U.S. troops not leaving Iraq; "large numbers for years". DRAFT TIME!

[LynnTheDem]

Continuing violence and instability are likely to force President bush's successor to keep large numbers of troops in Iraq, despite the recent passage of the Iraqi constitution and other political progress, a leading military think thank said Tuesday.

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/special_packages/iraq/12992283.htm

ENLIST, warmongering bushbots! You, your kids, and your grandkids. After all, Rice said it would only be "LESS THAN 50 YEARS.

[wtmusic]

1. Didn't Rummy say it would be "months, at the most" at one point?

Liars. Stupid Liars.

[LynnTheDem]

3. "6 days, 6 weeks...6 months, I doubt that"

Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.

Dick Cheney
Speech to VFW National Convention
August 26, 2002

Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons.

George "aWol" Bush
Speech to UN General Assembly
September 12, 2002

If he declares he has none, then we will know that Saddam Hussein is once again misleading the world.

Ari Fleischer
Press Briefing
December 2, 2002

We know for a fact that there are weapons there.

Ari Fleischer
Press Briefing
January 9, 2003

"25,000 liters of anthrax ... 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin ... materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent ... upwards of 30,000 munitions capable of delivering chemical agents ... several mobile biological weapons labs ... thousands of Iraqi security personnel ... at work hiding documents and materials from the U.N. inspectors."

George "aWol" Bush
State of the Union Address
January 28, 2003

We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more.

Colin Powell
Remarks to UN Security Council
February 5, 2003

We have sources that tell us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons -- the very weapons the dictator tells us he does not have.

George "aWol" Bush
Radio Address
February 8, 2003

So has the strategic decision been made to disarm Iraq of its weapons of mass destruction by the leadership in Baghdad? . . . I think our judgment has to be clearly not.

Colin Powell
Remarks to UN Security Council
March 7, 2003

Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.

George "aWol" Bush
Address to the Nation
March 17, 2003

Well, there is no question that we have evidence and information that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical particularly . . . all this will be made clear in the course of the operation, for whatever duration it takes.

Ari Fleisher
Press Briefing
March 21, 2003

There is no doubt that the regime of Saddam Hussein possesses weapons of mass destruction. And . . . as this operation continues, those weapons will be identified, found, along with the people who have produced them and who guard them.

Gen. Tommy Franks
Press Conference
March 22, 2003

I have no doubt we're going to find big stores of weapons of mass destruction.

Defense Policy Board member Kenneth Adelman
Washington Post, p. A27
March 23, 2003

One of our top objectives is to find and destroy the WMD. There are a number of sites.

Pentagon Spokeswoman Victoria Clark
Press Briefing
March 22, 2003

We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.

Donald Rumsfeld
ABC Interview
March 30, 2003

Obviously the administration intends to publicize all the weapons of mass destruction U.S. forces find -- and there will be plenty.

Neocon scholar Robert Kagan
Washington Post op-ed
April 9, 2003

I think you have always heard, and you continue to hear from officials, a measure of high confidence that, indeed, the weapons of mass destruction will be found.

Ari Fleischer
Press Briefing
April 10, 2003

We'll find them. It'll be a matter of time to do so.

George "aWol" Bush
Remarks to Reporters
May 3, 2003

I'm absolutely sure that there are weapons of mass destruction there and the evidence will be forthcoming. We're just getting it just now.

Colin Powell
Remarks to Reporters
May 4, 2003

We never believed that we'd just tumble over weapons of mass destruction in that country.

Donald Rumsfeld
Fox News Interview
May 4, 2003

I'm not surprised if we begin to uncover the weapons program of Saddam Hussein -- because he had a weapons program.

George "aWol" Bush
Remarks to Reporters
May 6, 2003

U.S. officials never expected that "we were going to open garages and find" weapons of mass destruction.

Condoleeza Rice
Reuters Interview
May 12, 2003

Before the war, there's no doubt in my mind that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical. I expected them to be found. I still expect them to be found.

Gen. Michael Hagee, Commandant of the Marine Corps
Interview with Reporters
May 21, 2003

Given time, given the number of prisoners now that we're interrogating, I'm confident that we're going to find weapons of mass destruction.

Gen. Richard Myers, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff
NBC Today Show interview
May 26, 2003

For bureaucratic reasons, we settled on one issue, weapons of mass destruction (as justification for invading Iraq) because it was the one reason everyone could agree on.

Paul Wolfowitz
Vanity Fair interview
May 28, 2003

But for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them.

--George W. Bush
Interview with TVP Poland
5/30/2003

You remember when Colin Powell stood up in front of the world, and he said Iraq has got laboratories, mobile labs to build biological weapons ...They're illegal. They're against the United Nations resolutions, and we've so far discovered two...And we'll find more weapons as time goes on And we'll find more weapons as time goes on.

--George W. Bush
Press Briefing
5/30/2003

[classof56]

2. And leave my grandkids alone!!!!

Sorry...just got their school pictures. They're 11 and 8, beautiful boys (don't tell them I said that!). Their 17-year-old sister (my stepgranddaughter) is gorgeous. Now I hear that their 37-year-old father is not too old to fight. I agree, LynnTheDem--let the bushbots go and fight this war. I'm sure none of them are either too young or too old. Sign up now, you chickenhawks. And I repeat: Leave. My. Grandkids. Alone!!!

Tired Old Cynic

[tx_dem41]

4. Lynn, a lot of young men and women that aren't "warmongering...

Bushbots" are enlisting in the armed services for a lot of reasons. Career opportunities, money for future education, and pride in service to the country. You might disagree on the pride one, but the ones I have talked to really don't have a lot of political biases one way or the other.

[LynnTheDem]

5. Yes I realize that. But ALL warmongering bushbot bastards

should walk their fucking ignorant bullshit talk and sign up to DIE for their bush-god's steaming pile of BULLSHIT.

[tx_dem41]

6. I would never wish death upon anyone, much less someone...

serving in the Armed Forces. As a military family member I would hope you would agree with that.

[LynnTheDem]

11. I've attended too fucking many funerals the past 3 years to give a shit

anymore what the fuck happens to warmongering bastards. Let THEM go die for a fucking politician's pack of fucking lies.

[tx_dem41]

12. I've had a couple of friends and co-workers ...

die over there as well. But, that has strengthened my determination to not take my political feelings out on the military service members that are out there serving. I knew them well, and they weren't "warmongering Bushbots". They were like most military members...kids caught up in a war. Were the three service members whose funerals you attended "warmongering Bushbots"?

[LynnTheDem]

13. No they weren't warmongering bastards. 23 funerals, not 3.

23 funerals in the past 3 YEARS.

I DO NOT CARE what happens to ANY warmongering bushbots. They want war, they chant KILL KILL KILL? They chant "Give war a chance"? FINE. They can sign up and go die for their bush-god's bullshit.

Period.

[tx_dem41]

14. Like I said earlier, I work with enlisted military on a daily basis...

and I have yet to meet a "warmongering Bushbot" after 18 years of it...but I don't doubt you have.

I just urge you to not let your hatred of Bush make you lose the humanity and compassion of which we are all capable. You will come back and say that you do feel compassion for innocent Iraqis, and I don't doubt that. But, IMO, you are losing compassion for the U.S. innocents that are caught up in a situation that they have very little control over.

[LynnTheDem]

16. LAST time; I said warmongering bushbots need to SIGN UP.

I never said CURRENT military.

I won't be changing my feelings.

Have a nice day.

[tx_dem41]

17. I hope you have a nice day too.

And, I mean that sincerely, Lynn.

[4MoreYearsOfHell]

7. Right on Lynn

by enabling George the Lesser, they have made it THEIR war as well. Send their kids AND the armchair quarterbacks...

[tx_dem41]

10. So, if you are the 18 yo son/daughter of a "warmongering Bushbot"...

you HAVE to go to Iraq, in your just world? One question....why?

The person in question is an adult, able to make their own decision, right? Are they responsible for the political stances of their parents?

[4MoreYearsOfHell]

21. They wanted it, they got it...

it's theirs, let them fight it...

[mmonk]

8. Permanent bases

That was the original plan. Anyone who keeps claiming more troops wants more war. This isn't rocket science, just politics and political speech.

[GreenPartyVoter]

9. Yep, they want to leave us there like they did in Korea

[RepublicanElephant]

15. "draft time" = "canada time"...

...either that or my hetero kids suddenly "come out" and loud.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

18. Years? Not if the "failed insurgency" and the Iraqi people have any say.

Most of the Iraqi people support attacks on American troops. The majority want to see our backs.

Ever so slowly the American people are beginning to understand that this miserable slaughter had/has nothing to do with their security and a lot to do with ambitious politicians waving the flag and sending troops off to kill and die for nothing.

[maxsolomon]

19. iraq is the trap * has set for the next dem president

pull out & it defines your presidency as a failure for use by the GOP in 2012.

don't pull out, and you lose the democratic base in 2012.

clark better be figuring his way out of that pickle yesterday.

[NNadir]

20. We hope to get our 11 year old son out of the country.

I don't want him to die in the Halliburton cake walk.