CBS: Anti-Bush Protests Mark Reelection {WORLD CAN'T WAIT}

[meganmonkey]

Wow!

Anti-Bush Protests Mark Reelection

The 22nd Amendment ensures that a new commander in chief will be sworn in on Jan. 20, 2009. But some Americans aren't willing to wait that long.

To mark the one-year anniversary of President Bush's reelection Wednesday, a group called The World Can't Wait staged rallies at sites across the United States, calling for radical change in Washington.

"We seek to create a political situation where the Bush administration's program is repudiated, where Bush himself is driven from office, and where the whole direction he has been taking U.S. society is reversed," the group, which formed last summer, said in its mission statement.

The rallies came at a time at which the Bush administration may be at its weakest point since it assumed power in 2001. The government's response to Hurricane Katrina and the rising death toll in Iraq, and the indictments of the top House Republican and a senior administration official have further emboldened the opposition. According to a CBS News poll conducted this week, Mr. Bush's job approval rating is now 35 percent, the lowest number of his presidency. Organizers of Wednesday's rallies hoped to utilize this rocky time for the Republican establishment to tap into public discontent and generate steam for their movement.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/11/02/national/main1005030.shtml

[kainah]

1. when he's at 35%

I guess it's OK to cover the protests. I did a google news check earlier and didn't find much mention on the WORLD CAN'T WAIT protests in the MSM but maybe it was too early.

[DJ MEW]

3. just because his approval rating is down

doesn't mean the news sources aren't still scared of him. They have been repeating the Bush talking points for so long that mentioning anything against Bush Co. is not possible anymore.

I have noticed that CBS news seems to be more critical of the Right wing then most other Television news out there.

I still miss Dan Rather, I liked his style as the anchor.

[Gman]

2. Hippies go home?

Sarah Chambers, a member of the NYU College Republicans, was one of them. She held up her homemade poster that read "Hippies Go Home!" and criticized the rallies' organizers for telling kids to skip school in order to come to the event.

Sarah Chambers has an incredibly unhealthily sheltered life.

[meganmonkey]

4. She only succeeds in making herself look bad

I don't know about today's protests, but over the last few years I have marched with nuns and accountants and grandmothers and my own parents!

In fact, I am often disappointed at how few hippies are there! :P

[tnlefty]

5. You beat me to mentioning this. I was wondering why all of those college

repubs were there to hold up signs. Afterall, I'm certain they'd be the first to sign up to be in bushie's** war.

[FreedomAngel82]

12. So did she skip school too?

:shrug:

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[meganmonkey]

7. This is happening in THIS COUNTRY. The picture is from NYC

These are patriotic Americans in the streets, and the point is that our current administrations' lies are wreaking havoc on not only our own nation, but others as well. We need to get these people out of the White House. Most Americans can't stand Bushco anymore and can see throught the lies.

Our government is NOT representing the interests of the people, and the whole damn world is suffering for it.

Did you even read the article? These protests are happening ALL OVER AMERICA today.

:patriot:

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[meganmonkey]

13. Why don't you read the article, and then post a response

rather than threadjacking with uninformed assumptions based on the thread title? You didn't even read the paragraphs I posted here.

As for standing up for our rights, that is exactly what these people are doing. That's what the millions of us who have been protesting in the streets for the last 3 years have been doing. That is what we will continue to do until this war ends, and until we have some semblance of democracy again. I will not let it go quietly.

Hopefully I'll see you in the streets!

:patriot:

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[meganmonkey]

17. Don't be sorry

I am the one who is sorry that there are people who will disparage a whole movement by the statements of one person. That is why 35% of Americans still support President Bush. They'll figure out soon enough what the rest of us are so upset about.

Hopefully we won't have to lose thousands more US soldiers and innocent Iraqis in the meantime.

Peace.

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[meganmonkey]

24. No, that is all that the major media outlets cover

First off, with the Repubs in charge of both houses of Congress and the WH, they don't exactly get to choose the agenda. They are truly anb 'opposition party' - it is the only thing they have the power to do right now.


But here is a link to a compilation of various things the Dems have done lately and some excerpts, including one from Dean about the Democratic agenda:

10/24/05
Dean's own words
On the Democratic Agenda: "The truth is the Democrats are the party of moral values. We are altruists and believe we are all in it together and have a community to sustain. The President's attack on Social Security wasn't just about money and neoconservative nonsense. It was about a fundamental attack on the notion that America is one community and we have responsibility for each other. When we talk about moral values... 67% of America believes that it is a moral value that everybody has health insurance; 60% of Americans believe it's immoral for the federal government to tell families what to do in their personal decisions -- decisions that have to do with their personal lives. So, most Americans agree with Democratic moral values."

10/27/05
Dems try to protect hurricane voters
Concerned that political operatives may try to manipulate the battered Gulf region's voting process in upcoming elections, House Democrats on Wednesday asked the Justice Department to vigilantly defend the rights of people displaced by recent hurricanes.



10/24/05
Kennedy Speaks Out On Gulf Coast Hiring Practices
Sen. Kennedy, a member of the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration, Boarder Security and Citizenship, is speaking out on hiring practices in the Gulf Coast Region. In a statement, the senator responded to reports of undocumented workers who are working for low wages after being hired by federal contractors to rebuild the Gulf Coast.


Dozens more...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2214013

(in the interest of full disclosure, I am a registered independent and last year was the first time I voted for a Democratic presidential candidate)

[nadinbrzezinski]

30. Watching C-SPAN may change that opinion

after all it is the real article, and not the So Called Liberal Media filter

[nadinbrzezinski]

29. Try to talk to some survivors

they will tell you very similar feelings, 1932, 34, Germany

Now here is one thing you should do... if you are truly curious... find out what the President's grand father did during WW II... oh his name is Presscott and IG Farben should be in the bolean string

;-)

[IndyOp]

33. Because Pinter is a Nobel Laureate - Goodwin's Law is Suspended.

IMHO.

God Bless - O8)

[manic expression]

9. You are terribly mistaken

You do not comprehend what the message is. It is not that the world is expecting us to do something. It is that this administration is so base and disgusting, and its actions have such a horrible effect on the world, that it needs to be stopped.

However, your disdain of other people's opinions is quite ignorant. To make a good decision, one must consider other views and be concerned with the consequences. Being so enveloped in petty pride and arrogance can only lead to very dire things for those who are so aloof.

"The World" has been suffering because of our little misadventures (and I don't just mean Iraq). Your lack of understanding is appalling.

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[manic expression]

19. Not interference

Since the world is very much affected by our actions in many ways, they should have a say in that.

It matters little if they are part of "the process", since the actions which come from that process may very well affect them, not to mention be something that should be opposed.

Also, I have no qualms with saying another leader of a foreign country is wrong or engaging in wrong actions. I believe there is nothing out of line with anyone from any country speaking out and being heard. There should be the same respect for someone from another country speaking on a topic as a person from this country (although the government doesn't care what we think or say or do at this point).

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[manic expression]

26. Not quite

The UN is not structured that way. The permanent members of the security council have much more power than those which are not. That is obvious.

The UN was powerless as America invaded Iraq with no justification. That is not the UN's fault, but the country that did it needed to heed the wishes of the world. It did not, and you can see where it got us.

I hope you are not saying smaller countries are "less capable".

[meganmonkey]

28. Right - one of the main problems the UN has with efficacy is the US

itself. We didn't let the UN inspectors finish their job in Iraq, and we defied the rest of the UN in starting this war.

I am not a huge fan of the UN, but a good part of the problem is our nation's disregard for its authority.

[Laurab]

25. Um, like we don't interfere with other countries?

and isn't it "interference"? Unwelcome interference, unwanted interference, bullying interference, and in some cases very deadly interference? I don't know why I bother to respond, it's kind of obvious...well, let's just say we're not on the same wavelength.

One should remember though, that aside from interfering with many countries and many things that are not our business, we have invaded and occupied a country for no reason -well, for no legal reason, anyway. We have caused an untold number of unnecessary deaths, maimings and, of course, have brought that country to the brink of civil war. That, in and of itself, is enough to give the rest of the world the right to "interfere" and protest our government. What we've done has affected the rest of the world.

I wish they would "interfere" a bit more, really, but of course, we don't answer to anyone anymore. Those silly, peaceful, world agreements are so "quaint", it's no wonder we removed ourselves from them.

Welcome to DU - you'll get a better idea of the "big picture" if you manage to stick around long enough.

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[manic expression]

32. Wait...

I hope you are not ignoring US actions in:

Guatemala
Iran
El Salvador
Chile
Cuba
Turkey
Iraq
Haiti
Afghanistan
Nicaragua
...the list goes on...

These are all disgusting actions that have resulted in horrible effects for people around the world. All because of Uncle Sam's base aims. And this is ignoring US imperialism pre-WWII!

America is probably among the best examples of not putting rights of the people in the forefront. The government does not represent the people, it is committing war crimes and worse around the world. We are supporting tyrannical governments in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Pakistan, Kuwait, Israel and others RIGHT NOW. Furthermore, we leave our disadvantaged out to the dogs, while countries with less wealth actually help their people. Sure, we can march in circles, but we have very little real say in American politics.

By far the most giving country? WRONG. We give very little in relation to our wealth, especially when compared to other first world nations. Look at the Tsunami. Did the world "look to us"? No. Did we deliver a fair amount of aid anyway? Not really. Please....

The Kyoto Treaty was designed to limit global warming, which would help many things. America, in its usual self-centered and ignorant fashion, pulled out in favor of H2's and petty destructive habits. We create 25% of the world's greenhouse gasses. That is wrong. We need to change. The world can't wait.

The best bet is to try to look at what's really going on.

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[manic expression]

37. Sorry, indeed

We give the most in terms of total value, but look at the percentage of what we have. If a poor man gives the shirt off his back to another person, that is much more impressive than a rich man throwing a dollar or two to someone, although it may be worth more (too bad?).

The amount of money we gave to the tsunami was about 3 days worth of the money we shell out for the occupation of Iraq. Think about that. We can't even effectively help our own citizens in trouble (NOLA Hurricane), while countries like Cuba do so a much better job with much more ease.

I believe that America has suppressed dissent in many ways. We do have a long history of doing so. It is much like the Roman Empire/Republic. In the Imperial stage, they still had the assemblies for the public, but they had no power. Even in the Roman Republic, the patricians ruled, the plebeians did not, and anyone who opposed it for the good of the people was clubbed and thrown in the Tiber River. This is not even mentioning Rome's brutal and largely unjustified campaigns against other nations and peoples.

I appreciate your quote.

[JohnnyCougar]

38. That sounds like something Hunter S. Thompson would write.

You forget, though, that the aid that the US gives out is really just a bribe to other countries leaderships to cooperate with us. Most of the time, that "aid" only goes to corrupt governments and their cronies.

Is a mobster bribing a police officer considered "aid" even if the police officer can send his kids to a better school because of it? I suppose one could call that "aid," but very few would be able to argue that this exchange of money is good and just.

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[nadinbrzezinski]

41. Hmm curious they have actually done

statisitical analysis of how much we give as a nation and we come down as rather stingy. The we are the most benevolent nation in the world is another RW talking point. Especially when compared to real statistics... you may want to do dome Googling of your own.

[JohnnyCougar]

42. Classical conditioning has nothing to do with it.

I don't think you understand what classical conditioning is. Even remotely.

I think our country runs the world in gangster fashion. Foreign aid is nothing more than bribes. Some of it may be used for good, some for bad, but it is used by America to buy favors from other governments at the expense of taxpayers.

Is this bad? Well, it's better than bombing people we disagree with. But by no means is the foreign aid some kind of charity mission our country is on.

[The Wielding Truth]

15. They are saying what we have seen. They are not afraid to speak.

They have seen Bush and Co. lie to the world and we did nothing .They have seen the Rumsfeld's torture pictures and we did nothing. They watch the wealthy take what they want and we do nothing. They are speaking loudly in a free democracy and we are not. I hold no ill will for them. Don't you feel ashamed that we aren't correcting our own government? This administration and all government officials are supposed to work for our benefit not just for theirs.Here's to all who stand for truth. Remember we live on a world not an island. What our government does effects the world.

[Aimah]

20. In some ways I agree with you but..

We meddle in the politics of "The World". Who we vote in as president effects them greatly but they have no vote.

[alittlelark]

22. ....sigh.....

[Catrina]

40. Normally I would agree with that

but, just as we have lost our moral authority regarding human rights issues under this administration, we have to endure now the judgement of a world that has watched us interfere in who rules other countries.

This administration has participated in the coup d'etat of a duly elected president in Haiti.

It was involved in the attemtped, 'tho, thankfully, failed coup attempt of another duly elected president, chosen democratically by his people, in Venezuela.

In Iraq, with no invitation from the people of Iraq, we have installed a government whose interests are not those of the Iraqi people while killing tens of thousands of their citizens.

This administration is planning to interfere in the governments of Iran, Syria and Lebanon.

Cuba appears to be on their list, although they are a little over-stretched at the moment.

So, we can no longer complain when the world responds by demanding that we change these policies. I think they have a right now to do so.

Maybe when we get our country back we will have the moral right to tell other countries not to comment on our leadership or to make demands that we stay out of other people's countries, but until then, I'm afraid the Bush administration has given the world the right to interfere since this president's policies have affected the world, negatively.

The citizens of Bush's target countries, feel as you do. They do not want us interfering in their business. We did not respect their wishes, we can hardly expect them to respect ours, sadly.

[FtWayneBlue]

8. world can't wait organization bought ads on

popular NY radio station, ads were initially approved, then yanked just before air time.

[meganmonkey]

18. That is so shitty!

What was their excuse? :grr:

[FreedomAngel82]

11. Yay for everybody!!

:toast:

[Mach V]

31. Libby Arraignment Tomorrow

CASE NUMBER: 1:2005-cr-00394-RBW Judge Walton
USA vs LIBBY
11/03/2005 10:30AM Courtroom 5 Arraignment

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
333 Constitution Ave., NW
Washington, DC 20001



If you are in DC, bring your signs to help maintain a media presence on this case.

Libby Arraignment Tomorrow

[newyawker99]

43. Hi Mach V!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[IndyOp]

34. We seek... Bush driven from office -- WOO-HOO!

They got the magic words in the corporate media - and it is college kids who did it - that's worth some

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

and a bunch of

:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:

[meganmonkey]

35. One little kick before bed

In honor of the 2,035 soldiers who have died and the 100,000+ Iraqi civilians who have been murdered by the liars in the White House...

The World Can't Wait.

:patriot: