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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 04:34 AM
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Prez Bush should advocate for legal cannabis.
He smoked it. Now he should stop being a hyporcite. He should not only advocate for legalization but amnesty for all who are in prison for possesion charges.
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firefox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 04:40 AM
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1. I agree with you
This is something I wrote at HempCity.net on Wednesday.

There was an initiative in California in 1972 calling for legalization that received 34% approval. What disheartens me about the so-called leadership of NORML and MPP is that they do not see the wisdom in calling for an initiative for Free Cannabis in California until it passes. I think it would pass on the first vote myself, although there is also a conspiracy not to produce polls that would tell us the present situation.

The last highly quoted number of 34% for legalization across the US is about 4 years old. I have asked on this forum and others for anyone to produce a poll from 2004 or 2005 and it seems there isn't one. Marc Paquette that puts up the Medpot digest here for Medpot.net said the figure of 57% in Canada comes from a poll this year. I have to think that Free Cannabis has now reached a majority and the number is being supressed. Somebody has stuck their toe in the water and knows, but is holding back the details.

The fact that there is no major poll reflects badly on NORML and MPP because we need a detailed map of where we are now in a majority. I do not see how we cannot be in a majority in California.

My position is that the Proposition in California needs to call for the removal of all cannabis related convictions and that anyone in prison for cannabis related convictions should be released. Either Cannabis Prohibition is right or Cannabis Prohibition is wrong and it has always been right or it has always been wrong. I say it has always been wrong and all you have to do is see how the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937 went through Congress without any call for it on the part of the people to know that it has always been wrong.

There is a group in California that has adopted this strategy and I might could find the link if my computer didn't poof on me a few weeks ago. First, we need to get it out there what we really believe and I believe that prohibition is wrong now and has always been wrong. The Select Senate Committee Report in Canada a few years ago called for the removal of all criminal records so there has to be merit to what I say. Besides that it, it gives us an army of people that have lived with the injustice of a conviction for no telling how long and they would like to see there record cleared and the injustice ended.

It only takes 10 percent of the number of voters in the last election to make an initiative. When there is a majority firm in their conviction against an injustice against a minority programmed by propaganda how can we not win%? If NORML would have put out their greatest wish for cannabis in California the petition would have flown threw. And even if it lost it would have led to the attrition of the ignorance that dominates the base of those that want to continue prohibition. Those that support prohibition do not know they even want to continue the fraud and failure of prohibition as all they know is they do not want marijuana legalized. They do not think the issue is prohibition and they do not know it to be the fraud and failure that we do. My thinking is NORML and MPP do not want an initiative in California because they think that it will win. Why not just put up a draft of an initiative. I mean what do they really want? Why not put it in writing?

If legalization would some how fail on an Iniative in California or Colorado even, it is only because we have not stormed the castle wall before. On the second wave it would surely fall.

My belief is the government knows that prohibition is going to fall and it is going to because of the Internet. The last four years have given us a majority among the literate for sure and probably the population as a whole. Again last night with a thread on the vote for legalization in Denver, I called out the elected officials and there assistants at Democratic Underground to jump on the thread about the Denver vote and tell me what was wonderful about prohibition. Like always there is not even a response and this is a huge website of political wonks with a Democratic spirit.

There is no justification for prohibition and I will issue a challenge here to produce a link that outlines what we get out of prohibition that anywhere near justifies the cost in money, lost dignity, reputation before the law, and attack on unalienable rights. I know how the USG justifies it in their heart. Cannabis Prohibition is necessary for the drug war and the drug war is needed for the police state that is necessary to control the masses. That and the fact that we are a fascist country controlled by huge industries like the pill industry that could see there $250 billion in sales take a nose dive with Free Cannabis.

We are winning for sure as the support for prohibition is going all one way and that is for ending it. All we need is a chance to vote and a chance to discuss. We do not need NORML. We do not need a united organization. All we need is a proper draft of an iniative in California calling for full legalization to hit the Internet with the support of one prominent group or one prominent person like Valerie Corral.

The complete corruption of government can no longer be hidden and when properly explained people will understand that it is corruption that has led to the continuing of a prohibition that should have never been. There is a statement I wanted for my fiction book that I shared at Cnews one time that goes- It takes a thirsty horse to drink. Now that corruption of our government is on the minds of so many people, it is time to let them hear of our story of corruption. We as a county are a very thirsty horse.

Today is the time to be drafting those iniatives. There is no reason to wait. There is no reason to call on NORML or MPP. If Valarie Corral called for legalization and the removal of all criminal records for cannabis conviction, state prohibition in California would take to its death bed. It would be slam over.

The call for legalization will only go away when there is full legalization. The feds know that. They know it is lost. There is only one Logical Conclusion to prohibition and that is its death. Give me a petition for California and if somehow there is trouble with getting signatures I will go there myself just like the thousands of others would. But there would be no problem.

Gentlemen, we have a thirsty horse and one stonewall is no obstacle.
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firefox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 04:52 AM
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3. There was a poll by Gallup released yesterday
The proper question should read "Should cannabis/marijuana be regulated and taxed in a manner similar to alcohol and tobacco" Gallup put out some chickenshit report on cannabis saying 36% approved legalization using half a sample, whatever that is. My opinion on their so-called poll is at medpot.net with the NORML announcement- http://tinyurl.com/8rwcq
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 04:41 AM
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2. Yeah and he can make drunk driving legal too.
Edited on Fri Nov-04-05 04:42 AM by MindPilot
and desertion. :sarcasm:
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 07:28 AM
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4. Taxation is the ONLY way it will ever be legal.
If Uncle Sam doesn't get his piece of the pie, no one does.

Just my $0.02.

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Bzzzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 07:30 AM
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5. That would be fine with me...
it might bring in enough revenue to eliminate Indiana property taxes.
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 07:50 AM
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7. Dontcha know it!
The revenue amounts could be staggering. It could benefit our entire nation.

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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 07:34 AM
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6. Guarantee if he did he'd still get the support of the lemmings ...
that haven't abandoned him yet.
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