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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 03:02 PM
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Newsweek painting Libby -- "Prelude to a Leak"
Edited on Sun Oct-23-05 03:07 PM by understandinglife
I posted this originally in LBN because it is NEWS of the first order. It is the absolutely transparent, let's all paint Libby ditty, published online a full week ahead of the October 31, 2005 issue of Newsweek.

As you read it, you can just imagine how many Rove acolytes have been phoning Isikoff et al., since Rove's 4+h, 4th tap-dance with the GJ.

Prelude to a Leak

Gang fight: How Cheney and his tight-knit team launched the Iraq war, chased their critics—and set the stage for a special prosecutor's dramatic probe.

By John Barry, Michael Isikoff and Mark Hosenball

Newsweek October 31, 2005 Issue - It is the nature of bureaucracies that reports are ordered up and then ignored. In February 2002, Vice President Dick Cheney received a CIA briefing that touched on Saddam Hussein's attempts to build nuclear bombs. Cheney, who was looking for evidence to support an Iraq invasion, was especially interested in one detail: a report that claimed Saddam attempted to purchase uranium from Niger. At the end of the briefing, Cheney or an aide told the CIA man that the vice president wanted to know more about the subject. It was a common enough request. "Principals" often ask briefers for this sort of thing. But when the vice president of the United States makes a request, underlings jump. Midlevel officials in the CIA's clandestine service quickly arranged to send Ambassador Joseph Wilson to Niger to investigate the uranium claims. A seasoned diplomat, Wilson had good connections in the region. He would later say his week in Africa convinced him that the story was bogus, and said so to his CIA debriefers. The agency handed the information up the chain, but there is no record that it ever reached Cheney. Like hundreds of other reports that slosh through the bureaucracy each day, Wilson's findings likely made their way to the middle of a pile. The vice president has said he never knew about Wilson's trip, and never saw any report.

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Behind the scenes, no one pushed the terror link harder than Libby. He urged Colin Powell's staff to include the Prague meeting in the secretary of State's speech to the United Nations. But Powell wanted no part of it. After one long session debating the evidence before the speech, Libby turned to a Powell aide. "Don't worry about any of this," he said, according to someone who was in the room. "We'll get back in what you take out." They didn't. Powell refused to use the line, but Libby's audacity stunned everyone at the table. "The notion that they've become a gang has some merit," says a longtime colleague of Libby's who requested anonymity to preserve the friendship. "A small group who only talk to each other ... You pay a price for that."

Libby seemed to bring the same kind of intensity when it came to Wilson. The timing of the diplomat's fiery op-ed couldn't have been worse for the administration. It was July 2003, two months after Saddam's statue fell, and still no WMD had been found. The administration's primary sales pitch was being called into doubt.

Libby and other administration officials were quick to denounce Wilson's claims, and to allege that it was his wife who had chosen him for the African trip. (Wilson and Plame say she merely recommended him to her supervisor when asked.) According to the Los Angeles Times, Libby began keeping close track of Wilson's interviews and television appearances, and pushed for an aggressive PR campaign against him. He also began chatting up reporters on his own. An outgoing schmoozer who's been known to trade shots of tequila with reporters until the wee hours, at the very least he reached out to members of the press. The New York Times's Judith Miller, one of the reporters caught up in the investigation, wrote last week that she had three conversations with Libby before Plame's name became public. And Rove, who talked to Time magazine's Matthew Cooper about the case, reportedly told the grand jury that he may have also spoken to Libby about Plame. It's now up to Fitzgerald to decide if those conversations were more than just talk.

Link:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9787692/site/newsweek/page/2

Here's the link to the original post that has now been moved to the Editorials area:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x167193


As many have noted these past few days -- Libby, dude, cop-a-plea, quickly.


Peace.


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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 03:04 PM
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 03:15 PM
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2. But it was the White House that sent Andrew Card over to VP's office
to oversee the WHIG operation. And he took Karl and Karen with him? So, it's hard to say that the White House was not totally involved, along with the VP's office...
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 03:54 PM
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5. Yes. This "it's all Libby, all the time" drill started ~ 3 days ago.
As I posted this past week -- "chomp, chomp, chomp..." these guys and gals are whacking each other and it's spilling into public view:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5079995

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5117538#5118593

What's interesting is I've yet to see anyone in the corporate media ask the rhetorical "gosh, wonder why we suddenly have so many 'former WH .... whatevers' so willing to talk -- ABOUT Libby?"

The answer to which is, they probably all work(ed) for Karl and W. :evilgrin:

And, it's just beginning.....


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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 03:15 PM
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 03:15 PM
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3. Best line from the whole story...

Behind their backs, their detractors dubbed Cheney and his minions "the commissars."
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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 03:52 PM
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4. Cheney's Lying about Never Getting Wilson's Report:
Cheney says he never got Wilson's report. This is hard to believe. Read the following chronology:

January-February, 2002 - The Niger uranium story becomes a matter of contention within the CIA; By early 2002, the intelligence—still unverified—had begun to play a role in the Administration’s warnings about the Iraqi nuclear threat. On January 30th, the C.I.A. published an unclassified report to Congress that stated, “Baghdad may be attempting to acquire materials that could aid in reconstituting its nuclear-weapons program.”

A week later, Colin Powell told the House International Relations Committee, “With respect to the nuclear program, there is no doubt that the Iraqis are pursuing it.” (New Yorker)

By early 2002 U.S. Ambassador to Niger Barbra Owens-Kirkpatrick was asked about Iraq-Niger uranium trade. She informs Washington that there is no basis to suspect any link.

Then Cheney's office decides to investigate the forged letters' substance. Former U.S. ambassador to Gabon, Joseph C. Wilson (a man of exceptionally distinguished diplomatic career), was (in his words) "invited out to meet with a group of people at the CIA who were interested in this subject. Wilson agrees to investigate the content of the documents, which he had not seen. He leaves for Niger in February 2002 and in early March returns and delivers an oral report to the CIA indicating that there is no evidence of any sales of uranium by Niger to Iraq.

February 24, 2002 – A four-star U.S. general, Marine Gen. Carlton W. Fulford Jr., deputy commander of the U-S European Command (the headquarters responsible for military relations with most of sub-Saharan Africa), visits Niger at the request of the U.S. ambassador. He meets with Niger's president on February 24 and emphasizes to him the importance of tight controls over Niger’s uranium ore deposits. Fulford afterwards confirms the Ambassador’s earlier findings, as he later tells the Washington Post, that there is no evidence of the sale of yellowcake to Iraq, and that Niger’s uranium supply is “secure.” The General’s report duly goes up through the chain of his command to the Joint Chiefs in the Pentagon and on to Rice at the NSC, Powell at State, the CIA, the Energy Department and other interested agencies. (The Source) According to MSNBC, Fulford also visited the country two months later. Fulford later tells the Washington Post that he had come away from his visit convinced that Niger's uranium stocks were secure. (CounterPunch)


March, 2002 – A U.S. State Department report on the dubiousness of the Iraq-uranium allegations is sent to Cheney in March 2002.


October 4, 2002 – The National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq is written and released at the request of Senators Bob Graham and Dick Durbin.

“Even so, that is not the most important point. What all should know is that the Bush administration’s decision for war against Iraq came well before the intelligence estimate. There is ample evidence that that decision was made, at the latest, by spring 2002.

"That there was no NIE before that speaks volumes. During my 27 years of service as a CIA analyst, never was a foreign policy decision of that magnitude made without first commissioning a National Intelligence Estimate. Why did Tenet not take the initiative and see that one was done? Surely, if he did not know that decisions on war and peace were being made at the White House and Pentagon in early 2002, he was the only one in Washington so unaware.

Previously, there was no NIE because Tenet realized that an honest one would show how little the intelligence community knew about the threat from Iraq and would hardly support a case for war. And so, consummate bureaucrat that he is, he kept his head down for as long as he could.” Tom Paine - Ray McGovern Article

According to a July, 2003 article in the Financial Times, in a footnote in the Estimate, the Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR), the State Department's in-house intelligence analysis unit, stated that its analysts were not persuaded that the aluminum tubes purchased by Iraq could be used in centrifuges to enrich uranium. (Financial Times)

The State Department’s Intelligence and Research Department dissented from the conclusion in the National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq’s WMD capabilities that Iraq was reconstituting its nuclear weapons program. "The activities we have detected do not ... add up to a compelling case that Iraq is currently pursuing what INR would consider to be an integrated and comprehensive approach to acquiring nuclear weapons."

The INR accepted the judgment by Energy Department technical experts that aluminum tubes Iraq was seeking to acquire, which was the central basis for the conclusion that Iraq was reconstituting its nuclear weapons program, were ill-suited to build centrifuges for enriching uranium.

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The National Intelligence Estimate noted that, if Iraq was left unchecked (which it had never been), it could "have a nuclear weapon during this decade." Further, if Iraq could acquire weapons-grade fissile material from abroad, "it could make a nuclear weapon within a year." Iraq was capable of "quickly producing and weaponizing" a variety of agents, including anthrax, "for delivery by bombs, missiles, aerial sprayers, and covert operatives." Discrepancies in Iraq's accounting of its Scud missiles "suggested" that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein "retained a covert force of up to a few dozen Scud missiles with a range of 650 to 900 kilometers." It also stated that the probability of an unprovoked attack by Iraq on the US was low.

The National Intelligence Estimate contained the report from SISME, based on the forged documents, that Iraq was trying to buy 500 tons of pure yellowcake uranium from Niger.

October 7, 2002 – In a speech in Cincinnati Bush states:
"The Iraqi regime . . . possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons."
"We know that the regime has produced thousands of tons of chemical agents, including mustard gas, Sarin nerve gas, VX nerve gas."
"We've also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We're concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using these UAVS for missions targeting the United States."

"The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program. Saddam Hussein has held numerous meetings with Iraqi nuclear scientists, a group he calls his "nuclear mujahideen" - his nuclear holy warriors. Satellite photographs reveal that Iraq is rebuilding facilities at sites that have been part of its nuclear program in the past. Iraq has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes and other equipment needed for gas centrifuges, which are used to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons."
Bush also stated: “Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof, the smoking gun that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud.” (The full text of Bush’s speech can be found in Carnegie Report: First Strike Guidelines: the case of Iraq -- Project on Defense Alternatives)
In the speech in Cincinnati, Bush noted that "Saddam Hussein is a homicidal dictator who is addicted to weapons of mass destruction" and then warned that "Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical and biological weapons across broad areas. We're concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using these for missions targeting the United States."

(Presumably Bush was here referring to the Czech L-29 jet training aircraft, 169 of which Iraq bought in the 1960s and 1980s. The L-29 is a single-engine, dual-seat airplane meant to be a basic flight trainer for novices, the Soviet bloc's version of America's Cessna. It has a range of about 840 miles and a top speed of around 145 miles per hour. There is some evidence that even before the Gulf war Iraq had experimented with converting these aircraft into unmanned aerial vehicles-but they may have been merely crop-dusters. In any case, Bush did not explain how these slow-moving aircraft might reach Maine, the nearest point on the U.S. mainland, some 5,500 miles from Iraq, or why they would not be shot down the moment they crossed Iraq's borders.) (ZNet | Iraq | Iraq Wars)

In his October 7, 2002 speech, President Bush adds: "Some al-Qaeda leaders who fled Afghanistan went to Iraq."

(Since the "solid evidence" has never been released, one must assume that Rumsfeld and Bush are referring to about 150 members of a group called Ansar al Islam ("Supporters of Islam") who took refuge in the Kurdish areas of northern Iraq. The problem is that America's would-be Kurdish allies, not Saddam, controlled this area. There is no evidence of links between Saddam and Osama bin Laden, a point often made by the CIA, and such cooperation would be implausible given Osama's religious commitments and Saddam's ruthlessly secular regime, whose only object of worship was Saddam himself.)

The CIA vetted Bush’s speech in advance and Deputy National Security Adviser Steve Hadley was warned not to include a reference to the alleged Niger uranium purchase.

October 22, 2002 - In October 2002, in a notable front-page article titled "For Bush, Facts Are Malleable" (10/22/02), Washington Post reporter Dana Milbank noted two dubious Bush claims about Iraq: his citing of a United Nations International Atomic Energy report alleging that Iraq was "six months away" from developing a nuclear weapon; and that Iraq maintained a growing fleet of unmanned aircraft that could be used, in Bush's words, "for missions targeting the United States." While these assertions "were powerful arguments for the actions Bush sought," Milbank concluded they "were dubious, if not wrong.” Further information revealed that the aircraft lack the range to reach the United States" and "there was no such report by the IAEA." (FAIR)

December 7, 2002 - Iraq submits a 12,000-page declaration on its chemical, biological and nuclear activities, claiming it has no banned weapons.

December 26, 2002 - U.N. Finds No Banned Weapons (BBC News)
"Iraq says that after a month of 'intrusive, extensive and sometimes aggressive' inspections, the United Nations has found no evidence that Baghdad has weapons of mass destruction."

January 7, 2003 - No Nuclear Weapons Program Found in Iraq (CNN) "The U.N. agency searching for evidence of a nuclear weapons program in Iraq said Monday that so far it has not found evidence of one."

January 11, 2003 - Atomic Agency Challenges Bush's Key Claim Against Iraq (International Herald Tribune) "The key piece of evidence that President George W. Bush has cited as proof that Saddam Hussein has sought to revive his program to make nuclear weapons has been challenged by the International Atomic Energy Agency."

"Mohamed ElBaradei, director of the International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna, offered a sharply different assessment in a report to the UN Security Council. ElBaradei said Iraqi officials had claimed that they sought the tubes to make 81-mm rockets. ElBaradei indicated that he thought the Iraqi claim was credible."

January 28, 2003 - President Bush delivers the State of the Union address, stating, among other things: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.... Saddam Hussein has not credibly explained these activities. He clearly has much to hide." Bush adds that the US is prepared to attack Iraq even without a UN mandate. (White House)

Bush also states: "Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent."

Since as early as October, 2002 the CIA had warned the Administration not to use the Niger uranium purchase claim in public. CIA Director Tenet personally persuaded deputy national security adviser Stephen Hadley to omit it from President Bush's October 7 speech in Cincinnati. But on the eve of Bush's State of the Union address, Robert Joseph, an assistant to the president in charge of nonproliferation at the National Security Council (NSC), initially asked the CIA if the allegation that Iraq sought to purchase 500 pounds of uranium from Niger could be included in the presidential speech. A CIA official said he told Joseph that the agency objected. Joseph then asked if it would be all right to cite a British intelligence report that the Iraqis were trying to buy uranium from several African countries. The CIA official acquiesced. Accordingly, Bush stated: “The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.” (Washington Post)

February 5, 2003 - Colin Powell presents the Bush Administrations case for military action against Iraq to the UN Security Council. He attempts to prove that Iraq is evading the weapons inspectors, continues to produce WMDs, and is linked to al-Qaeda. (White House)
Powell cites the British dossier of February 3 as a "fine paper that the United Kingdom distributed... which describes in exquisite detail Iraqi deception activities." (Guardian) "Powell embellishes an intercepted conversation about weapons inspections between Iraqi officials to make it sound more incriminating, changing an order to "inspect the scrap areas and the abandoned areas" to a command to "clean out" those areas. He also added the phrase "make sure there is nothing there," a phrase that appears nowhere in the State Department's official translation. (FAIR; CommonDreams)

Powell says: "We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more."
He also presents pictures of supposed mobile chemical/biological laboratories (which were later determined to be used by Iraq to produce gas for balloons). The source of this misinformation was an Iraqi defector named “Curve Ball”:

“Curve Ball” was an Iraqi defector who told his foreign country intelligence handlers that Saddam had mobile biological weapons factories mounted on trucks and he and other defectors persuaded U.S. intelligence that these trucks existed, but Curve Ball’s report turned out to be fabricated. And one Pentagon expert, who had seen Curve Ball and had doubts about him, wrote a CIA colleague in an e-mail the day before Colin Powell's speech to the U.N. He expressed alarm that Secretary Powell's speech would use unverifiable information from a dubious source. And he got this answer back from the CIA officials, and it's quoted in the Senate Intelligence Committee report, quote, "Let's keep in mind the fact that this war is going to happen regardless of what Curve Ball said or didn't say and that the powers that be probably aren't terribly interested in whether Curve Ball knows what he is talking about."

The level to which Libby and Cheney stooped to get their war was highlighted by the momentous presentation of Saddam’s ‘‘threat’’ before the United Nations Security Council by then Secretary of State Colin Powell. Powell gave a presentation six weeks before the war where he said, ‘‘every statement I make today is backed up by sources, solid sources. These are not assertions.’’ Those assertions resulted in grudging acceptance of the war from many Democrats.





Powell, according to both US News and Vanity Fair, was so irritated by Libby’s hodgepodge of unsubstantiated facts that he threw documents into the air and said, ‘‘I’m not reading this. This is bullshit.’’

Libby, whose nickname is “Scooter”, was particularly unhappy that Powell had thrown out sections of the presentation that would have attempted to link Al-Qaeda to Saddam, including a discredited report that top 9/11 Al-Qaeda airline hijacker Mohamed Atta had a meeting with an Iraqi intelligence official in Prague. According to Vanity Fair, ‘‘Cheney’s office made one last ditch effort to persuade Powell to link Saddam and Al-Qaeda and to slip the Prague story back into the speech. Only moments before Powell began speaking, Scooter Libby tried unsuccessfully to reach Wilkerson by phone. Powell’s staff chief, by then inside the Security Council chamber, declined to take the call. ‘Scooter,’ said one State Department aide, ‘wasn’t happy.’’’

According to Vanity Fair, Cheney himself urged Powell to go ahead and stake his national popularity on the nonexistent evidence by saying to Powell, ‘‘Your poll numbers are in the 70s. You can afford to lose a few points.’’(Link to Cheney deepens ‘leak-gate’ scandal - The Boston Globe - Boston.com - Op-ed - News

February 24, 2003 – Newsweek reports that in a transcript of testimony supplied to the U.S. Government by Hussein Kamel, Saddam Hussein’s deceased son-in-law, all of Iraq’s WMDs were destroyed in 1991. (FAIR Press Release: Star Witness on Iraq Said Weapons Were Destroyed

Newsweek's John Barry-- who covered Iraqi weapons inspections for more than a decade-- obtained the transcript of Kamel's 1995 debriefing by officials from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and the U.N. inspections team known as UNSCOM.

Kamel told the inspectors "that after the Gulf War, Iraq destroyed all its chemical and biological weapons stocks and the missiles to deliver them," Barry wrote. All that remained were "hidden blueprints, computer disks, microfiches" and production molds. The weapons were destroyed secretly, in order to hide their existence from inspectors, in the hopes of someday resuming production after inspections had finished. The CIA and MI6 were told the same story, Barry reported, and "a military aide who defected with Kamel... backed Kamel's assertions about the destruction of WMD stocks."

On Wednesday (2/26/03), a complete copy of the Kamel transcript-- an internal UNSCOM/IAEA document stamped "sensitive"-- was obtained by Glen Rangwala, the Cambridge University analyst who in early February revealed that Tony Blair's "intelligence dossier" was plagiarized from a student thesis. This transcript can be seen at
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http://www.fair.org/press-releases/kamel.pdf>

In the transcript (p. 13), Kamel says bluntly: "All weapons-- biological, chemical, missile, nuclear, were destroyed."

March 7, 2003 - On March 7th, Mohamed El-Baradei, the director-general of the International Atomic Energy Agency, in Vienna, told the U.N. Security Council that the documents involving the Niger-Iraq uranium sale were fakes. (New Yorker)

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) on March 7, 2003, just days before the invasion of Iraq, released their analysis of the documents. It only took the IAEA officials a matter of hours to determine that the documents were a fake. They used a simple Google search, and discovered laughable mistakes such as incorrect names of Niger officials. The IAEA then reported their findings to the United Nations Security Council.

March 16, 2003 - Dick Cheney states on Meet the Press: "We know he’s out trying once again to produce nuclear weapons and we know that he has a long-standing relationship with various terrorist groups, including the al-Qaeda organization. . . . We know that based on intelligence that he has been very, very good at hiding these kinds of efforts. He’s had years to get good at it and we know he has been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons. And we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons. I think Mr. El-Baradei frankly is wrong." (Mount Holyoke transcript)

March 16, 2003 – Vice President Cheney says, on being asked about the duration of the Iraq War, "My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators... I think it will go relatively quickly... in weeks rather than months."
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 03:55 PM
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6. Superb referencing!! Thank you for posting it in this thread.
Peace.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 04:17 PM
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7. "Mr. Libby and Mr. Cheney were in the boiler room of the disinformation
Edited on Sun Oct-23-05 04:17 PM by understandinglife
....factory. The vice president's repetitive hyping of Saddam's nuclear ambitions in the summer and fall of 2002 as well as his persistence in advertising bogus Saddam-Qaeda ties were fed by the rogue intelligence operation set up in his own office. As we know from many journalistic accounts, Mr. Cheney and Mr. Libby built their "case" by often making an end run around the C.I.A., State Department intelligence and the Defense Intelligence Agency. Their ally in cherry-picking intelligence was a similar cadre of neocon zealots led by Douglas Feith at the Pentagon.

THIS is what Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, then-Secretary of State Colin Powell's wartime chief of staff, was talking about last week when he publicly chastised the "Cheney-Rumsfeld cabal" for sowing potential disaster in Iraq, North Korea and Iran. It's this cabal that in 2002 pushed for much of the bogus W.M.D. evidence that ended up in Mr. Powell's now infamous February 2003 presentation to the U.N. It's this cabal whose propaganda was sold by the war's unannounced marketing arm, the White House Iraq Group, or WHIG, in which both Mr. Libby and Mr. Rove served in the second half of 2002. One of WHIG's goals, successfully realized, was to turn up the heat on Congress so it would rush to pass a resolution authorizing war in the politically advantageous month just before the midterm election.

Joseph Wilson wasn't a player in these exalted circles; he was a footnote who began to speak out loudly only after Saddam had been toppled and the mission in Iraq had been "accomplished." He challenged just one element of the W.M.D. "evidence," the uranium that Saddam's government had supposedly been seeking in Africa to fuel its ominous mushroom clouds.

But based on what we know about Mr. Libby's and Mr. Rove's hysterical over-response to Mr. Wilson's accusation, he scared them silly. He did so because they had something to hide. Should Mr. Libby and Mr. Rove have lied to investigators or a grand jury in their panic, Mr. Fitzgerald will bring charges. But that crime would seem a misdemeanor next to the fables that they and their bosses fed the nation and the world as the whys for invading Iraq.

From Karl and Scooter's Excellent Adventure by Frank Rich on October 23, 2005

Link:

http://select.nytimes.com/2005/10/23/opinion/23rich.html?hp=&pagewanted=print


Mr. Rich, as expected, isn't buying into the "It's Scotter, It's Scooter, .... stuff."

We can only hope that the Grand Jury and Special Counsel are interested in more than misdemeanors.


Peace.


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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 05:59 PM
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13. "Scowcroft on Cheney: "The Real Anomaly""
"The real anomaly in the Administration is Cheney," Scowcroft said. "I consider Cheney a good friend -- I've known him for thirty years. But Dick Cheney I don't know anymore." He went on, "I don't think Dick Cheney is a neocon, but allied to the core of neocons is that bunch who thought we made a mistake in the first Gulf War, that we should have finished the job.


This quote is provided by Steve Clemons at The Washington Note. Mr Clemons must have a special relationship with The New Yorker because he has quote extensively from the amazing article by Jeffrey Goldberg entitled "Breaking Ranks: What Turned Brent Scowcroft Against the Bush Administration?" that appears in this week's issue of TNY.

Here's the link to Mr Clemons quite long thread -- well worth the read in itself and certainly an inducement to get a copy of Goldberg's article:

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/001024.html

One other insight Mr Clemons offers:

I happen to know that Scowcroft did not know that the article was coming out this week and would have preferred his views to air some time after a week of potential indictments by Patrick Fitzgerald of White House heavyweights.

Nonetheless, the article is out. Scowcroft has significant disdain for the negative consequences of Bush's decisions on the nation's well-being. Lawrence Wilkerson filled in many of the other pieces not covered here in his revelations about a "cabal" in the White House that cast away essential guidance from the 1947 National Security Act.


Serendipity? -- naw, Those "New Yorker" publishers know exactly why they wanted this baby on the racks, this week.


Peace.

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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 07:58 PM
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19. Wow, THAT was a good read. A primer on the dysfunction of this admin.
Must be it's own thread, if it isn't already.

:thumbsup:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 08:51 PM
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20. Can't wait to read the entire article. Related DU link posted by swag:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:26 AM
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22. Amy Davidson discusses Scowcroft with Goldberg at New Yorker online
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 01:06 AM
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23. "Now if Newsweek is any indication, Scooter and the Veep will be the main
... course as the MSM prepare to dine at Patrick Fitzgerald's all-you-can-eat-indictment-buffet:

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If "cooperating with Fitzgerald's probe" means waving a dead chicken above one's head while screaming some weird Santeria death hex, then I guess so.

More at the link:

http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/2005/10/veep-orders-his-tomb.html


Jane Hamsher is just sooooooooooooo good with the skewer!!!


Peace.

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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 04:21 PM
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8. As I posted in the other thread, clearly the Bushies are portraying
themselves as victims of the Cheney/Libby gang. And the corporate press, so eager to get "inside info" goes along....again and again and again.

From recent press coverage are we to assume that Bush & his staff are virginal innocents merely taken in by big bad Cheney and his gang? That appears to be the theme of recent articles. Like the LA Times article on Libby that even had documents given turned over to the times...by whom? and why? one wonders. What about the other cast of characters involved at the time?

Condi "Mushroom Cloud" Rice, WHIG, worked for Bush.
Hadley, WHIG, worked for Condi/Bush.
Karl "sorry, my conversation with Matt Cooper just slipped out of my mind when I first testified" Rove, WHIG, worked for Bush.
Karen Hughes, WHIG and noted Constitutional scholar (lol), worked for Bush.
Andrew "you don't bring out new products in August" Card, WHIG organizer, was Bush's Chief of Staff.
Ari Fleischer worked for Bush.
And not least, Rumsfeld and his OSP worked for Bush.

Seems the stenographer press is falling in line in a direction they've been steered to. It wasn't Bush's war, it was Cheney's and Rove was only playing telephone on the Plame thing because Scooter...what, coerced him?

Remember when Matt Cooper wrote about his testimony to the grand jury regarding his conversation with Rove? Rove told him Wilson's wife worked for the CIA on WMD and was responsible for sending Wilson to Africa. From his article:

"The notes, and my subsequent e-mails, go on to indicate that Rove told me material was going to be declassified in the coming days that would cast doubt on Wilson's mission and his findings." http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/0,10987,1083899,00.html

That most likely was the now famous classified State Dept memo that apparently was and continues to be one of the sources for the Administration's campaign against Wilson using the media noise machine. So was that Rove admitting he's passing on classified info to someone not authorized to receive it? oops.

Clearly WH "strategery" is to divert attention from themselves by throwing the VP's office under the bus.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 05:10 AM
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28. oh YES, but remember Miller's testimony
She said she didn't get the name from Libby. Did Fitzgerald need her testimony because he actually knew it wasn't Libby?? Or at least, not ALL Libby? Maybe???

I'm seeing the same thing as you, and even that piece by Wilkerson, Powell's aide, is an attack on Cheney and Rumsfeld. Divert attention from Bush. Save Bush's ass. It's way too orchestrated to be anything else.

Hopefully Fitzgerald follows the evidence and not the spin.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 04:25 PM
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9. The entire east coast establishment (NYT, WP, Boston Globe)
print media ran libby-fluffer pieces in their sunday editions, at least two on the front page. Sort of 'Meet Scooter Libby - Up Close and Personal'. Introducing one of the lesser known members of The Cabal as he gets set for his starring role in this week's events.

Looks like its been decided that Libby will fall on his sword to protect his boss, rove, and the f*ing moron himself. I wonder how much that costs?

Looks like media control remains solidly in place despite the outbreak of indictment flu and that momentary collapse during the Katrina Fiasco.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 04:51 PM
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10. TPM: "This certainly seems like an attempt to pin this whole thing on ...
... Libby.

Leaks like that won't affect Fitzgerald; they're not intended to. They're aimed at shaping perceptions of indictments if they come down. If Libby and Rove are indicted, then, yes Rove got caught up in it. And it shouldn't have happened. But the whole unfortunate mess was spawned by the bitter Libby-Wilson antagonism. It wasn't something that involved the whole White House team, not something characteristic of how it functions.

That would be the argument.

And it's one everyone should have their eyes out for, since the key players in the White House appear to have decided that Libby is already a fatality in this battle.

More at the link:

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/006811.php


The above is from Josh Marshall's analysis of the LA Times article that appeared on Friday.

Bush Critic Became Target of Libby, Former Aides Say: Cheney's chief of staff reportedly sought an aggressive campaign against Wilson.

By Peter Wallsten and Tom Hamburger, Times Staff Writers

October 21, 2005

WASHINGTON — Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff was so angry about the public statements of former Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, a Bush administration critic married to an undercover CIA officer, that he monitored all of Wilson's television appearances and urged the White House to mount an aggressive public campaign against him, former aides say.

Link:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-libby21oct21,0,7741636.story?page=1&track=tothtml


I just hope Wallsten and Hamburger step back a bit and ask themselves "wonder why all these folk were so willing to talk to us, now?" -- and then report to all of us the outcome of their reflecting on that key question.


Peace.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 05:01 PM
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11. Arianna Huffington: "In the same way that however hard the White House ..
... tries (and as Josh Marshall points out, it's trying very, very hard) to turn Libby into Mr. Run Amok, it will not succeed in pinning it all on Scooter. The crisis at the New York Times is about much more than Judy Miller, and the crisis at the White House is about much more than Scooter Libby.

Yahoo Link:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20051023/cm_huffpost/009348

HuffPo Link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/throwing-miller-and-libby_b_9348.html


Correct.


Peace.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 05:44 PM
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12. Rate this baby up.
:kick:

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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 06:03 PM
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14. This should be the meme: Libby drew the short straw.
Edited on Sun Oct-23-05 06:03 PM by Straight Shooter
My bullsh*t antennae are waving. I smell a skunk and its name is Rove. He's sneaking out the back door, thinking he's getting away with what he's done.

Fitzgerald is too smart. Fool the American public, but you can't fool Fitzgerald. Rove is stupid to even try. Some genius :eyes:

edit typo
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 06:18 PM
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15. "I smell a skunk and its name is Rove." I agree, and, ...
... it wouldn't surprise me at all if one of the folk poking him with a stick to get him to spray even more is Cheney, himself.

Like you say, Mr Fitzgerald is unlikely distracted by any of the stuff we've seen in the LAT or Newsweek or elsewhere these past few days.


Peace.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 07:01 PM
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16. James Wolcott: "Scooter Libby, Shark Bait"
Imagine you're I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby. I know, it's not easy.

<clip>

You're Scooter Libby, and you're being royally, publicly screwed.

Before you had a low profile within the neocon hierarchy and the red-hot circle of the White House decision-making machine. You didn't have the mouthy, controversial profile of a Richard Perle or Paul Wolfowitz, or the negative rap of a Doug Feith, a.k.a., the dumbest fucking man on the planet. But as Dick Cheney's chief of staff you were in what Seymour Krim called "the High Inside," the hum of power vibrating through your bones, a major player, a force.

And now look at you.

Your image, hitherto unknown to most of the public, is being flashed regularly on the TV screen like a playing card next to Karl Rove's more familiar babyface. Your names are linked too, as if you've formed a factoidal duo: Rove and Libby, Rove and Libby -- which Don Imus has deliberately, mumblingly confused with Hunt and Liddy, two infamous names from the Watergate scandal.

<clip>

More at the link:

http://jameswolcott.com
http://jameswolcott.com/archives/2005/10/scooter_libby_s.php


Clue to Busy & Cheney -- no one, not even the dumbest guy on the planet (are ya listen'n Doug) are going to take the wrap for you two clods.


Peace.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 07:31 PM
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17. "But if Libby was the first source, where did he get the classified ...
Edited on Sun Oct-23-05 07:39 PM by understandinglife
... information from? From the Miller testimony, he knew quite early on. But what hard evidence do we know of? A lot of attention is now focused on an Airforce One flight to Africa on July 7, 2003. There was a printed memo detailing Plame’s identity and its secret status on that flight; and it was located “in the front of” the plane, according to The Washington Post. Who had access to it? Who had it printed out the day after Joe Wilson’s article appeared in The New York Times? We don’t know. But the front of Airforce One is not exactly Grand Central station. Only a few get to go in there. If that was the original source of the leak, then it goes very high up.

Cheney is a prime suspect because a) he took a keen interest in the WMD case; b) he is known for hardball tactics; and c) Fitzgerald has ordered five top Cheney aides and Cheney himself to testify. Did Libby do something his boss was unaware of? We don’t know. Would Libby shield Cheney? We don’t know that either. Then there is the question of who might have contradicted Libby’s or Rove’s accounts. It could be anyone in the bureacracy for all we know. But we found out last week from The Washington Post that none other than Colin Powell has been questioned by the prosecutor. It was the Powell angle that led to the political-barometric drop in DC last week. Powell is still seething over his United Nations humiliation on WMD intelligence.

He may have scores to settle. Rove and Libby would be prime targets, with Cheney looming behind them. What we are witnessing in Washington may be the sudden collapse of discipline within the Bush administration, past and present. The factions that fought over the Iraq war are re-emerging — but this time in public and under oath.

From The ‘background noise’ sounds bad for Bush by Andrew Sullivan on October 23, 2005

Link:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2092-1838378,00.html


Ouch.


Peace.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 07:38 PM
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18. Yes, "that" Andrew Sullivan ....
Peace.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:24 PM
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21. "But in a twist apparently designed to get Libby's attention, ...
... Fitzgerald said twice that he suspected Libby may have preferred Miller to keep quiet about their talks.

Libby, after months of silence, quickly wrote Miller.
He told her she was missed. He declared that he would be better off if she testified, and he made clear he was freeing her from her pledge.

Miller testified, and Fitzgerald prepared to wrap up his inquiry, but not without a final surprise. A lawyer familiar with Miller's grand jury testimony said the special counsel asked her to discuss all relevant conversations she had with Libby before Novak published Plame's name. When Miller detailed two July 2003 discussions and said she could not remember any others, Fitzgerald begged to differ.

He showed her a page from a White House logbook that recorded a June 23 visit by Miller to Libby at the Old Executive Office Building.
Miller corrected herself and soon produced for the grand jury her notes from that meeting.

From Inquiry as Exacting As Special Counsel Is: A Tough Investigation Is Also Praised as Nonpartisan

By Peter Slevin and Carol D. Leonnig
Washington Post Staff Writers
Monday, October 24, 2005; A03

Link:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/23/AR2005102301028_pf.html


Why was it important to document that Libby and Miller spoke to one another in June, 2003?

Most folk reading DU realize the implications. So do Bush and Cheney.

You betcha.


Peace.



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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 04:23 AM
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24. After a Year of research on all these guys for my "Rove's War" film
at Takebackthemedia.com I realised that Rove/Libby/Cheney, etc had INTENTIONALLY created a "poison pill" within the context of the outing that was shared with WHOEVER GOT THE WORD AT THE START..

and that was the insertion of PRE-SPIN from the start - everyone that was told got the same info "Plame CHOSE or SENT her husband to Niger" "It was a boondoggle arranged by his own wife", etc, etc..

They KNEW that someone might catch on, and that if the press found out about it, the info they had given out had "Preinstalled Talking Points".. They added more Republican talking points later, but they weren't as crucial as the goodies they basically engineered the leaks in advance.

Think about that while you look at all the info on this, remember that, keep it in the back of your mind, because it shows INTENT and PLANNING...
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:59 AM
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25. WHIGs purpose was to market the war on Iraq. They all knew they ...
.... had no legal or intelligence justification for the product they were marketing. Thus, they had to have planned for how they were going to deal with leaks -- i.e., the truth.

They did a very effective job of it. They owned the media and they thought they controled both folk within Blair's cabinet and intelligence service, as well as, had a lock on the CIA and State. They were wrong.

But, their gravest tactical mistake was that they never anticipated was Comey appointing Fitzgerald as an "Attorney General" and that the DoJ would make the case to the GAO to fund the investigation because, de facto, Comey had made Fitzgerald not just "Special Counsel" but because he was to act as an "Independent Counsel" under exactly the legal scope of an IC.

If it is true that Fitzgerald was already studying the Niger forgeries in 2004, and I have no reason to doubt that he had not only the documents but access to experts who had thoroughly discredited the document and, most likely, had traced it to the person(s) responsible.

In other words, Bush and the neoconsters are going to face capital crimes charges before this is over.


Peace.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 04:57 AM
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27. Agreed
That's where they left themselves wide open.. they forgot. They in their hubris and arrogance THOUGHT that Independent Counsel was GONE - the clock had run out, Bush would never appoint or allow one.

BUt that raises another interesting point, now that you mention it.. the GAO has been getting pretty PEEVED at the Bush admin, they've been ignored and shut down at every turn - what the Bush people forgot was the Old Timers in the GAO HAD POWER and CONTACTS, as well as the CIA, FBI, etc..

As soon as I saw Bush BLAMING the CIA, a bell went off in my head, "Oh THIS can't be GOOD.. who the hell screws the CIA? His DADDY had PALS in the CIA, they KILL people, might have Killed Kennedy for all we know, and this guy thinks that because he's offered perhaps Tenet a job as a Rent a Cop in the Carlyle Group later that there aren't OLD TIMERS, actual PATRIOTS, REAL REPUBLICANS from the Eisenhower Era STill there that didn't want a PIECE of either Bush/Cheney or Some of the ACTION?"

Dumb. And this is how it happens folks. Too many "false realities" that cannot be maintained by so many, it falls apart at some point every time.

The GAO, FBI, CIA was simply tired of getting shit on, and then when the Cabal started literally Killing agents off, they all stepped in.. Larry Johson said at the Waxman Hearing with other ex CIA agents that he doesn't like a BULLY, and when HE sees Bullies beating up on a WOMAN he is going to step in and take action..

I loved that part of the hearing. A Decent man who knows where the lines are drawn, and who even voted for Bush because he got tired of having people (his words) in the WHite House argueing over what the definition of "is" IS.. Now he's afraid of what the definition of what "Leak" IS..

ANd then when Marcinkowski speaks (saw him speak in Detroit at the Conyers DSM House party event as well) you see midwest values from people who were willing to DIE for a country that was THE COUNTRY THEY GREW UP IN.. not one that's been repurposed for Graft, Greed, etc..

Like my friend says, "This is where America USED to Be.."

Appreciate your posts UL, where do you find the TIME assembling ALL this incredible information? Wish I'd had a lifeline to you when I was puzzling this all out for my film, I'd have saved MONTHS of brain burn :)
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 01:47 PM
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26. ""Libby wanted to discredit him right from the start," one source close
... to the investigation told RAW STORY. "He used David Wurmser to help him do that.""

Neither Wurmser or Libby could be reached for comment.

<clip>

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Cheney_aide_passed_Plames_name_to_1024.html


Sorta sad that the efforts to paint Libby result in everyone else finding their way into exactly the picture they've all tried to escape.


Peace.

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