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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 01:26 PM
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Bob Schieffer of Face the Nation responds PERSONALLY to my letter!
And ain't this a feather in my hat! la dee dah!!

And here's the evidence:

----- Original Message -----
From: Schieffer, Bob
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 8:58 AM
Subject: RE: To Bob Schieffer: comments re Rice Interview

Thanks it was tough going for awhile there and I appreciate that you took the time to share your thoughts. Bob Schieffer

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Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 12:36 PM
To: Face The Nation
Subject: To Bob Schieffer: comments re Rice Interview

Dear Bob:

I just watched the interview with Condi Rice. I appreciate that you asked the tough questions of her. (Reference ABC's The Note where they just call this a bunch of politicizing by Dem candidates to muster voter support from the average anti-war citizen! Arrggh).

I was appalled at Rice's suggestion that pre-war intelligence is a just a simple "datapoint". The American people allowed Bush to have his little war because he convinced the populace that Saddam posed an imminent threat to the USA. "In "45 min" Saddam could blow us to smitherenes!" The forged Niger 'intelligence' was SALIENT to their argument. It was not part of a long list of "datapoints." The arrogance of this administration is infuriating. A "mistake" in a speech is not the issue. We went to WAR...we killed probably 10,000 people. We have bankrupted our country. We can't get out of Iraq for YEARS! The World hates the USA. The cost of this "war" could re-fund every bankrupt state in our country and stabilize what looks to be a depression-bound path. More terrorists have been recruited in the last 6 months than ever before. And at this point, I can hardly blame any person for hating the USA. We are the most dangerous rogue nation on earth. Everyone knows it.

A datapoint? A datapoint?

The MOST insulting part of this entire thing is the White House could care less WHO forged the Niger document or WHY or HOW it got into our hands. They don't care ...and as Ari ends his term as white house press secretary (and gets an award for impeccable timing!), the White House only wants us to stop talking about this. Please don't..... please don't bury this under the invisible rug. If the White House had been legitimately "fooled" with this intelligence, it would be looking for heads to roll in regard to WHO forged the document. They only want the press to stop bringing it up.

Bottom line: Cheney and Bush needed to dazzle the American public with fear of NUCLEAR bombs raining over us. And they trumped up their case for war because they wanted to go to war. Months into Iraq, no WMD found. Hmmmmmm, and the UN inspectors couldn't have been given a few months to search in March? That's the argument. Everything Condi cited in her "Saddam was such a bad guy" diatribe was info gained from the UN. Why couldn't 1000s of lives and many of our own soldiers' lives been saved by letting the UN do its job. Apparently, Condi sure appreciates all the intelligence the UN had obtained. The answer, and we ALL know it: Bush wanted a war. And he wanted the oil. And he wanted to line the pockets of the Carlyle Group and Halliburton. Mission Accomplished indeed.

Does no one remember that MILLIONS of people the world over marched in protest of this war. Millions here and abroad. Millions of regular people who knew the score. We all knew that this "imminent threat" stuff was bullcorn. We all knew that the White House was creating their own case for war in spite of the facts that Saddam was (1) not connected to 9/11; and (2) that he did not pose an imminent threat to the USA or anyone. We all knew this. We didn't need an intelligence agency to tell us yea or nea. Yet, our numbers were greatly minimized and we were painted by the PRESS as unpatriotic. We were abjectly slandered by the press and by the White House. How did MILLIONS of people call this one correctly and the White House just sort of made a little mistake? The USA's character in the world arena is forever tainted. The Bush doctrine of pre-emptive strike will forever shed a dark shadow on our reputation -- very similar to our legacy in regard to slavery.

And she calls this a datapoint? I am not only infuriated; I am astonished at the White House's ability to just wave off any bad info. If you recall, the White House kept saying: "we have the intelligence to justify this; there are things we can't say because it would threaten National Security." The only threat to our national security is the Bush Administration. To watch this great nation go down the tubes is one thing; to be LIED to and told later by the White House that the LIE was a simple 'datapoint' is infuriating.

But, thanks for asking the hard questions. Condi really wanted to get out of that interview, didn't she? Just get out her talking points and flee. I am sure she will have a much more pleasant experience over at Faux.

But I have to ask, when will the press insist that Mr. Bush actually answer some unscripted questions here on US soil? He needs to explain himself. Of course, the public has gotten used to the idea that Bush doesn't really know anything about anything. His "people" tell him just what he needs to know and tell him what to say, when to say it, how to say it and, most importantly, when to shut up. Do we even have a president? Apparently, everything is taken care of by agency heads. Oh, how I long for the Carter days -- when we had a president who worked really hard -- who ran the show -- who was so involved with his job that he could actually answer questions about what was going on rather than sending out royal messengers to issue the daily proclamation. The American public has bought into this arrangement, but I feel that they are going to wise up and boot these crooks and murderers out in 2004, if not before, via impeachment.





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lkinsale Donating Member (662 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 01:30 PM
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"It was tough going for awhile there..."?
Great that he replied! I wonder what he meant.
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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 01:43 PM
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4. Tough going there for a while......
I think that was a double entendre.......quite frankly. Clever little devil.

Meaning.....the interview with Rice itself.....but my gut tells me that he means...the COVERUP for Bush for the last 2.5 years was tough going for him.....and for us!

I take it as a good stand.

Maybe the powers that be in the top eschelons of the networks said...OKAY, boys, resume your roles as real journalists.....

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lkinsale Donating Member (662 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 02:44 PM
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12. That's kinda what I thought too
That's why I asked.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 01:30 PM
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1. Good letter! Good job! CBS broke this story - they need encouragement
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 01:31 PM
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2. Congrats, DagamrK! Although judging by the brevity
and poor punctuation, this post might not have been written by Schiffer....

Is your handle a reference to Henry Cow/ Slapp Happy vocalist Dagmar Krause? If it is, bravo on such a cool choice of name!
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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 01:45 PM
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5. I think the brevity of his response.....
tells me that it IS from him personally......

If it was from a staff member......it would have been the standard stock "thanks for watching the show and for your feedback". Oh yeah...this is from Bob! :-)

Dagmar......well......I ain't so cool to know who Dagmar Krause is...but I will surely look up the music cause I am a music fiend!

Dagmar.....I don't know...must be a past life name, cause I have always liked the name....even considered changing my name of Robin to Dagmar. I get a lot of "icks" when I suggest it. Oh well. LOL
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 01:32 PM
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3. Congrats, DagmarK! Although judging by the brevity
and poor punctuation, this post might not have been written by Schiffer....

Is your handle a reference to Henry Cow/ Slapp Happy vocalist Dagmar Krause? If it is, bravo on such a cool choice of name!
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 01:51 PM
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7. "judging by the brevity"
I disagree.

I've had a few replies from Helen Thomas.
VERY brief, unpunctuated.
these are busy people.
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 02:40 PM
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10. Great letter
Yes a really great letter. And I think the reply is certainly from him.

Hey! I got a reply once from Helen Thomas too! She said -- "Thanks".
And that was more than enough.
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chadm Donating Member (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 02:43 PM
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11. right...
most likely written on a blackberry or something. seems authentic to me.
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Sophree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 01:50 PM
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6. Great rant, Dagmark
:toast:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 02:02 PM
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8. How could he not reply? That was a great e-mail to Bob!
Thank you for watching and for writing to him your salient points on the interview.
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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 02:17 PM
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9. Thanks y'all for the thanks and kudos on my rant!
I was incensed at what Rice was suggesting. And this was written BEFORE the boy king came out and said Iraq refused to let the UN inspectors in. ugh!

And thanks to DU for giving me the heads up to WATCH the Sunday programs. I turned them off MONTHS AGO!
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 02:47 PM
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13. Hey Dagmark....
After the previous Rice interview, I emailed him about letting Condi spin, spin, spin and never letting Robin Wright ask a question. Schieffer responded and said he'd do better next time.
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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 07:18 PM
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14. Hey hey Alcuno.........
I guess we double-teamed him.....

I should say he *did* do a much better job this time.

Of course, he didn't get Condi to tell the truth......but getting these thugs to lie on camera is just as important.
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