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varun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 08:38 AM
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The Muslim refusenik
The Muslim refusenik
Meet the young Canadian who wants to prove that Islam and her Western ways are compatible

By MARGARET WENTE
Saturday, September 20, 2003 - Page A27


Imagine a world in which every Christian is taught to believe that the Bible is the literal word of God, delivered directly to His prophet. Religious education largely consists of memorizing the Holy Book uncritically. People are taught that their faith, being perfect, is superior to all others, and those who question it are accused of apostasy.

In this world, supposedly devout Christians engage in terrorism in the name of God. Some of them believe that they can achieve sainthood by blowing themselves up in restaurants and killing enemy children. These people attract worldwide sympathy from other Christians. Scholars are divided on whether such acts are justified by the Bible, but the Archbishop of Canterbury endorses it.

In this Christian society, homosexuals are reviled and women are unequal. Women must generally obtain the consent of men to marry or go to university, and can be punished or killed (sometimes legally, sometimes not) for crimes against the family honour. Hundreds of millions of Christians around the world are obsessed with a tiny sect of people who occupy a sliver of land the size of New Jersey. They blame these people for many of their problems.

When outsiders are critical, Christians accuse them of prejudice. They argue that violence committed in the name of God is not, at any rate, the true Christianity. Their faith has been hijacked by a small group of fanatics. Theirs is a religion of tolerance and peace; the Bible proves it. When Christians themselves are critical, they are likely to be ignored or vilified, or even threatened with death.

And that's why Irshad Manji is a brave woman.

Ms. Manji is a blazingly articulate young Canadian Muslim. Her subject, of course, is not Christianity but Islam, and her new book, The Trouble with Islam, is a loud, clear call for honesty and reform. It is wry, blunt and irreverent, but never bitter. As a thought experiment, I summarized her main criticisms of Islam and then substituted Christianity, a faith with which I'm more familiar. It was unnerving. If Ms. Manji is right in her critique (and I believe she is), then Islam badly needs a reformation.

"Mohammed said that how we behave is Islam," she says. "It doesn't matter what the Koran says. It's about what's happening on the ground. And we have to ask ourselves: Why have so many Muslims chosen hate?"

Ms. Manji's book is as much about her own personal journey as it is a call for honesty and change. Her family emigrated from Uganda to Vancouver, where she grew up. A strong-minded girl, she had a habit of questioning authority of all kinds. At 14, she was kicked out of the madrassa for giving the teacher a hard time. After that she set out to learn about her religion for herself, a journey that consumed her off and on for years. She questioned, probed, explored, and eventually concluded that although much needs to change, Islam is not inherently incompatible with pluralistic western values. Ironically, she points out, such inquiry is only possible in the West. Today, at 35, she describes herself as a practising Muslim, a lesbian and a feminist.

Not surprisingly, the Muslim establishment regards Ms. Manji as nothing but trouble. "Born-agains and self-haters: Muslims have them too" begins a recent press release issued by the Canadian Islamic Congress, a mainstream group. "Most self-hating Muslims claim to practise their faith. They call themselves liberal, moderate, and contemporary . . . self-hating Muslims secretly (or not so secretly) despise their religion and curse the day their parents gave them Muslim names. When self-hating Muslims write books or op-ed articles, they have little or nothing good to say about Islam and its nearly two billion global adherents. They attribute every failure of Muslims in both the past and present to the beliefs of Islam, the teachings of the Koran, or the sayings of the Prophet."

Ms. Manji admits that if the faith cannot reform itself, she may have to leave. But first, she wants to see if it is capable of letting in some oxygen. She points to a tradition of self-criticism and introspection in Islam that she hopes can be revived. And she hopes that her book (which also is being published in the U.S., England, Germany and France) will help to rally the silent moderates who have not had a voice, or the courage, or the words to speak out.

She is immensely buoyed by the response so far. True, she has been getting the usual e-mail from Muslims who accuse her of being in the pocket of the Zionists. True, the Toronto Star has been full of letters denouncing her for Islamophobia. But many people, calling into phone-in shows, or responding to her website (http://www.muslim-refusenik.com), have expressed their heartfelt thanks.

"What has happened to us?" a woman named Saira wrote her this week. "Why have so many turned inward, isolating themselves from the so-called 'evil West'? . . . Yeah, injustices have been done, country against country, no doubt about that. But are we just going to hold onto that resentment and hate for the rest of our lives?"

The price to pay for dissent is often personal. Ms. Manji and her father are no longer on speaking terms. ("Maybe we will be again some day," she says hopefully.) Nor is the Muslim establishment the only group that has repudiated her. "I've been told many times I'm not a member of the left any more," she says. (She calls herself neither left-wing nor right-wing but "post-wing.") There is a verse from the Koran she likes. It goes: "Believer, conduct yourselves with justice and bear true witness before God, even though it be against yourselves, your parents or your kinsfolk." Ms. Manji is appalled by the selective blindness of the left, which generally blames the West for the problems of the Middle East. "I'm stunned by the way the political tradition from which I come has abdicated responsibility for universal human rights," she says. "They wax eloquent that Islamic societies have their own form of democracy. But please ask them how these places treat women, how they treat Jews? They love to dissect Israel -- but to the exclusion of Saudi Arabia? How can they morally live with themselves?"

Ms. Manji wants to have it all -- just the way most Christians do, I guess. She aspires to be both a faithful Muslim and a faithful Westerner, living in a world that cherishes pluralism, dissent, critical thinking, equality and, yes, tolerance, and where these values do not clash with her religion. She also argues that Muslims must shed their anti-Semitism, which is astonishingly widespread.

If she is to achieve her goal, it is Islam and not the West that will have to change. "The West has saved my faith in my faith," she says. "Now it's up to Islam to redeem itself."

mwente@globeandmail.ca
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varun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 09:02 AM
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1. her website...
...
http://www.muslim-refusenik.com/

is even more fascinating.
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Devils Advocate NZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 09:21 AM
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2. Hmmm...
Imagine a world in which every Christian is taught to believe that the Bible is the literal word of God, delivered directly to His prophet. Religious education largely consists of memorizing the Holy Book uncritically. People are taught that their faith, being perfect, is superior to all others, and those who question it are accused of apostasy.

In this world, supposedly devout Christians engage in terrorism in the name of God. Some of them believe that they can achieve sainthood by blowing themselves up in restaurants and killing enemy children. These people attract worldwide sympathy from other Christians. Scholars are divided on whether such acts are justified by the Bible, but the Archbishop of Canterbury endorses it.

In this Christian society, homosexuals are reviled and women are unequal. Women must generally obtain the consent of men to marry or go to university, and can be punished or killed (sometimes legally, sometimes not) for crimes against the family honour. Hundreds of millions of Christians around the world are obsessed with a tiny sect of people who occupy a sliver of land the size of New Jersey. They blame these people for many of their problems.

When outsiders are critical, Christians accuse them of prejudice. They argue that violence committed in the name of God is not, at any rate, the true Christianity. Their faith has been hijacked by a small group of fanatics. Theirs is a religion of tolerance and peace; the Bible proves it. When Christians themselves are critical, they are likely to be ignored or vilified, or even threatened with death.


No need to imagine, that is EXACTLY the kind of "world" the US is right now! After all, there are murders and bombings of abortion clinics, there are demands to display the Ten Commandments in courthouses, homosexuals are reviled, and women are unequal...

Hell, change the word "Christian" to "Jewish", and you have a perfect description of Israel!

So why is it that the Muslims are to blame?
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Taxi Driver Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 09:25 AM
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3. That's incorrect actually. Israel is a secular state
Israel is more socially liberal than the United States.
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Devils Advocate NZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 11:10 AM
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9. Uh huh...
Well, if it isn't a theocracy, then it must be racist, becuase Jews get more rights than non-Jews, and they are being given those rights either because of their religion or because of their race.

So which is it, theocracy or apartheid?
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Taxi Driver Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 12:08 PM
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17. apartheid. n/t
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Taxi Driver Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 09:28 AM
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4. It says in the Koran...
that those who try to pick and choose what parts of the Koran to ignore are going against Islam.

Therefore Manji is not a true Muslim if she can just pick and choose what aspects of Islam are "dated".
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 09:47 AM
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5. Funny, I don't remember anything in the Qur'an
saying we should hate. The Qur'an that I have read teaches tolerance and patience. It teaches respect for other people of The Book, which includes the Torah and the Bible. Every sura (chapter) of the Qur'an, save one, begins, "In the name of God, Who is Mercy and Compassion." There are sect of Islam that preach the opposite of what the Beloved Prophet recited, but that doesn't mean that all Muslims agree with them, any more than all Christians agree with what right-wing fundamentalists say.

For more information on a Sufi view of Islam, please check out my friend's website, which includes a section called The Honey of Islam: http://www.bridgebetweenworldviews.com/bbwvw.html

Here are some excerpts, copied here with permission of the author:

Who would think from the current publicity that tolerance, love, compassion, beauty, wisdom, and even humor exist at the very core of Islamic teaching? And yet they do.

Because individuals from both outside and inside Islam who attempt to define it as narrow-minded bigotry, soul-destroying joylessness, or suicidal violence have seized the megaphone, the rest of us—ordinary and the not-so-ordinary Muslims and their well-wishers—must begin, or continue, to speak out.

Within Islam’s basic sources, the Qur’an and the sunnah and ahadith (actions and sayings of the Prophet Muhammed, peace and blessing be upon him), is a spirit some would find surprising.

“What actions are most excellent?” asks one hadith. “To gladden the heart of a human being, to feed the hungry, to help the afflicted, to lighten the sorrow of the sorrowful, and to remove the wrong of the injured.”

There's lots more there, and I urge all people intersted in exploring all aspects of Islam to read it.

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Taxi Driver Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 10:03 AM
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6. I never said the Koran teaches hate
Why do you make assumptions? The Koran says that some people will try to make their own laws and ignore certain laws in the Koran and that doing so is wrong.

Are you denying this? Majdi can't redefine Islam.
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varun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 10:24 AM
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7. I dont think you read the article
what Irshad Manji is concerned with is the current state of Islam and its followers.

She is not critical of the Quran.
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Taxi Driver Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 11:16 AM
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10. Well what Manji says doesn't really make sense
She wants Muslims to embrace the West? There are certain rules in Islam that are not compatible with "Western values". That's no big secret. she is a lesbian?
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varun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 11:20 AM
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11. I dont think she's saying...
..embrace the west.

What she is asking is for some "soul searching"...to critically think where the muslim world is headed.

BTW, there is as much incompatibility between homosexuality and Islam, as between Christianity and Islam.

I, as a gay man (not muslim) know several gay and lesbian muslims.
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Taxi Driver Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 11:26 AM
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13. you are right, homosexuality is not compatible with Islam
But what the hell is the "soul searching"? What does the Muslim world need to search? I just don't get it.
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varun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 12:05 PM
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16. the muslim world needs voices of dissent...
...just like Ms. Manji's.

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Taxi Driver Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 12:17 PM
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18. Who are you to say what the Muslim world needs?
You are a gay nonMuslim. So how can you make statements like that?
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varun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 12:25 PM
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19. why cant I say something?
Dont I have the freedom of speech?

I understand if you disagree with me.
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 01:43 PM
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22. Jews adapted to their new nations
Muslims in the West should too. Most will.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 10:59 AM
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8. Correction
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varun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 11:23 AM
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12. I did not see anything...
...about homosexuality in this website.

Ms. Manji is a lesbian, and I'm sure her view of Islam has been tinged by the "intolerance" of the Islamic society against gays and lesbians.
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 01:46 PM
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23. Islam says Muslims shouldn't be friends with Christians or Jews
Edited on Sat Oct-11-03 02:04 PM by _Jumper_
Is that tolerance????

Religion is fundamentally intolerant. Think about it. If you don't buy into their book of fables you will suffer for eternity.
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sujan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 11:35 AM
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14. The Message of Prophet Muhammad
The character of Prophet Muhammad has been misrepresented, not only by many prejudiced non-Muslim critics, but also by the violent, ambitious, and worldly-minded faithful Muslims as well.

<...>

He also instilled love of knowledge in the Arab people. His inspiration soon transformed Arabia from a backward Bedouin-inhabited desert area into the political and cultural hub of Eurasia for four centuries, marked by advancement of sciences and learning, trade and commerce, and dynamic international contacts. This is the period when the universal spiritual message of Islam and its rational and scientific temper dominated the Muslim mind, which endowed them with an insatiable spirit of curiosity, which inspired them to learn from contemporary civilizations like the Indian, the Chinese, and the Greco-Roman, and which stimulated them to advance science, philosophy, and the arts in many directions.


http://www.hinduism.co.za/islam-.htm
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Taxi Driver Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 11:59 AM
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15. Two questions
1. Why do you have a picture of Joe Lieberman?

2. Why do you get information on Islam from a Hindu website?

I don't know how the character of Mohamed has been misrepresented by faithful Muslims.
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 01:14 PM
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20. The reputation of al Rasul, allallahu 'alaihi wa sallam
has certainly been tarnished by people claiming to be faithful Muslims. The various flavors of 'religious police' completely violate Muhammad's (pbuh) injunction to the faithful to mind their own business, for example.
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 01:32 PM
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21. Christianity and Judaism have modernized
She is just hoping to modernize Islam.

Let's face it. Religion is a fraud. What worked in the deserts of Arabia in 600 A.D. will not work in the bustling cities of Canada or America in 2003.
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