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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:22 PM
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Accesory to Murder or Murder could that be on the Indictments
Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 09:28 PM by lovuian
It hasn't been talked about on the News Media but does Fitz have that in his back pocket!!!

How many agents were killed when exposed by Cheney & Rove & Bush???
When they exposed the B& J and did Judith Miller take part in Kelly's death!!! Does Fitz know something here!!! This maybe the trump card!!!

aren't they accesory to Murder???

Tucker said on Chris Mathews show we may see a charge nobody expected!!!!!!

Could this be it???
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:23 PM
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1. I could believe negligent homicide. n/t
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:25 PM
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2. is that a crime???
:bounce:
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:27 PM
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6. Yes. Even more of a crime than getting a blowjob. n/t
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:31 PM
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9. Really what about Manslaughter Incompetent
kinda like when a drunk runs into poor unsuspecting driver???
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:25 PM
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3. I have wondered about this all along
I know I read early on that several agents had been killed when Plame was outed. Does anyone else remember this?
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:27 PM
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7. Tenet must have had proof thats why the investigation was so
important!!!
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:26 PM
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4. I have been thinking the same thing lately.
What really frosts me is that a) she was a women b) there all good christians claimming pro life. Big tough man outting a woman and putting her life in danger.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:26 PM
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5. Spelling Police
Attention!!!


It's "Accessory"

spell check is your friend
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:29 PM
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8. Thanks for the reminder!!!
Your great!!! I was murdering the word!!!
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KerryOn Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:41 PM
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14. So does it make a difference?
We all new what the word was.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:20 PM
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25. I'm glad you new
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I figured you were new because I haven't seen you around before.

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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:34 PM
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10. or Felony Murder
If anyone is killed in the commission of a felony, the criminal is responsible for the death, even if the criminal did not actually pull the trigger.

For example, if there is a bank robbery and a policeman shoots at the robber but misses and kills a teller, the robber can be charged with felony murder. By way of the original felony, the robber initiated the chain of events that led directly to the killing.

That works for me!
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:36 PM
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12. Texas Lawyer what if these people exposed B&J knowingly
for their own purposes even though they didn't realize at the time Deaths would result!!! I bet Fitz told this tosome of them and scared the livin daylights out of them!!!
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:34 PM
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11. ok how about Wanton Endangerment???
Whose responsible all these people who exposed Plame???
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:39 PM
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13. Wow. Well, Fitz would have to know exactly what happened
after Brewster Jennings was exposed. Or enough of it to make the charge. And we know he's been talking to the CIA.

Interesting. New idea, that's for sure.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:44 PM
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16. why wouldn't Tenet know how many died??? Isn't this why the
importance of the trial and grand jury??? The endangerment of the agents???

we have newspaper reporters maliciously outing a agent they endangered her life... and her families??? Wouldn't they know???

I heard numbers between 30-40 to up to a 100...
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:47 PM
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17. It's interesting. I think a lot of people have just assumed
"well that's classified." and gone on.

I dunno. WOULD the CIA tell Fitz and/or the GJ? I really have no idea.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:51 PM
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20. Their lives are valueless because they are agents???
Doesn't Fitz have the right to know HOW MANY??? if none well these people endangered lives??? willfull endangerment is that a crime???
Isn't that REALLY WAS SCOOTER and Rove doing ENDANGERING PLAMES LIFE!!!
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:11 PM
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22. Wow, take a chill pill.
You may or may not have a good point. I certainly don't know enough to say whether or not you have a good point, from a legal viewpoint. But you aren't making your point any better by YELLING AT PEOPLE AND USING LOTS OF EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!1
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:16 PM
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23. oh I'm sorry I'm not meaning by my exclamation points that
I'm yelling Sorry I use them as my signature its a joke amongst my friends that I'm the exclamation queen sorry wasn't yelling sorry!!!

its a bad habit but its also the way I write...

you can check all my posts I do it on all of them...
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:42 PM
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15. Ridiculous
To even think that the indictments will hold anything like treason or murder is delusion of first magnitude.

You will be bitterly disappointed, for sure.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:47 PM
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18. I know its ridiculous to think of Murder when David Kelly commited
suicide??? Can this be responsible for that??? Isn't it a James Bond thing if a agent is exposed they take a cyanide pill or something so no info comes out???

could this OUTING cause that death??? Isn't that a possiblility???

the news media is playing up the small charges Perjury but what if Fitz was playing HARD BALL and layed Murder on them!!!
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:50 PM
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19. Get real
You've been glued into the screen too long. It's making you mushy.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:53 PM
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21. Why is it important for a Secret Agent to remain Secret???
for their dangerous work they do so they can work behind the scenes with people who are dangerous!!!

Why was it important at all to have this investigation??? Its just letting people know a woman's name???

No people DIE when their cover is blown!!!
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:18 PM
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24. Oy
You'll catch an infarction if you use any more exclamation points.

I suppose time will tell. I'll e-kiss your ass in GD if anyone is indicted on murder charges, kay?
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:42 PM
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27. can we say any charges related to murder
That would be cool ...kay
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:46 PM
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29. LOL
What does that even mean?

Absurd.
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Greenpeach Donating Member (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:37 PM
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26. That would be good.
I'm hoping for that and much more.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 10:45 PM
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28. Margie Schoedinger Anyone?
I'll NEVER let that story die, NEVER!

Rape, murder
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:23 PM
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30. Larry C. Johnson said: "It's never happened. I mean, this is unprecedented
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2005/3230plamegate_cheney.html

Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.) told the witnesses that "the consequences of what has occurred are far more serious than I first imagined." Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.) echoed Conyers, saying that, until the testimony, "I did not realize the profound impact on the entire intelligence agency ... that's been built up over decades." In response to Slaughter's question as to whether or not any of the witnesses, in their professional experience, had ever heard of the White House leaking the identity of a covert agent before, former CIA analyst Larry C. Johnson said: "It's never happened. I mean, this is unprecedented."

In his testimony, Johnson revealed that he was in the same 1985 CIA training class as Valerie Plame Wilson, and that because of the potential danger, the identities of the classmates are so secret, that until July 2003, when columnist Robert Novak revealed Plame's name, Johnson had known her only as "Valerie P."

The witnesses were an impressive array of senior retired intelligence officials, who have served in a broad array of roles in the intelligence community: James Marcinkowski, a former case officer for the CIA; Col. W. Patrick Lang (U.S. Army, ret.), former director, Defense Humint Services for the Defense Intelligence Agency; and David MacMichael, former senior estimates officer, National Intelligence Council for the CIA.

The witnesses, along with seven other former intelligence officials, were signators of a July 20 letter to the leaders of the Senate and House of Representatives, warning Congress that the exposure of Plame is a danger to national security, and to every U.S. intelligence officer and asset serving under a cover. Their letter blasts the Republican Party "talking points" claim that Plame's assignment at CIA headquarters to a "desk job" means that she was not in a sensitive, undercover job, and was a serious blow to the White House attempts at damage control.

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