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CrackpotAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 07:15 AM
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Say Goodbye to Mr. Libby
Edited on Fri Nov-04-05 07:23 AM by CrackpotAmerica
If Mr. Libby does not plea, I think we will be reading about his involvement in some kind of “fatal accident” in the near future.

Although I am not personally afraid of Mr. Cheney, I would be deftly afraid if I were wedged between his credibility and the exposition of his rotten soul. And this is exactly where Mr. Libby finds himself.

I believe that the real crisis in the White House has been purposefully left untouched. This crisis is the end result of the deliberate partnership of a group of narcissists. When the anomalous weight of their collective treachery to serve themselves begins to break down, the Id takes over each individual and the collective dissolves.

When this happens, it is irreversible. A once perceived front becomes a Darwinist struggle to survive. Rest assured, every individual in the group is expendable, until the person equipped with the larger power and resource will be the “last man standing.”

It is my opinion that Mr. Cheney is a venomous and despicable man. Further, he has the capabilities to “remove” most problems that face him. Should it come down to the wire with him in reference to Mr. Libby, I am certain that he will dispose of Mr. Libby without pause.

I am certain that Mr. Cheney spends many hours contemplating what will go down if this goes to trial. And with his contempt for all things dignified, true, or honorable, I have no doubt that Mr. Cheney will not hesitate to ensure the appropriate level of destruction for Mr. Libby when the time comes.

I suppose we shall see.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 07:28 AM
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1. Like your post, but don't you think the spotlight is too bright and too
big on the WH to have anyone go down like that? Don't you think that would only taint the WH - they already have enough bad press and something like that wouldn't help.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 07:31 AM
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3. Totally agree
I don't see how they could think they could pull this sort of thing off.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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CrackpotAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 07:31 AM
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4. These People Don't Care About The Integrity Of the WH.
If it's the difference between being indicted himself or remaining free, I think he will do whatever he can to remain free.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 07:50 AM
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7. I think MORE likely is a pardon....then a 3 year wait....then a whack.
they wouldn't do it now.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 07:29 AM
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2. They can't whack Libby
He's too high profile now and everybody knows why he's going on trial. Of course they'd like to have him whacked. But in my opinion, they can't do it.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 07:35 AM
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5. I'm sure Cheney is very please with Scooter today
By pleading not guilty he is sending a strong signal that he is not cooperating with the prosecution and is willing to fall on his sword for the neocon cause. He probably thinks he'll be considered a hero when all is said and done.

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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 07:35 AM
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6. you smelling a "suicide" coming on?
I was wondering who the message was really for yesterday when Libby's attorneys spoke. I was also surprised by his pick of attorneys and how intimidating they appeared.
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Gildor Inglorion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 08:15 AM
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8. If I were Mr. Libby, I would AVOID small planes...
'nuff said. Tragic accident; so sad, great loss, etc., etc.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 09:34 AM
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13. And just like warnings on cigarette packages, large planes should
warn other passengers when he's aboard (not that he ever travels by anything but private jet).
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 08:22 AM
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9. The Hand Is Already Shown...Delay and Drag It Out
This worked in Iran-Contra. By the time Walsh was able to really indict and go to trial, so much time had passed that the public and politic interest to move forward was almost zero. Cases that weren't covered by Poppy's pardon were quickly settled out. Even in Clinton's case...watching Bob Ray discuss this on TDS last night...he could have gone after Clinton but the appetite/interest/motive just wasn't there.

This is what the Repugnicans are hoping is the case with Libby. Since he wasn't a high profile figure, they assume the public's interest in him and his case will fade as it drags on through months and possibly years.

Also, remember, there's a clock running on Fitzgerald here. He has another year or so to really keep this investigations/prosecutions going or have it fall into the noise of time and the next political campaign. Plus, fatigue will surely set in. Long trials aren't fun and sexy...all that Fitzmas happy-happy-joy-joy will long be forgotten by the time a jury is handed any Plame Affair case.

Libby is and will remain low profile. He's no threat to this regime I suspect that if he's convicted, he'll quickly be pardoned and then vanish into right wing think tank land...back to work on the next clandestine war.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 08:35 AM
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10. He has become a liability they can't afford
There is a reason Libby wants this thing front and center...it is because he doesn't have any guarantees from the WH yet. Libby isn't a "made man".
As long as he stays in the public eye, it will be harder for them to do anything to him or his family. I would think at this point, he would be concerned for his family.
I think that is why he looks so pale and drawn in the photos. He knows he is a dead man walking. He knows how these people do business and certainly the only thing that keeps him from singing like a canary is the fact that there is most likely blood on his hands too that will pull him down if he tells what he knows.
If I were him, I would get the best deal I could get, then witness protection for myself and my family.
His days are numbered, no doubt. He knows way too much. Everyone knows that at some point, prison will be intolerable to him. He will be dead before it does.
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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 09:43 AM
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14. Ah, but Libby IS a made man.
Major PNAC player from the start. We don't have a president. We have a cabal, and the chimp is just the frontman.
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CrackpotAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 09:50 AM
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15. paul castellano was the main made guy, and then. . .
Edited on Fri Nov-04-05 09:52 AM by CrackpotAmerica
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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 10:55 AM
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16. LOL n/t
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 09:23 AM
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11. I keep coming back to Cheney's shooting expedition
Thinking about what sort of person just shoots animals for the enjoyment. Or will someone pop-up and say it's a sport to be able to hit something flying?

I don't know, to kill 200 or so ducks just to kill them? It's like there is something missing, maybe empathy? It's a form of bloodsport, killing for enjoyment.

Cheney's a bad one alright. That's probably how he got where he is. Power has it's price. In his case I think it's his humanity or whatever it is that made him at one time a human. I doubt he has any feelings. Maybe he is little more than a machine, like that pacemaker keeping his heart pumping blood. There is nothing inside but intelligence. Whatever is left of his soul could probably fit in a thimble.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 09:26 AM
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12. When did he write that thing about the Bear and the 10-year-old Girl?
Do you think the Bear was Libby's psychological cognate for Cheney? or for himself?
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