I feel silly starting this thread but mine is long over due. Thanks DU.

[helderheid]

This is probably my 5000 post or close to it. I have had my "issues" here but I have to say that DU is a haven for me and I am truly truly grateful to be here with all y'all. I'm in Utah. You people keep me sane. Not to say we don't have some damn fine progressives here - but we're the minority.

THANK YOU DU.

[helderheid]

1. damn... past 5000

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Member since Jan 23rd 2004
Number of posts 5056
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[Hissyspit]

5. They start to go by really quickly!

I rememeber counting every post up to 1,000. Now I have no idea how many posts I have.

[helderheid]

8. thanks!! You have ....

3731 :)

[phusion]

2. Hey helderheid

:yourock: I like your posts!

Thanks for being a part of DU. :toast:

[helderheid]

3. you made my night! Thank you!! :)

:) :)

[Red State Lib]

4. Congrats

from a newbie here at DU. Less than 50 posts but GOD I could write all night and following day about the GOP and the Bush Family Evil Empire. Keep those posts coming. I look forward to reading them!@

[helderheid]

9. WELCOME!!

[Red State Lib]

12. tHANKS DUDE (OR CHICK)

N/T BIT I'LL TALK TO YA MORE LATER, MY PRIVELEGE AND HONOR. 5,000 POSTS......DAMN......

[Hamlette]

6. hey helder, in Utah too!

I'm in Salt Lake, love it but it is certainly conservative. And I agree, DU and my progressive friends keep me sane!

[helderheid]

10. Hope you are on our mailing list!

www.udpc.org

I'm in Sandy :)

[Sydnie]

7. I hear you and agree

Even here in blue, blue Massachusetts, it's hard to find someone that will have an indepth conversation about politics and these current affairs. Not because they don't agree, but mainly because they do. It ends up being a conversation that goes like this:

Did you hear about ....
Yes, aren't/isn't they/it just unbelieveable?
Yes, and they did this too ...
Oh I know, I don't put anything past these bastards ...

Not a great deal of idea exchange because we are, mostly, on the same page. But you know what ... I think the pending indictments will change that landscape here. I think conversations will get deeper and longer and maybe even a bit hotter ...I can't wait.

But DU has been a lifeline for me and I am ever so grateful for it and for everyone here.

I join you in that :grouphug:!

[helderheid]

11. thanks!

[welshTerrier2]

13. you need a visit to, ta dum, the Argument Clinic

here ya go ... from the classic Monty Python sketch:

M: Ah. I'd like to have an argument, please.
R: Certainly sir. Have you been here before?
M: No, I haven't, this is my first time.
R: I see. Well, do you want to have just one argument, or were you thinking of taking a course?
M: Well, what is the cost?
R: Well, It's one pound for a five minute argument, but only eight pounds for a course of ten.
M: Well, I think it would be best if I perhaps started off with just the one and then see how it goes.
R: Fine. Well, I'll see who's free at the moment.
Pause
R: Mr. DeBakey's free, but he's a little bit conciliatory.
Ahh yes, Try Mr. Barnard; room 12.
M: Thank you.

(Walks down the hall. Opens door.)

Q: WHAT DO YOU WANT?
M: Well, I was told outside that...
Q: Don't give me that, you snotty-faced heap of parrot droppings!
M: What?
Q: Shut your festering gob, you tit! Your type really makes me puke, you vacuous, coffee-nosed, maloderous, pervert!!!
M: Look, I CAME HERE FOR AN ARGUMENT, I'm not going to just stand...!!
Q: OH, oh I'm sorry, but this is abuse.
M: Oh, I see, well, that explains it.
Q: Ah yes, you want room 12A, Just along the corridor.
M: Oh, Thank you very much. Sorry.
Q: Not at all.
M: Thank You.
(Under his breath) Stupid git!!

(Walk down the corridor)
M: (Knock)
A: Come in.
M: Ah, Is this the right room for an argument?
A: I told you once.
M: No you haven't.
A: Yes I have.
M: When?
A: Just now.
M: No you didn't.
A: Yes I did.
M: You didn't
A: I did!
M: You didn't!
A: I'm telling you I did!
M: You did not!!
A: Oh, I'm sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?
M: Oh, just the five minutes.
A: Ah, thank you. Anyway, I did.
M: You most certainly did not.
A: Look, let's get this thing clear; I quite definitely told you.
M: No you did not.
A: Yes I did.
M: No you didn't.
A: Yes I did.
M: No you didn't.
A: Yes I did.
M: No you didn't.
A: Yes I did.
M: You didn't.
A: Did.
M: Oh look, this isn't an argument.
A: Yes it is.
M: No it isn't. It's just contradiction.
A: No it isn't.
M: It is!
A: It is not.
M: Look, you just contradicted me.
A: I did not.
M: Oh you did!!
A: No, no, no.
M: You did just then.
A: Nonsense!
M: Oh, this is futile!
A: No it isn't.
M: I came here for a good argument.
A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
A: It can be.
M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
A: No it isn't.
M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
A: Yes it is!
M: No it isn't!

A: Yes it is!
M: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes.
(short pause)
A: No it isn't.
M: It is.
A: Not at all.
M: Now look.
A: (Rings bell) Good Morning.
M: What?
A: That's it. Good morning.
M: I was just getting interested.
A: Sorry, the five minutes is up.
M: That was never five minutes!
A: I'm afraid it was.
M: It wasn't.
Pause
A: I'm sorry, but I'm not allowed to argue anymore.
M: What?!
A: If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another five minutes.
M: Yes, but that was never five minutes, just now. Oh come on!
A: (Hums)
M: Look, this is ridiculous.
A: I'm sorry, but I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid!
M: Oh, all right.
(pays money)
A: Thank you.
short pause
M: Well?
A: Well what?
M: That wasn't really five minutes, just now.
A: I told you, I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid.
M: I just paid!
A: No you didn't.
M: I DID!
A: No you didn't.
M: Look, I don't want to argue about that.
A: Well, you didn't pay.
M: Aha. If I didn't pay, why are you arguing? I Got you!
A: No you haven't.
M: Yes I have. If you're arguing, I must have paid.
A: Not necessarily. I could be arguing in my spare time.
M: Oh I've had enough of this.
A: No you haven't.
M: Oh Shut up.

(Walks down the stairs. Opens door.)

M: I want to complain.
C: You want to complain! Look at these shoes. I've only had them three weeks and the heels are worn right through.
M: No, I want to complain about...
C: If you complain nothing happens, you might as well not bother.
M: Oh!
C: Oh my back hurts, it's not a very fine day and I'm sick and tired of this office.


(Slams door. walks down corridor, opens next door.)

M: Hello, I want to... Ooooh!
H: No, no, no. Hold your head like this, then go Waaah. Try it again.
M: uuuwwhh!!
H: Better, Better, but Waah, Waah! Put your hand there.
M: No.
H: Now..
M: Waaaaah!!!
H: Good, Good! That's it.
M: Stop hitting me!!
H: What?
M: Stop hitting me!!
H: Stop hitting you?
M: Yes!
H: Why did you come in here then?
M: I wanted to complain.
H: Oh no, that's next door. It's being-hit-on-the-head lessons in here.
M: What a stupid concept.

[Sydnie]

15. One of my absolute favorites!

:applause:

Just don't call me late because "if you're late you miss the cream of mushroom soup, the first item on the list of international cuisine"!

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

14. From an Alabama Liberal, I'll thank you for being a part of DU!

Congrats! And I have a good idea how you feel being in a mainly republican state!