Perjury is not a crime.... HAH!

[oregonindy]

go read this article over at dailykos.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/10/24/122929/29


Heres what some senators have to say about Perjury....

Sen. Frist: "There is no serious question that perjury and obstruction of justice are high crimes and misdemeanors...Indeed, our own Senate precedent establishes that perjury is a high crime and misdemeanor...The crimes of perjury and obstruction of justice are public crimes threatening the administration of justice."

Sen. Kyl: "...there can be no doubt that perjurious, false, and misleading statements made under oath in federal court proceedings are indeed impeachable offenses...John Jay, the first Chief Justice of the United States, said `there is no crime more extensively pernicious to society' than perjury, precisely because it `discolors and poisons the streams of justice.'"

Sen. DeWine: "Obstruction of justice and perjury strike at the very heart of our system of justice...Perjury is also a very serious crime...The judiciary is designed to be a mechanism for finding the truth-so that justice can be done. Perjury perverts the judiciary, turning it into a mechanism that accepts lies-so that injustice may prevail."

Sen. Talent: "Nobody else in a position of trust, not a CEO, not a labor union leader, not a principal of a school could do half of what the president has done and stay in office. I mean, who would have said a year ago that a president could perjure himself and obstruct justice and tamper with witnesses... and stay in office."

Sen. McConnell: "I am completely and utterly perplexed by those who argue that perjury and obstruction of justice are not high crimes and misdemeanors...Perjury and obstruction hammer away at the twin pillars of our legal system: truth and justice."

Sen. Voinovich: "As constitutional scholar Charles Cooper said, `The crimes of perjury and obstruction of justice, like the crimes of treason and bribery, are quintessentially offenses against our system of government, visiting injury immediately on society itself.'"

Sen. Hutchison: "The reason that I voted to remove him from office is because I think the overridding issue here is that truth will remain the standard for perjury and obstruction of justice in our criminal justice system and it must not be gray. It must not be muddy."

Sen. Craig: "There is no question in my mind that perjury and obstruction of justice are the kind of public crimes that the Founders had in mind, and the House managers have demonstrated these crimes were committed by the president. As for the excuses being desperately sought by some to allow President Clinton to escape accountability, it seems to me that creating such loopholes would require tearing holes in the Constitution-something that cannot be justified to protect this president, or any president."

Sen. Brownback: "Perjury and obstruction of justice are crimes against the state. Perjury goes directly against the truth-finding function of the judicial branch of government."

[longship]

1. A good compilation.

Recommended.

Add Kay Bailey Hutch quotes, please.

[MidwestTransplant]

14. I will remind everybody...they were talking about lies about sex

This is only about National Security....surely you all can recognize this is less significant.

[MADem]

19. Yeah, trying to prevent your wife from knowing you behaved in caddish

fashion is a MUCH MORE serious offense than, say, sending thousands of our youth off to die in a bullshit war! No comparison at all!!!

And the kicker is, they say this shit with a straight face! The mind simply BOGGLES!!!!!!

[DoYouEverWonder]

31. Neither did Clinton conspire with his staff

to cover it up.

[demigoddess]

18. yesterday I heard her on cable tv news saying that perjury was only

a way to get someone who had not committed a crime. God how it could have:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[Demoiselle]

2. Perjury is a felony. See Martha Stewart. eom

[chelsea0011]

3. Funny how things have changed since the good ole Clinton years

Rule of law, rule of law, rule of law, rule of law

:patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:

[sakabatou]

5. "Why do you hate America?"

[jwirr]

4. It is if you and I, little guy, do it.

[in_cog_ni_to]

6. Wasn't that why Clinton just HAD TO BE IMPEACHED??

"The Rule Of Law" "The Rule Of Law" "The Rule Of Law" "The Rule Of Law" "The Rule Of Law" That's all we heard for 8 freakin' years from the repukes. Clinton HAD TO BE IMPEACHED because he lied in his testimony. Guess what asshole freepers? The "Rule Of Law" applies to repukes too!

Damn right it's a crime. Throw all their asses in jail and throw away the key.

[FreedomAngel82]

15. Exactly

These people really piss me off so freakin bad. :mad: No wonder they hide behind religion.

[WalrusSlayer]

7. Yeah, but...

...don't forget: 9/11 changed everything!

:puke:

[warrens]

8. You left out "except when Republicans do it" in every quote

Shame on you, misquoting all those fine gentlemen.

[whirlygigspin]

10. this is just the criminalization of crime

what's wrong with perjury? it's not like they lied!?? Morans

[jefferson_dem]

9. KOS done good! Recommended.

n/t

[Oreo]

11. Thanks

Just faxed it to my reps (I included Normie Coleman and called him a liar and a thug) and emailed Bush on Congress.org for all to see.

[FreedomAngel82]

12. It's time to use their own quotes against them

Show the county how they're all hypocrites. Democrats should be out in full force using these quote's against them.

[rodeodance]

29. the Dems need to pounce on this. But so far.. silence.

[tabasco]

13. They sure have short memories.

It's apparent the right-wing spinners believe the American People are very stupid.

I'm hoping they are somewhat wrong. :shrug:

IMO, the biggest rpoblem in this country is the huge number of gullible people.

[yowzayowzayowza]

16. Didn't ya get the memo?

For Demz itz the "Rule of Law."
For Repubz itz the "Rule 'o Flaw."

[Village Idiot]

17. Excellent.

This garbage should be read back from the House floor, just to remind everyone what a batch of corrupt and duplicitous snakecharmers these Rethuglican assclowns really are.

[Igel]

20. Yep. Perjury's perjury, and it's a felony.

It doesn't matter who did it, and doesn't matter what the person's rationalization for it is, there's no excusing it.

But every flip has an equal and opposite flop.

[RobertSeattle]

21. IOKTPIYAR

It's OK To Perjure If You're a Republican

[oregonindy]

22. yeah I like that one. :)

[AZBlue]

23. Exactly! It's only perjury if you are a Dem.

[Arkana]

24. That's not what those fuckers were saying

when they were getting their knickers in a twist over a blow job! God, the fucking hypocrisy makes me want to puke.

[rodeodance]

25. their words will haunt them (I hope)!

[rodeodance]

26. thanks for this post.

[rodeodance]

27. Repugs are showing their true colors once again!

[rodeodance]

28. Brownback is one person I can not stand!

Sen. Brownback: "Perjury and obstruction of justice are crimes against the state. Perjury goes directly against the truth-finding function of the judicial branch of government."

[Lochloosa]

30. Here is a better quote from KBH:

The edifice of American jurisprudence rests on the foundation of the due process of law. The mortar in that foundation is the oath. Those who seek to obstruct justice weaken that foundation, and those who violate the oath would tear the whole structure down.

Every day, thousands of citizens in thousands of courtrooms across America are sworn in as jurors, as grand jurors, as witnesses, as defendants. On those oaths rest the due process of law upon which all of our other rights are based.

The oath is how we defend ourselves against those who would subvert our system by breaking our laws. There are Americans in jail today because they violated that oath. Others have prevailed at the bar of justice because of that oath.

What would we be telling Americans -- and those worldwide who see in America what they can only hope for in their own countries -- if the Senate of the United States were to conclude: The President lied under oath as an element of a scheme to obstruct the due process of law, but we chose to look the other way?

I cannot make that choice. I cannot look away. I vote `Guilty' on Article I, Perjury. I vote `Guilty' on Article II, Obstruction of Justice.