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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:32 AM
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Is anyone starting to doubt we'll see indictments?
I know the little sliver of doubt I'm feeling is probably just pessimism and disappointment since there will be no announcement today, but I'm worried that some sort of deal is being cut that will allow the "targets" to weasel out of legal trouble.

Let the hammer drop. PLEASE!

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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:34 AM
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1. If they squeal, it'll just mean bigger trouble for Cheney! n/t
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:36 AM
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8. I hope you're right! n/t
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:34 AM
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2. Are we sure there will be no indictments today?
Link, please?
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:35 AM
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7. It sounds like that's the case.
I saw David Schuster (sp?) on NBC, in front of the courthouse, saying his sources in Fitz's office report no announcement today.

I know the indictments may already be in the hopper and the announcement is just a formality, but I wanna know! :)
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:34 AM
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3. Weasel is what weasels do. I haven't been expecting indictments.
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Cactus44 Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:34 AM
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4. I think the delay is to allow time for the targets to squeal on

the bigger fish in exchange for a lighter sentence.

That's a good thing.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:37 AM
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11. I agree.
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:38 AM
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13. Okay, that's what I'm going with now.
I guess after waiting this long, through the entire investigation, waiting another day isn't so bad.

And I would much rather see Cheney on the hot seat, than Libby. Hmmm.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:34 AM
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5. No. Not Fitz.
:patriot:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:35 AM
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6. No
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:36 AM
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9. We don't KNOW that there will be no indictments today.
We don't KNOW anything.

I trust Fitzgerald to do the right thing. I am not worried. I am hopefully optimistic.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:37 AM
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10. No! Keep your chin up! When the news dumps,
it will be so sweeeeet!
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:37 AM
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12. The way I see it, the RepubliCONs are already facing consequences, and...
...whatever else happens is Fitzmas gravy.

B-)

NGU.


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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:39 AM
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14. Rove and Libby are goin' down
faster than Ann Coulter on a statue of Ronald McDonald.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 09:07 AM
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27. I just sprayed coffee all over my keyboard!! Thanks!
:spray:


:rofl:
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:40 AM
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15. Stephanie Miller just said Fitz is leasing more office space in DC
Can anybody confirm? This could only mean he's expanding the investigation
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:43 AM
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17. here's a link
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:42 AM
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16. I'm puzzled.
I don't understand the role of Fitz or the process and why it takes so long.

The press is just so rightwing and every day that BushInc operates just does more damage.

Sue
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:45 AM
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18. Fitz's history shows that he's smart, relentless and good at his job.
Plea bargains in exchange for testimony at this stage of a conspiracy investigation are par for the course. Flip the small fry, go for the big fish--that's how prosecutors work.
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 09:02 AM
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24. Very true. Good points. n/t
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:46 AM
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19. I was always cautiously optimistic - (nt)
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i_c_a_White_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:48 AM
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20. No
We will see indictments.

I also predicted Miers would be dropped to throw smoke in the air and more smoke when they name her replacement next monday.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:53 AM
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21. This news with Harriet Miers makes me think
that there will be indictments and that when they are handed down, shrub will appoint another Justice to take some of the heat of off these indictments. Harriet is stepping down right on cue....
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 09:04 AM
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26. There's no reason to think the SCOTUS would be involved, unless Bush
himself was in jeopardy as a result of Plamegate. And if he was, wouldn't he want Miers, his personal ass-licker, on the bench to pprotect him? That makes more sense to me. Miers was a major blunder. Bushco is coming apart at the seams.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 09:23 AM
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29. I mean that they would be involved only
in the sense of what would be newsworthy? The indictments are going to be major news, if one wanted to take the air out of it's tires, it would be a good time for shrub to appoint his next wacko for SCOTUS.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 09:34 AM
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30. dupe
Edited on Thu Oct-27-05 09:36 AM by smoogatz
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 09:35 AM
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31. I think it's a mistake to think of the Fitzgerald probe as primarily
a media event--though that's the unfortunate tendency around here. Fitz seems to like working under the radar as much as possible; fine with me, as long as somebody does the frog march when it's all said and done.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 09:43 AM
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32. It already is a media event
Like it or not, it is already the talk of everyone although Harriet Miers resignation is stealing the show just as they planned. I think this administration will do what it can to take the heat off of any indictments...
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:26 AM
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34. It is, but that's just the mayo on the BLT.
The substance of Fitz's work is far more important than the media coverage, IMO--which will at first not get it, then beat it into the ground. I'm in it for the frog march.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:55 AM
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22. You are silly! n/t
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 09:01 AM
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23. I've been called worse :) n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 09:02 AM
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25. Hell no!
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 09:11 AM
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28. Nope, and this is why.......
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/story/359712p-306469c.html


Buzz about a Karl plea
as probers close in



BY THOMAS M. DeFRANK, KENNETH R. BAZINET and JAMES GORDON MEEK
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU

WASHINGTON - Jittery Bush aides gnawed their nails yesterday as a special prosecutor zeroed in on White House political guru Karl Rove's role in blowing a CIA agent's cover.
In the closing hours of the grand jury probe, special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald paid a visit yesterday to Rove's lawyer, Robert Luskin, prompting speculation that a plea bargain could be in the works for the deputy White House chief of staff.

It was the latest of several one-on-one meetings between Fitzgerald and Luskin, the Daily News has learned.

Investigators also turned up at the White House for yet another round of questions for Rove's subordinates



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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 09:46 AM
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33. No.
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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:28 AM
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35. No, I don't doubt we'll see indictments...
...what I'm really wondering about is how long until we see pardons. :(
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:31 AM
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36. I've been fearing it from the beginning. I have become
astoundingly afraid to get my hopes up after five years of the Bush Administration shitting on the Constitution and the U.S. legal code.
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