Remember during campaign Kerry said Saddam was negotiating to leave Iraq

[blm]

and the details were being worked out still when Bush RUSHED the invasion?

Media treated it like it was just a campaign tactic of the "He'd say anything" variety, following the RNC talking point against that charge.

Well, CNN just NOW did a report that CONFIRMED the story.

Funny, they didn't think it was a story LAST YEAR.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

1. I still don't think it's a story.

Anybody seriously believe Saddam was willing to go into exile in
the UAE or anywhere?

[DURHAM D]

2. Yes. European and British newspapers reported it for one.

Bush ordered the back channels to stop talking to Saddam. He was afraid someone would broker a deal and he wouldn't get his war.

[blm]

3. Well, then Richard Branson is making it up, too, as he has said he was on

board to help provide as much transport as needed to make it happen and that it went right down to the final act when Bush started bombing.

He talked about it in an interview that I think was last December.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

5. I didnt say he or anybody was making anything up.

Except for Saddam if he said he was ready to go into exile.
I think he was trying whatever he could to delay the war
but that he would never have gone into exile.

[blm]

9. That could be true. Thanks to Bush's rush to war we'll never know that.

Of course, Bush could also have KNOWN it was happening and Saddam was readying to depart and that is why he started his war earlier than planned.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

10. But of course it's just what I believe based on everything I heard

about Saddam & gathered about what kind of hubris-driven man
he was. I think they should have kept inspecting as long as
it took, even years. If they had kept inspecting, they'd still be
inspecting & still wouldnt have found anything, whether Saddam
went into exile or not.

[blm]

12. No kidding. Saddam was as trustworthy as a ....... Bush.

.

[TNOE]

4. Hello????

These crooks are all in it together. They were once business partners with the Bushies - he was worth BILLIONS - I have no doubt whatsoever that he was moved (by the Russian envoy right before the way) along with his sons - to a secure location and is living quite nicely. Those were not his sons we got and spread all over the news (in violation of the Geneva Convention) and that is not the real Saddam on trial. It was WIDELY known that Saddam had like 6 doubles and his wife and daughter say that is not HIM.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

6. Oh boy. Start a new thread on that one.

It's too good to hide in this one.

[TNOE]

7. Nope - all true

check for yourself. Remember when the supposed sons bodies were being held up in a tent - and the military just happened to have morturary makeup on them? It's all out there - read up on Saddam in years prior - he always had doubles - fear of assination and all.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

8. PLEASE START A NEW THREAD ON YOUR EXCITING THEORY.

Please. I would love to see it.

[TNOE]

11. Why?

Why would I do that? To appease or amuse you? Nah.

BAGHDAD - The bodies of the two slain sons of Saddam Hussein, Uday and Qusay, underwent "facial reconstruction" before they were shown to international correspondents Friday, a U.S. military official said.

"The two bodies have undergone facial reconstruction with mortician's putty to make them resemble as closely as possible the faces of the brothers when they were alive," a U.S. military official told a pool correspondent.

This was standard practice and there was no intention to deceive, he said, speaking to around 15 journalists at Baghdad's international airport where the corpses were being kept, AFP reported.

Qusay's beard had been shaved off but his moustache had been left, while Uday's beard was still intact, the pool correspondent said.

He added that the corpses did not look like they had in the initial photographs taken of the two and released to the press on Thursday.

A wound in Uday's face had been repaired, but there was still a hole in the top of his head, he added.

Speaking as the bodies were shown to independent journalists, the military official said there was "no indication" that either of the brothers had committed suicide during the U.S. raid Tuesday on the house in the northern city of Mosul where they were holed up.

He added that the U.S. military had not yet decided what to do with the bodies, but that it may be prepared to release them to family members.

The U.S.-led coalition decided to release photographs of two corpses on Thursday in an effort to overcome deep suspicion among Iraqis over whether the pair were really killed in Tuesday's assault. But many Iraqis interviewed Thursday were still sceptical.


http://www.tehrantimes.com/Description.asp?Da=7/26/03&Cat=2&Num=010

[A-Schwarzenegger]

14. Because I've never seen this theory discussed on its own here at DU.

Has it been? That Saddam & his sons are living the high life
elsewhere & it's not really Saddam on trial? Air it out! You
ask Why?, I ask Why Not!

[TNOE]

15. Here's some links

for you to read - got to go though

But in passing - I have to say - I don't believe one word out of this administration's mouth - I'm much more inclined to believe anyone or anything else. Remember when we supposed "bombed & killed" Saddam & his sons what 20 times in the early parts of the war? Kind of like now we catch the #2 Al Queida guy 100 times?

http://rense.com/Datapages/sadamcap.htm

http://www.rense.com/general37/huss.htm

http://www.rense.com/general35/cat.htm

Yea, yea, I know it's Rense - but they got a great search engine and I love Rense!

[A-Schwarzenegger]

16. To be clear--You Believe the Saddam on trial is not real Saddam?

And if so, you don't believe it is worth its own thread?

[blm]

19. To be fair....I could see Bush having a double go on trial for him.

And Bush is pretty much in the same league of narcissism as Saddam.

[_dynamicdems]

13. If I had a dollar for every time Kerry was right

I'd probably be a Republican! Just kidding. That is something I could never be.

Senator Kerry was right about so many things that have come to light since the election, things kept tightly under the wraps of a repressed media. The binds are loosening and these issues are now coming to light.

[blm]

17. The damn press showed all the skepticism for Dems and NONE for Bush.

And there has never been a president who deserved critical scrutiny more than Bush.

[_dynamicdems]

18. Amen. However,

the press had incentives (of both the carrot and stick variety) not to do so. The investigation I'd really like to see get underway is one into the corruption and intimidation of our media. It is a rock I'd sincerely like to see turned over. Imagine what slimy creatures congregate beneath!

[blm]

20. My guess is that they are the same slimy creatures we already know are in

bed with the fascist agenda of BushInc.

[_dynamicdems]

21. Oh but how cathartic to see them all naked and exposed,

wriggling and writhing in the dirt beneath that rock.