminal conservatives who have infested the Republicon Party.

NGU.

[indepat]

19. Still head, heart and nose are way up the RW's asshole-agenda IMHO

[liberaliraqvet26]

22. He is a champion of the American worker

[DistressedAmerican]

23. His Obsession With Immigrants Borders On The Racist.

Before he started freaking out on that EVERY NIGHT. I liked him. Can't stand him now. All of these replies an noone even mentions this issue?

He can connect the topic with anything. The other day I saw a report he did on a large roundup of sex offenders. One of them was an illegal immigrant. He went on and on about how imigrants were raping in the streets (they are coming for our white women). He totally ignored the other 49 people that were arrested. Of course they were citizens.

On Edit: Right on cue, there he goes! Borderline racist.

[Roxy66]

25. Uncontrolled Immigraton is a problem..... Period

[DistressedAmerican]

28. Does It Deserve 10 To 15 Minutes A Night?

How about those sensationalist stories like that one I just mentioned? When you sensationalize like that it goes way beyond immigration issues. It is obsessive. Hence, borderline racist.

[sufrommich]

29. I've already had this argument

on a Dobbs thread.Most americans support legal immigration.To imply that those that are concerned about illegal immigration are racist is not factual.But good luck.There are some who will not believe it.

[DistressedAmerican]

35. It Is Racist When It Is Sensationalist. See My Previous Post.

Can you really say that singling out one immigrant on a 50 person sex offender sweep and going on and on about how we are not safe is not racist?

When he sensationalizes about the non-representative case and tries to paint the whole group with it, which is what he did for a solid 10 munutes, IS racist and bigoted.

[Roxy66]

36. no thanks

[DistressedAmerican]

38. Huh?

[sufrommich]

46. I'm not watching it right now .

I haven't seen him do that.I get tired of every conversation on this board about illegal immigrants turned into a shout down.I am not a racist.There are genuine concerns about it and people have a right to voice those concerns without being insulted or stereotyped.I honestly wonder what you're alternative is?Should we open the borders?Do you understand that people are losing jobs and having their wages reduced because of this?How small minded to insist that those who don't agree with illegal immigration are just ignorant!I said it on the last Dobbs thread and I'll say it again,people ARE being affected by it,it's just not the right kind of people,it's the working poor and lower middle classes.Those in white collar jobs have no fear of it because it does not affect them.This issue will fall along class lines and the dems. will lose if they don't address it.

[DistressedAmerican]

48. It Is A Problem. For Dobbs It Is An Obsession.

I haven't called you anything. I pointed out one of many incidents I have seen of him sensationalizing the problem even going so far as to assert that is is increasing rape in this country. I gave a specific example of his reactionary bias.

You are welcome to whatever opinion you have on the issue. My issue is not with you. It is with the racist sensationalism of Lou Dobbs I am talking about.

Mind pointing out where i called you a racist or insulted you?

[sufrommich]

49. I am honestly sorry,

I meant to reply to # 30.:blush:

[DistressedAmerican]

53. No Problem.

[NNN0LHI]

30. So put a stop to it then

Make hiring an illegal immigrant a felony. First offense 5 years in the slammer with no parole and a million dollar fine.

Wouldn't be any more uncontrolled immigration.

Why doesn't Dobbs ever suggest that? Because its a lot easier for ignorant people to blame all their problems on them funny talking brown people. Isn't it?

Don

[buzzard]

40. I am pretty sure I have heard him suggest this, dont recall the date.n/t

[havocmom]

50. Actually, Dobbs suggests locking up the employers of illegals

pretty often. He knows where the real blame is and he doesn't shy away from saying the current government enables wealthy employers and corporations hiring of illegals and all the benefit/tax evasion that goes with it.

Dobbs has not blamed problems on "them funny talking brown people". He blames the government and the people who benefit from hiring illegals, treating them badly, paying them poorly and screwing the US workers out of decent wages and some hope of economic survival.

[sufrommich]

54. Here's what I don't like about this sentence.

"Because it's a lot easier for ignorant people to blame all their problems on funny little brown people."
Any time you accuse people of that you make them feel bad for something they may not be guilty of.People have real legitimate fears about losing their second incomes(under the table low paying jobs)or driving down their wages.When you take those genuine concerns and blame real problems on their "ignorance" and "racism" you sound like someone who isn't directly affected by the problem.Basically,you sound elitist.And that's what people hear.Then the reps take your accusations and use it to their advantage,and it works.Every single time.I wrote more to you in a thread up above,unfortunately I blended them together.But,honestly,it's a serious disconnect I see with a lot of Dems.It needs to stop.

[NNN0LHI]

27. I wonder why so many people like him? n/t

[blue neen]

52. I don't always like him, and I don't always like what he has to say.

I didn't like what he had to say about Howard Dean tonight.

IMHO, illegal immigration is an enormous problem, with no good solution in sight. It doesn't matter if the illegals are coming from Germany, Mexico, India, or Sweden. It is not their race or color of their skin that matters. Granted, in this day and age, why would anyone leave Germany or Sweden to immigrate to the U.S.? Their countries seem to be far more progressive than ours these days.

What does matter to me is that American corporations are hiring i. i.'s in droves because they don't have to pay those people a living wage.
From every angle you look at it, that sucks. Middle-class Americans are paying to take care of these people instead of the companies who are hiring them. That's not good for Americans, and that's not good for Mexicans (for example).

My niece just had a house built here in Western Pa. Do you know who built that house? Amish from PA and Mexicans built it. The contractors pay these people under the table. The contractor doesn't have to pay unemployment taxes, any type of benefits, or put any money into Workmen's Compensation. If a worker is injured, that worker is totally screwed. They have no insurance, and they receive no Workmen's Comp. How can that be good for that worker?

The workers themselves aren't paying any taxes, local, state, or federal. How can that be good for Americans?

I wish there were a simple answer. I don't pretend to even have a clue of one. It is my wish that people wouldn't fight about it and would work together to find a solution.



edited for typo

[Elwood P Dowd]

34. Illegal immigration is costing us a fortune and driving down wages

Of course, republican business owners love it. They pay them $5.15 or less (cash under the table) and can treat them like crap.

[havocmom]

51. Employers often do not pay for workers comp and other taxes

on employees when they hire illegals. It costs us all a lot and keeps the illegal workers held down too

[Roxy66]

33. I really cant stand Ed Henry...all he does is spew talking points

he doesnt know how to report news.....he just repeats what each side says...talking points

[Roxy66]

39. He's going after smear Politics

thats a funny Bloomberg commercial

[Roxy66]

42. Lou Dobbs calling the Bushies out on Spinning the War

Told them if they reported the 2000 dead...they had an agenda

[Daphne08]

45. Dobbs -- Yes, I'm fuming about the Howard Dean story, too, but

he probably makes the Republicans as angry as he does us, regarding Bush.

Dobbs does stand up for the American worker despite his right-wing views.