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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 01:03 PM
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Dear Condi, you anti-American, prevaricating poor
Edited on Sun Oct-23-05 01:04 PM by Cleita
excuse for a SOS. My BS meter shoots to the very top everytime you try to justify what your administration is doing in Iraq. The latest insult to my intelligence is to compare what your cronies are doing to rebuild Iraq to the rebuilding of Europe after WWII. You conveniently omitted to mention the idea that made it possible, the Marshall Plan.

The Marshall plan as implemented back then was progressive and put the money where it was needed not in the pockets of Dick Cheney's companies that are in his stock portfolio. I am not sending you an actual letter because I know your goons lurk at this site all the time, so they can pass this on to you.

However, here are some facts for you to digest, available at our own government's website.

http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/infousa/facts/democrac/57.htm



THE MARSHALL PLAN (1947)
On June 5, 1947, Secretary of State George C. Marshall spoke at Harvard University and outlined what would become known as the Marshall Plan. Europe, still devastated by the war, had just survived one of the worst winters on record. The nations of Europe had nothing to sell for hard currency, and the democratic socialist governments in most countries were unwilling to adopt the draconian proposals for recovery advocated by old-line classical economists. Something had to be done, both for humanitarian reasons and also to stop the potential spread of communism westward.

The United States offered up to $20 billion for relief, but only if the European nations could get together and draw up a rational plan on how they would use the aid. For the first time, they would have to act as a single economic unit; they would have to cooperate with each other. Marshall also offered aid to the Soviet Union and its allies in eastern Europe, but Stalin denounced the program as a trick and refused to participate. The Russian rejection probably made passage of the measure through Congress possible.

The Marshall Plan, it should be noted, benefited the American economy as well. The money would be used to buy goods from the United States, and they had to be shipped across the Atlantic on American merchant vessels. But it worked. By 1953 the United States had pumped in $13 billion, and Europe was standing on its feet again. Moreover, the Plan included West Germany, which was thus reintegrated into the European community. (The aid was all economic; it did not include military aid until after the Korean War.)

Aside from helping to put Europe back on its feet, the Marshall Plan led to the Schuman Plan, which in turn led to Euratom, then the Coal and Iron Community and the Common Market, and pointed to what may yet evolve into an economically and politically united Europe. In many ways, the Marshall Plan satisfied both those who wanted our foreign policy to be generous and idealistic and those who demanded realpolitik; it helped feed the starving and shelter the homeless, and at the same time stopped the spread of communism and put the European economy back on its feet.

For further reading: John Gimbel, The Origins of the Marshall Plan (1976); Imanuel Wexler, The Marshall Plan Revisited (1983); Michael Hogan, The Marshall Plan (1987).


THE MARSHALL PLAN
I need not tell you gentlemen that the world situation is very serious. That must be apparent to all intelligent people. I think one difficulty is that the problem is one of such enormous complexity that the very mass of facts presented to the public by press and radio make it exceedingly difficult for the man in the street to reach a clear appraisement of the situation. Furthermore, the people of this country are distant from the troubled areas of the earth and it is hard for them to comprehend the plight and consequent reaction of the long-suffering peoples, and the effect of those reactions on their governments in connection with our efforts to promote peace in the world.

In considering the requirements for the rehabilitation of Europe the physical loss of life, the visible destruction of cities, factories, mines, and railroads was correctly estimated, but it has become obvious during recent months that this visible destruction was probably less serious than the dislocation of the entire fabric of European economy. For the past 10 years conditions have been highly abnormal. The feverish maintenance of the war effort engulfed all aspects of national economics. Machinery has fallen into disrepair or is entirely obsolete. Under the arbitrary and destructive Nazi rule, virtually every possible enterprise was geared into the German war machine. Long-standing commercial ties, private institutions, banks, insurance companies and shipping companies disappeared, through the loss of capital, absorption through nationalization or by simple destruction. In many countries, confidence in the local currency has been severely shaken. The breakdown of the business structure of Europe during the war was complete. Recovery has been seriously retarded by the fact that 2 years after the close of hostilities a peace settlement with Germany and Austria has not been agreed upon. But even given a more prompt solution of these difficult problems, the rehabilitation of the economic structure of Europe quite evidently will require a much longer time and greater effort than had been foreseen.

There is a phase of this matter which is both interesting and serious. The farmer has always produced the foodstuffs to exchange with the city dweller for the other necessities of life. This division of labor is the basis of modern civilization. At the present time it is threatened with breakdown. The town and city industries are not producing adequate goods to exchange with the food-producing farmer. Raw materials and fuel are in short supply. Machinery is lacking or worn out. The farmer or the peasant cannot find the goods for sale which he desires to purchase. So the sale of his farm produce for money which he cannot use seems to him unprofitable transaction. He, therefore, has withdrawn many fields from crop cultivation and is using them for grazing. He feeds more grain to stock and finds for himself and his family an ample supply of food, however short he may be on clothing and the other ordinary gadgets of civilization. Meanwhile people in the cities are short of food and fuel. So the governments are forced to use their foreign money and credits to procure these necessities abroad. This process exhausts funds which are urgently needed for reconstruction. Thus a very serious situation is rapidly developing which bodes no good for the world. The modern system of the division of labor upon which the exchange of products is based is in danger of breaking down.

The truth of the matter is that Europe's requirements for the next 3 or 4 years of foreign food and other essential products -- principally from America -- are so much greater than her present ability to pay that she must have substantial additional help, or face economic, social, and political deterioration of a very grave character.

The remedy lies in breaking the vicious circle and restoring the confidence of the European people in the economic future of their own countries and of Europe as a whole. The manufacturer and the farmer throughout wide areas must be able and willing to exchange their products for currencies the continuing value of which is not open to question.

Aside from the demoralizing effect on the world at large and the possibilities of disturbances arising as a result of the desperation of the people concerned, the consequences to the economy of the United States should be apparent to all. It is logical that the United States should do whatever it is able to do to assist in the return of normal economic health in the world, without which there can be no political stability and no assured peace. Our policy is directed not against any country or doctrine but against hunger, poverty, desperation, and chaos. Its purpose should be the revival of working economy in the world so as to permit the emergence of political and social conditions in which free institutions can exist. Such assistance, I am convinced, must not be on a piecemeal basis as various crises develop. Any assistance that this Government may render in the future should provide a cure rather than a mere palliative. Any government that is willing to assist in the task of recovery will find full cooperation, I am sure, on the part of the United States Government. Any government which maneuvers to block the recovery of other countries cannot expect help from us. Furthermore, governments, political parties, or groups which seek to perpetuate human misery in order to profit therefrom politically or otherwise will encounter the opposition of the United States.

It is already evident that, before the United States Government can proceed much further in its efforts to alleviate the situation and help start the European world on its way to recovery, there must be some agreement among the countries of Europe as to the requirements of the situation and the part those countries themselves will take in order to give proper effect to whatever action might be undertaken by this Government. It would be neither fitting nor efficacious for this Government to undertake to draw up unilaterally a program designed to place Europe on its feet economically. This is the business of the Europeans. The initiative, I think, must come from Europe. The role of this country should consist of friendly aid in the drafting of a European program so far as it may be practical for us to do so. The program should be a joint one, agreed to by a number, if not all European nations.

An essential part of any successful action on the part of the United States is an understanding on the part of the people of America of the character of the problem and the remedies to be applied. Political passion and prejudice should have no part. With foresight, and a willingness on the part of our people to face up to the vast responsibilities which history has clearly placed upon our country, the difficulties I have outlined can and will be overcome.

Source: Congressional Record, 30 June 1947.


The truth is Madam Secretary of the State is that we are going to need a Marshall Plan in our own country when you and BushCo are through with wrecking our economy and making enemies all over the world for us where none existed before.

Incidentally, honey, you contradicted yourself, or "flip-flopped" three times during this congressional hearing that had happened this past Wednesday. That's what happens when you keep getting caught up in your lies.



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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 01:14 PM
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1. Ha ha!
I thought she was supposed to be a prodigy. She is a traitor, IMO.
She should be rounded up with the rest of them and deported.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 01:21 PM
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3. She is a traitor
in more ways than seventeen. Forget deportation. No one wants these slimebuckets. Lock 'em all up securely in underground luxury WITHOUT ANY OUTSIDE COMMUNICATION in those bunkers they've built under DC, VA and MD.
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 01:20 PM
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2. It is a good thing that you posted this..
Because history and civics is no longer taught in the public schools and only God knows what is taught in home-schooling other than racism.

Today's students, including those in college, haven't the foggiest idea of what you are talking about when you mention such "ancient" plans and solutions as the Marshall Plan.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 01:33 PM
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4. Having been born in 1940, I am old enough to remember
when these things happened the first time. Don't they even teach history anymore in school?
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 04:11 PM
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7. I've got you beat by three years LOL!
From what I have heard, all history and civics classes have been severely curtailed. Seems like there is some dissent about teaching any history that includes contributions by African Americans and civil rights, etc (among other controversial subjects.)

It seems that some of the red states especially don't like teaching that they actually lost the civil war or that their grandparents may have been wrong in lynching people of color.

But all in all, there is no longer a consensus about what ACTUALLY happened not only in American history but also in World History.

If you think bac, one of Bush's staffers said that while we were still thinking, THEY were actually writing history (or something like that - I paraphrased it wildly.)
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 02:44 PM
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5. That bigass gap makes it very easy for her to lie through her teeth.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 03:53 PM
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6. LOL. She looks more evil at that hearing than ever before.
I think she needs a Dorian Grey portrait in her attic, to take on the meaness in her visage for her.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 01:08 PM
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8. Kick
For those who heard of the Marshall Plan, but didn't get any history on it in school.
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