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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 06:17 PM
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NOW NOW NOW MORE THAN EVER!! (Don’t come bitchin’ to me later!)
We’ve been given a Golden Opportunity…..

Rockefeller gets to finish the Senate Intelligence Committee Report and HE KNOWS ABOUT PNAC!

The Dems made a bold move today and they deserve our support. We need to start educating the media so they can do their job. (Pitiful, but a reality nevertheless.) The door of opportunity is here and we need to kick it wide open. Bring the media up to speed and MAKE them LISTEN.


Dear Hardball:

The Democrat’s bold move to force completion of the Senate Intelligence Committee Report is historic. After the initial report was completed, Senator Jay Rockefeller said “It was clear to all of us in this room who were watching that, and to many others, that they had made up their mind that they were going to go to war. And I believe to this day, and I always have and I’ve said so publicly many times in regretting my vote, that there was a predetermination, even going back to 1998 in a letter to Bill Clinton, saying, "The time for diplomacy has ended and now is the time for the use of military force."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A38650-2004Jul9_3.html

The 1998 letter to President Clinton was issued by the Project for a New Century (PNAC). This is important because members of the PNAC have been seamlessly merged into the White House, Pentagon, World Bank and United Nations. ALL roads lead to PNAC! I urge you to carefully consider the link below since it offers context and perspective to current events and connects the remaining dots to the Big Picture that may not have been immediately obvious.

PNAC 101 - Rise of the Neocons
http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/PNAC_101

Recent excerpts from various media sources follow so you can fully appreciate the validity and pertinence of the PNAC aspect to the story.
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“In 1992, Libby and former Pentagon deputy Paul Wolfowitz wrote a paper favoring the use of pre-emptive force to prevent countries from developing weapons of mass destruction. The paper later won praise from the neoconservative Project for the New American Century, which called it "a blueprint for maintaining U.S. pre-eminence, precluding the rise of a great power rival."

Prosecutor, White House at Odds Over Libby - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051030/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cia_leak_reconstruction
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“Throughout the 1990s Libby -- along with Wolfowitz, Feith, Cheney, Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, and a slew of other leading defense and foreign policy officials -- clamored to finish the job they failed to complete in the 1991 Persian Gulf War: removing Saddam Hussein as the first step to installing Western-style democracy throughout the Middle East.

“In the late 1990s, Libby was among those associated with the Project for a New American Century, a think tank that publicly urged President Clinton to use military force to remove Hussein from power.

Indictments put focus on neoconservatives - http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/10/29/indictments_put_focus_on_neoconservatives/
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I. LEWIS "SCOOTER' LIBBY JR.

Founding member of the Project for a New American Century with Paul Wolfowitz, Dick Cheney, Jeb Bush and others, 1997.

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/10/29/Worldandnation/Libby__A_private_man_.shtml
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“The leader of the team was Libby, Cheney's chief of staff. Libby had studied at Yale with Paul Wolfowitz, who brought him to Washington. He co-authored a hawkish policy document with Wolfowitz in the Department of Defense for its head, Dick Cheney, after the Gulf War in 1992. When it was leaked, it embarrassed the first President Bush. Libby was a founding member of the Project for a New American Century in 1997 during the Clinton years, when many neoconservatives were out of office. The PNAC attempted to use the Republican-dominated Congress to pressure Clinton to take a more belligerent stance toward Iraq, and it advocated significantly expanding military spending and using U.S. troops as "gendarmes" in the aftermath of wars to "shape" the international security environment.

All the vice president's men
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/10/28/vice_president/index_np.html
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“Makiya's work provided ammunition for the neoconservatives who were seeking a role for the United States (and for themselves) after the Cold War. Robert Kagan was one of this group, William Kristol another, Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Perle two more. The glue of the group was a belief that the United States must exploit its enhanced, post-Soviet hegemony to refashion the politics of the planet in a democratic mold. Under the banner of the Project for a New American Century, they published an open letter to President Clinton in 1998 calling for regime change in Iraq.”

'We're an empire' -
http://www.boston.com/ae/books/articles/2005/10/30/were_an_empire/
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“The fifteen-month PR blitz conducted by the White House was a massive fraud designed to trick the public into accepting a goal that Bush's advisers had held even before the election. A strategy document Dick Cheney commissioned from the Project for a New American Century, written in September 2000, for example, asserts that "the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein." But, as the document reflects, the Administration hawks knew the public would not agree to an attack against Iraq unless there were a "catastrophic and catalyzing event--like a new Pearl Harbor."

The White House Criminal Conspiracy
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20051114/delavega/3
================================================

Bush’s electoral success originates from the coalition of neo-conservatives – such as Cheney and Rumsfeld, and their experience of government going back to the Reagan era – coupled with the fundamentalist Christian right-wing. Their foreign policy agenda – advocated by aggressive conservatives such as the former assistant secretary of defence, Richard Perle – was on hold until 9/11. Those attacks changed everything, with the “war on terror” opening up the opportunity for all the key players involved in the Project for a New American Century – such as Cheney, Rumsfeld, Perle and Wolfowitz – to “solve” the problem of the Middle East their way.

THE CHINKS IN THE NEOCON ARMOUR
http://www.sundayherald.com/52584
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I trust you'll have the integrity to inform your readers about PNAC and its importance as the underlying force behind current events.

Sincerely,


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HELP BLAST THIS TO THE MEDIA!!!


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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 06:19 PM
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1. kicked and recommended!
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 06:20 PM
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2. ditto!
:kick:
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DIKB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 06:22 PM
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3. Kicking and Recommending n/t
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 06:24 PM
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4. recommended! All Americans need to know about PNAC
Edited on Tue Nov-01-05 06:24 PM by cal04
this is long overdue
I had to show people at work this document.
Everyone needs to know
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IkeWarnedUs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 06:30 PM
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5. the only thing I would add
I would add links to the PNAC website:

PNAC site: http://www.newamericancentury.org/

Letter to Clinton: http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

PNAC Statement of Principles: http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm

Statement of Principals was the first item published and is signed by the founders of PNAC, including Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, I. Lewis Libby and Jeb Bush.

As powerful as your letter is (and it is great) it is even more powerful to hear (see) it in their own words with the list of signators on the same page.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 06:38 PM
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6. It's all included in PNAC 101
at the link in the OP. It's truly worth reading, no matter how much you already know about PNAC. It presents documentation suggesting PNAC/WH/Pentagon complicity in 911. It ties is ALL together!
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 07:18 PM
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7. self-serving kick
C'mon people...if you want media coverage, light some damn fires!
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 07:20 PM
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8. kicked and thank you ..and i sent to all my internet groups!! n/t
:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: recomended!!
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Cults4Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 07:25 PM
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9. This thread should get 100+ reccomendations. Moderates as well as Liberals
should understand this is no conspiracy theory it is conspiracy fact. It is what is wrong with America and if we dont take this oppurtunity and send it out to every media outlet and elected official then we are part of the problem.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 07:30 PM
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11. Don't worry
I'm going to be a real pain in the ass on this one and keep reposting and/or kicking until I convince everyone to pester the hell out of the media. I've been carrying this torch for a long time and I'm getting tired and could use some help in spreading the word.
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Cults4Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 07:46 PM
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13. I know Luna, I've been in the trenches with you on this one.
I'll be buying you some expensive drinks if we can get them to start talking PNAC now.

Shit, I've been surprised at how many press types have been using "neocon" (and not in a good way) over the last couple of weeks.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 04:35 AM
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23. But "neocon" is too generic
I won't be satisfied until they're identified by name. I want the PNAC recorded in the history books as the perpetrators of the most insidious, evil, and treasonous conspiracy this country has ever had the misfortune of experiencing. Nothing less will do.
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Cults4Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 07:53 AM
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25. Say it! Damn straight!
Nothing less will do, at all.

Call 'em out by their name Senator.

Neocon being to generic I agree with... was just happy they were using it at all :)
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 07:30 PM
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10. Recommended. Americans deserve the truth!!!
:yourock:
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 07:41 PM
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12. A quick and cheap letter fired off...
Edited on Tue Nov-01-05 07:43 PM by Gregorian
Hope it isn't too hokey. I just paraphrased your post. And a lot less. :)

Dear editor,

Today the Democrats made a brave decision to force the completion of the Senate Intelligence Committee Report. After over a year of sandbagging, Senator Ried decided that it was finally time to demand action to move forward and uncover the truth behind the leadup to the war in Iraq. Senator Rockefeller publically admitted that the dicision to go to war was already made up in many minds. And we know that is true from as far back as before Bush was elected in 2000. The list of facts is growing. It should be as no surprise to anyone by now, that there is a connection between the indictments handed up to Mr. Libby are connected to the war started by the Bush administration. I suggest people do some searching for the paper titled Project for the New American Century. It is not unrelated, and in fact is actively supported by more than just Mr. Libby. It is the blueprint by which we have found ourselves embroiled in the Middle East. It is no longer the thing of extreme thinking liberals. The situation we find ourselves in today is a grave danger for our country and for all Americans. Not just those of a political party. We owe it to the children who will inherit this country to be honest, and truthful. And it does not stop there. We owe it to the people who are under our military might. And to the people of the world. Our foreign policy is being watched by the entire world. It is time for the truth.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 07:50 PM
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14. Kick...I'll edit out the parts to send Tweety...so it looks individual and
send it. Thanks for this post!
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 09:26 PM
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15. Thanks
I've been pushing to expose PNAC for more than two years so I'm worn out and could definitely use some help. Your efforts are much appreciated.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 10:10 PM
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16. Remember when PNAC tried to get Clinton to attack Iraq back in 1998???
Clinton was smart enough to ignore them. Bush.. well.. he's not so smart. Here's the letter:


January 26, 1998

The Honorable William J. Clinton
President of the United States
Washington, DC

Dear Mr. President:

We are writing you because we are convinced that current American policy toward Iraq is not succeeding, and that we may soon face a threat in the Middle East more serious than any we have known since the end of the Cold War. In your upcoming State of the Union Address, you have an opportunity to chart a clear and determined course for meeting this threat We urge you to seize that opportunity, and to enunciate a new strategy that would secure the interests of the U.S. and our friends and allies around the world. That strategy should aim, above all, at the removal of Saddam Hussein’s regime from power. We stand ready to offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor.

more:
http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 02:24 AM
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18. check out
PNAC 101
http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/PNAC_101

It includes a reference to the Clinton letter and LOTS more! (Rigged election, Cheney energy task force, complicity in 911, pre-planned attack on Afghanistan, OSP etc.)

If you're not totally outraged at the end, then you haven't been paying attention.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 10:14 PM
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17. Wallace v. Bush Lawsuit... Check this out.
www.wallacevbushlawsuit.com

Check out the ancillary and companion effort: www.recallthecongress.com
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 02:52 AM
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19. Speaking of PNAC, today I saw PNAC godfather Bill Kristol
on TV. It's the first time I've ever seen him when he didn't have his little sneaky, ingratiating, cloying, smile on his wizened little face.

He looked troubled.

:headbang:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 02:54 AM
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20. The house of cards is starting to collapse
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:20 AM
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21. If there were any justice, Kristol would be in prison for treason!
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:43 AM
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22. I have a sense
that exposing the whole PNAC Grand Experiment and complicity in 911 (see link in my sig line) will have the populace screaming for the death penalty for those evil bastards. Their troubles are just beginning. Karma is a bitch!
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 05:58 AM
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24. Thanks for all the info and your "sense". Let it be, SOON ! n/t
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 08:04 AM
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26. excellent
K&R! :yourock:
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 09:16 AM
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27. There is no turning back now and the PNACers know it. Look for this:
because they control so much of our economy look for rising interest rates, rising inflation, rising unemployment in this country to punish the working men and women and those who support the Dems. There will be more calls for tax breaks so they can reap windfall profits. As most of them are well banked abroad, the suffering here at home, many enjoy dual citizenship with other countries and have their money invested in US corporations doing business abroad to avoid the taxes here. Lots of off-shore accounts can no doubt be traced directly to these countries and therefore their stock holders. We must rid our government of the officials who would seek to protect these neocon-PNACers and take our country back!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 09:23 AM
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28. Short on time so I copied your entire post...links and all and blasted.
and I didn't give you credit before I sent. I'm sorry. went to fast!
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 01:52 PM
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29. Don't need credit
Just need the info circulated! Thanks for helping (and please keep sending to anyone and everyone you can!)
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 02:42 PM
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30. Too important not to kick
Please send this to anyone and everyone you can think of...and I'll love you forever!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 03:02 PM
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31. .
:kick:
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bajamary Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 05:38 PM
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32. Excellent post
Thanks for the excellent post. Keep kicking and keep dreaming.

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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 06:17 PM
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33. Kick for the afternoon commuters.
And by the way, LunaC :yourock:
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 08:22 PM
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34. Kick and thank you! n/t
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 08:32 PM
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35. kick
mon plaisir

:kick:
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 02:25 AM
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36. Still working this thread
Time to get motivated, folks, and put those typing fingers to work...emails to local rags ain't that hard to do and you'll be doing your country a service...whatta' deal!







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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 05:55 AM
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37. Could you pick a show with less viewers?
Edited on Thu Nov-03-05 05:56 AM by JNelson6563
Oh wait, there aren't any. Oy!

If I wanted to tell the world something I doubt I'd try to do it through Tweety's show.
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