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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 05:33 AM
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Whistleass number below 50%
http://www.pollingreport.com/wh04gen.htm

Newsweek Poll conducted by Princeton Survey Research Associates. Oct. 9-10, 2003. N=826 registered voters nationwide. MoE ± 4.

"Suppose the next general election for president were being held TODAY and you had to choose between George W. Bush, the Republican, and , the Democrat -- who would you vote for?" If "Other" or "Undecided": "As of TODAY, do you LEAN more toward Bush, the Republican, or , the Democrat?"

Bush 47% vs Clark 43%
Bush 49% vs Dean 40%
Bush 48% vs Kerry 42%

"In general, would you like to see George W. Bush reelected to another term as president, or not?"

........... Yes / No / Don't Know

10/9-10/03 44 50 6
9/25-26/03 46 47 7
9/18-19/03 44 50 6
8/21-22/03 44 49 7
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 05:42 AM
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1. I must assume
Edited on Sun Oct-12-03 05:43 AM by elperromagico
... that the reason Clark, Kerry, and Dean are getting beaten in this theoretical match-up is because most Americans still don't know them.

I hope that as the Democratic field narrows, Bush's lead will narrow, and then finally disappear. The sooner we have 2 or 3 candidates instead of nine, the better.
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Ridley Park 704 Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 05:50 AM
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2. I agree.
To many people, the names Clark, Kerry, and Dean are unfamiliar. When the pollster calls and they don't know who they are, of course most will say, "Well gee, I better stick with Bush, because I don't know these others." But when they find out who they are at a later time, they will hopefully desert the Edsel for something better.
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Fitzovich Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 05:56 AM
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3. Polling Numbers
These numbers are exceptionally impressive for the dems considering there are 9 candidates and we are over a year from the election. W's popularity is falling on it's own without a designated nominee from the democratic party, just think what will happen when the field narrows and they don't have to worry about trying to get the nomination just beating W.

Things are looking good!
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 06:50 AM
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15. Hi Fitzovich!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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CoffeePlease1947 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 05:56 AM
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4. Clark and Kerry are within the margin of error +/- 4 points to beat Bush
It might be a good idea to choose one of them. I wonder what would happen if we started to throw in VP's to test how much higher they get.

Mike
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 05:58 AM
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5. Who would you suggest throwing in as a VP?
n/t
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 06:03 AM
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6. Top Dog or VP
Looking at the current field and numbers - it seems to me that Clark will need to be on the ticket in either spot

Have heard more than one repub, (who are pretty disgusted with the whistleass) that are at the least leaning towards Clark

Clark is just getting his political feet wet, we will have to see how he does over the next few weeks

In any event - the whistleass still has a few more "tricks" up his sleeves, like invading Syria or Iran just in time for the selection
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 06:06 AM
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7. Clark's military creds
might draw some Republicans over to our side.

But would Clark's ego allow him to accept the VP slot? Or would his sense of duty trump his ego?
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Speed8098 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 06:08 AM
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9. Clark/Edwards
Now that would be a good ticket.
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Noordam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 06:09 AM
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10. I think he would go for VP
He has been a General and second string all his life.

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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 06:20 AM
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12. I hope he is on the ticket
Edited on Sun Oct-12-03 06:21 AM by elperromagico
He's a dream candidate for our party. We haven't had such a high-ranking military man on a national ticket in a while.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 06:09 AM
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11. don't think Clark's ego would stop him from taking VP slot
More to the point it would probably depend on who asks him to be VP
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CoffeePlease1947 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 06:30 AM
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13. Not anyone else running except maybe
If Kerry gets the nom putting Clark on the bottom. Sticking one of the other nine would be a bad idea. Bush and his cronies already has lots of dirt on them. So if you choose someone they don't expect that would help the ticket would throw them off. However, I like the following people for VP:

Bill Richards-Current Governor of New Mexico, Former Secretary of Energy, and Ambassabor to the UN.
Strenghts: Would help carry the Hispanic vote: This would help in carrying NM, NV, California,Florida, and maybe Colorado, and slim in Arizona. It would also help in picking up Congressional seats in the Southwest.

Weaknesses: He is Hispanic and many people are prejudice against Hispanics. He also might be tagged with the Los Alomos incident, and maybe energy problems.


Senator Breaux: Senator from Louisiana.

Strenghts:
Would carry the state, and additional 9 electoral votes. The combination of two Southerns would also increase votes in more moderate and military districts in Florida. It could also help in picking up North Carolina and Mississippi that boarders both Arkansas and Louisiana.

Weakness: He is another Southerner. People may not like to many southerners on both tickets. Also, he may be too conservative to really balance the preception that Clark is too conservative.

Marcy Kapture: Congressmember from Ohio.

Putting a women on the ticket will bring in many female votes. She would also carry the state of Ohio. 21 additional electoral votes would help. In addition, it would soften the hardedged image of the General. Kapture is well respected by her collegues and her good looks would compliment Clark's good looks. The two would be a good match both to the eye and on the issues. I also think that she would increase the margin of votes in Michigan and Pennsylvania.

Weakness: She is a women. Many people don't want a female VP. She is also from Ohio. Lots of loyal Republicans that might have damaging information on her.

Others I would consider: Even Bayh, Graham, and Kent.

Not many others that would help Clark.

Mike


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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 06:08 AM
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8. Poll numbers holding steady, Bush Boys in Panic, trying all kinds
of shit including fake letters from the war zone to newspapers telling of the wonderful successes in Iraq.

As the Dem feild narrows to the ultimate nominee, Bushes numbers will most likely fall further.

Infighting in the Bush Boys Gang evident:: Precadan consumption going up, blame growing, anger management needed, and applications for transfers up.

Oh Vell, Vhat the hell??
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 06:38 AM
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14. I'm surprised

These numbers seem a little high for Bush, maybe by 2-3%, to me. He should, by trend, be at 45% or so. Maybe when that last 20% of the population tunes in on the Democrats....

I'll probably be amused at what Zogby's next survey says.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 08:29 AM
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16. *kick* for the sunday morning late risers (nt)
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