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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 09:32 PM
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To counter some of the Clark trash talk around here....
The following is an account of the NAACP forum
by another Clark supporter:
______________________________________________


Behind the scenes at the NAACP Forum

As the forum began at 5:45 only 3 candidates had arrived: Congressman
Kucinich, Reverend Sharpton and General Clark. Sharpton had some
really good quips in his opening statement, saying that Bush can't
find Osama, he can't find Saddam, he can't find WMD. Sharpton said
that next year he was going to help Bush find Crawford, Texas.
Sharpton also said that what Dean, Kerry, Edwards and Lieberman had
done to General Clark on Thursday night was a disgrace, that the true
enemy was Bush.

The moderator was a fellow from local Charlotte NPR and he was very
good, setting a relaxed tone. Each of the 3 fellows got a chance to
answer the same questions, questions covering a broad range of
topics. All 3 guys treated each other with great respect, as it
should be. A favorite line from General Clark was that in order to
win Bush would need brothers in the other 49 states. Another good one
was when he said that the main problem with the Patriot Act is
Attorney General John Ashcroft. Clark said that Ashcroft is not much
of an attorney and he sure isn't a general.

As the forum continued it became clear that the folks stuck in
Phoenix weren't due anytime soon. Dennis Kucinich had a plane to
catch so he made some closing remarks then left the stage. About 15
or 20 minutes later Reverend Sharpton had to do the same. No one, and
I mean no one, from the audience was getting up to leave at this
point and, as reported by the media, it turned into the Wesley Clark
Show.

I believe that divine providence had a role here. This is a forum
that General Clark was not originally scheduled to attend, a forum
that was to have 7 people on the stage but General Clark was there
and he had the stage and the room to himself. The General spoke from
his heart about affirmative action, immigration and racial profiling.
In one shining moment he asked all of the veterans in the audience to
stand. I am not a very emotional person, for better or worse, but I
have to admit that this was a very, very powerful sight to behold, my
jaw was clenched about as hard as it could be in order to maintain my
composure. General Clark also took questions directly from the
audience, he got up from behind the desk and walked right over near
the questioners. It was quite intimate and personal, he bonded with
the crowd on a very direct level. The forum ended with only General
Clark on stage and as he walked out he paused at every single row to
shake hands, chat and take pictures. He is simply one of the most
decent, one of the most human men I've ever met. I wouldn't have
thought that such warmth would come from a General but of course this
is no ordinary officer.

After leaving the room we headed down the escalator together and over
into a bar/lobby area. The General spoke with several folks one on
one, he wasn't rushed, he treated every person with the same respect.
When a new volunteer approached him with some ideas the General took
out his PDA and made notes for several minutes while his campaign
staff waited and watched. It's been said before and it's more than
worth saying again: this guy is the real deal. Onward and upward.
________________________________________________________

I know a lot of DU'ers seem to hate General Clark but I
like him and I like what he stands for.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 09:33 PM
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1. Thanks for posting!
I read this on the Clark Yahoo group, great account...
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 09:40 PM
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2. Clark is my favorite candidate.
I like several others too, but this guy has been my dream candidate since I first heard the faintest rumblings that he might run. I know he could beat * hands down in a fair race. But, sad to say, I'm not sure we haven't already gone so far down the fascist police state road that this is possible.
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WillyBrandt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 09:40 PM
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3. Thank you for posting this
I really think our party is very lucky for having Clark out there running for President. This guy's one in a million.
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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 09:41 PM
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4. I have said all along Clark is my candidate of choice.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 09:49 PM
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5. Thanks for this. If he wins the Dem's Nomination for Pres then

I hope to Christ every Dem & Green & anyone who has the slightest

realization of just how criminal & amoral this current Administration is gets behind him 110%.

It will be the only chance we have to defeat the arrogant little smirking shit that currently is trespassing in the oval office.

If the Dem's & the like minded do not get together behind the Nominee then we are truly fucked. Rove will eat us for lunch & I'm not sure America can survive 4 more years of these lunatics & their idiot king.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 09:52 PM
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7. In one aspect, I agree
Though I have no reason to trust Clark, I suppose a closet repuke is better than Bushco*.

Heck, look at Norm Coleman.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 10:06 PM
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10. What the &%$#* does Norm Coleman have to do with Wes Clark?
:wtf:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 09:50 PM
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6. I don't hate him.
Hating him is vastly different from not being able to TRUST him.

I still think he's a proverbial Trojan Horse.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 09:52 PM
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8. Thanks for posting that
Yes...he is the real deal. I listened to the forum on cspan radio. What struck me is how much I learned about all three of the candidates there, that could never be discussed in that crazy 9 person forum. Also, no one was out playing gottcha. Sharpton's idea about light rail is wonderful.

And Clark...Clark is definately not a sound bite guy.

The moderator was great. Good questions and each of the three were able to answer so one could really see the differences between their positions.

I believe that Clark cancelled a San Fran. fundraiser with big bucks attached to make that appearance. The money would have been nice, but I was glad to hear what he had to say.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 10:03 PM
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9. Thanks for the post
I want this man on the ticket, first or second, but on the ticket.

This is how you get your veterans and NASCAR dads. Yet the man supports a rather liberal social program. This could work.
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WillyBrandt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 10:08 PM
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11. Exactly
A solid "real American" (yes, I hate that term) appearance and demeaor that brings progressive politics with it--and that brings the "NASCAR dads" to progressive politics.

What a deal!
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 10:10 PM
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12. But aren't our American hearts crying out for a solid American candidate?
OMG, just imagine how wonderful it would be if this incredible man actually became our next duly elected (since Clinton) president! :grouphug:
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WillyBrandt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 10:16 PM
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14. I will get so drunk when Clark is President
I am buying so many rounds for everyone.
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 10:14 PM
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13. Thanks for posting this
I got to spend a couple of days with him last week. I was overwhelmed by his warmth and his intense focus on really meeting people and listening to them, not just glad-handing and kissing babies. Definately GENUINE !




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saoirse Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 10:22 PM
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16. Great pics!
I can't wait till the General comes to the Northwest.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 10:23 PM
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17. I really never thought this country would get so lucky as to have him
actually announce his candidacy. I believed he might be recruited into a vice presidency roll, at the most. My husband and I are so overjoyed that he did announce, and that, at least in national polls, he's already so consistently ahead. I just hope to God that he gets the nomination. (I like Dean and every other Dem candidate except LIEberman, who'd I'd vote for anyway. But the real charasmatic leader who could beat that bastard * and give this country back its international standing, as well as institute progressive national policies, is definitely Clark)
Here's one big :hug: for the General!
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 10:19 PM
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15. fluff...and fluff with no link at that
i'm sure general clark is a great guy, but: c'mon already!
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saoirse Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 10:32 PM
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18. The excitement is real
I can remember as far back as Nixon-McGovern in 1972, and there has never been a candidate I've be so proud of, or so excited about. It's not just his resume, or his progressive policies, it's also the man himself - he has so much real character that's it's almost tangible.

It's just so freaking cool!
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 10:47 PM
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19. You lost me with the "divine providence" part.
Edited on Sun Oct-12-03 10:50 PM by maggrwaggr
And I really like Clark (and Dean).

Keep your feelings about God-chosen candidates to yourself. You'll do yourself a favor.

on edit: oops, saw that that wasn't YOU talking, somebody else. Oh well. Maybe he's reading it too. :)
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Kanola Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 10:49 PM
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20. Clark is my second choice of enthusiasm
and my last.

I am a Dean supporter but was dismayed at his attacks on Clark. Dean should know better. Dean and Clark however are in my opinion the best candidates to win againist Shrub
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 11:14 PM
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21. Clark seems almost too good to be true...
but maybe it's partly because of all the other drecks in public life.

Cream rises in a crisis, and we have one hell of a crisis in this country.



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