Ldotters "celebrate" Rosa Parks (only as they can)

[carrowsboy]

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Reply 2 - Posted by: NoLibsNoLies, 10/24/2005 10:56:51 PM

Sorry to sound crass, but I fear this is an opportunity for The First Black President And His Pretend Wife to bite their lips and wipe a tear in unison.

BTW, I saw "Barbershop."


Reply 6 - Posted by: Zarin, 10/24/2005 11:25:42 PM

May she rest in peace. And yes, she was courageous. I, however will take with a grain of salt all the lauds about how she 'spontaneously' decided to sit in front of the bus. It is well documented and in several books that she and Rev. King were part of a group that were very well organized - ready & waiting for the opportunity to challenge the 'back of the bus' rule. They attended several weekend workshops up in the hills sponsored by some 'peace orgainization' - off hand I would say it was Saul Alinsky's group - but I'm not sure. When Rosa refused to go to the back of the bus - the word went out immediately via a phone 'tree' so all the community was ready to act.


Reply 9 - Posted by: jond, 10/25/2005 12:17:55 AM

Glad to see I'm not the only heretic here. The image of the 'simple black woman'
strikes me as racist, as if AAs were untouched and unfamiliar with anything beyond
pickin cotten, raisin chilluns, an cookin pancakes fo the massa.


Reply 10 - Posted by: paiso, 10/25/2005 12:25:33 AM

Of course it was organized and staged and was not a singular act of courage. It's amazing how many people fell for the excess adulation given to her for taking on the challenge alone. Let her RIP in reality and the history books.


Reply 11 - Posted by: Orion, 10/25/2005 12:34:51 AM

Rosa Parks was a secretary for a local civil rights group and staged the event that got her arrested. That being said, what she did really was courageous for the times when civil rights activists were being hunted down and killed by the Klan.


Reply 14 - Posted by: gator, 10/25/2005 2:10:19 AM

Now comes the pack vultures (Jackson, Sharpton, NAACP, etc, etc) to fatten their wallets on her remains.


Reply 19 - Posted by: dwots, 10/25/2005 3:28:07 AM

Now we git to re-name another street in every town in the USA


Reply 20 - Posted by: steveW, 10/25/2005 5:43:59 AM

We should remember that "civil rights" means something radically different to our friends on the Left. To them it means their "right" to force socialism on the nation, their "right" to force sameness of outcome (not equality of opportunity), their "right" to weaken or destroy marriage and the family so the State takes over those functions, and their "right" to punish success and reward failure. When they claim to celebrate Rosa Parks, those are the inverted values they'll really be celebrating, not the true civil rights we all cherish.


Reply 22 - Posted by: veryrightofcenter, 10/25/2005 6:27:37 AM

I wonder if any of the people who sat in front of abortion clinics and refused to move and got arrested will ever be glorified as much as this woman has been.

Civil rights for unborn babies!

[Dogmudgeon]

They're the cream -- or should I say, the PUS -- of the Freepers

--p!

[TallahasseeGrannie]

1. I love the fact

that some things are predictable. The sun will come up. The leaves will fall. Idiots will always be idiots and mean spirited idiots won't change, either.

I don't care if she was a paid mercenary. Rosa Parks was courageous and from interviews I have seen, a dear, lively, intelligent and lovely woman. I am honored to have shared space on the earth with her.

[kikiek]

2. Why do you call them Ldotters? I don't see any connection there.

[jmowreader]

4. Ldotters and freepers are basically the same people

Arguably one is more insane than the other, but neither one contains people you should let out in public.

Ldotters post primarily on lucianne.com.
FReepers post primarily on Free Republic.

I'm certain that a lot of people are subscribed to both groups, but whether you're a FReeper or an ldotter depends on which one you post the most at.

[kikiek]

5. Ok..being of Swedish heritage I was concerned.

Men used their father's name and added son. Women were fathers name and dotter. Thanks for clarifying that.

[cloudythescribbler]

3. comments on Rosa Parks

The key issue to remember about Rosa Parks, in light of various tendencies to rewrite her heroic role in history and to subtly distort it, is that she was always an activist, part of a team, part of a movement and not just someone who spontaneously happened to be too tired to get up.

The spontaneity idea, found in folk songs and exaggerated to varying degrees in movies about her, belies a richer if less readily comfortable truth that she was long a leading activist for Civil Rights, being pictured in a famous foto of Civil Rights leaders in the 40s on the Lincoln Memorial, and having trained at the famous organizers' school in rural Tennessee where Dr King also trained.

There was a case, before Rosa Parks, of a younger person who had been arrested for a similar offense that she ultimately stepped up to the plate to do; but this case was marred by the potential whiff of (subjectively defined) scandal in a the crucially culturally conservative middle class leadership of black Montgomery. Rosa Parks was selected, hand picked by her colleagues, as the perfect test case. She was frail, not young, and had a squeaky clean record. There was nothing anyone could say about her that would disturb the most hidebound of conservative preachers. No beads or lesbian liberation or anything like that -- it was self-conscious respectability all the way. That's how the Civil Rights movement organized, it is how they thought, and it is how they won.

Her role as an organizer fulfilling a role may be less cinematic than some images, but it reminds us of the reality that only careful planning and strategic thinking ever got the greatest citizens' movement of the last half-century anywhere. Talk to any veteran of the Civil Rights movement -- I don't mean people like my parents who participated (as whites) at the fringe. I mean the day to day full time organizers and leaders. They don't reason from cachet; they don't get caught up in this weeks inside-the-beltway gossip. They don't nurture pie-in-the-sky notions that have no possible relevance or impact on ordinary people's lives. And they are not naive about the nature of power or organizing. I have my differences with that approach to politics (mine is a lot less orthodox), but theirs is a way that cannot but be respected, and brought to bear every time we see the wisdom that those organizers had as a matter of course lacking all around us.

Rosa Parks was an organizer whose actions were undertaken in the coldest and savvyest of pragmatic calculations, for the good of freedom on the part of people who were in the struggle for the long haul. To honor her, we must never forget or slight that truth.

[RandomKoolzip]

6. Great post.

I still have no damned clue why the modern left looks down on discipline and tight organization. We would do well to study the methods of the original civil rights groups these days and update them for the more technology-savvy age.