Woman wants Aflac to pay for husband's infidelity

[wndycty]

Did anyone know that Aflec was a "Christian" company?

Woman wants Aflac to pay for husband's infidelity
Naperville resident suing company for allowing breach of its moral standards when Tinley employee had affair

Monday, October 17, 2005

By Steve Patterson
Special to the Daily Southtown
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It was the firm's Christian foundation, morals and principles that attracted Lori Johnson to Aflac.

As a south suburban associate for the insurance company, Johnson said she was impressed by the prayer she saw at corporate meetings and the company's demand that associates not engage in "conduct involving moral turpitude, dishonesty, fraud, deceit (or) willful misrepresentation."

But that's exactly the kind of conduct Johnson says her ex-husband — also an Aflac associate — engaged in when he had an affair with another Aflac associate. Now, Johnson wants to hold the company to its moral standards.

In a lawsuit filed in August in Cook County Circuit Court, the Naperville woman says the company allowed behavior to go on that violates its own policies.

She says sex pictures of Ralph Johnson and Margo Moore were passed around the office, and the two bragged about their affair, as Ralph, a supervisor, steered clients from his wife to his lover.
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http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dsindex/17-ds2.htm

[Perky]

1. Is there something wrong with it being a Christian company?

[wndycty]

2. Nope, did I imply that? You have NEVER seen me bashing Christians. . .

. . .and this is not a bash. Its a simple question, did anyone know Aflec is a "Christian" company, more importantly does Aflec consider itself to be one? Just because one asks questions does not make it a bash.

[Perky]

3. Nor did I suggest it was a bash

I was merely asking the question.

[wndycty]

4. OK, but what prompted the question. . .where did it come from?

Please explain.

[bahrbearian]

5. Your the one to put the Emphasis on it being Christian.

[Perky]

12. You seemd to be raising it as the reason for the post.

[wndycty]

23. If that were the case I would have put it in the title

And whenever I post, if I have a question I put it before the article that is linked.

[Perky]

29. Sorry it just that it sets up some folks (not you)

to take potshots at the Church and Christians. As noted in some of the posts in this thread.

From my point of view, if you has asked everyone if they knew it was an African-american or a jewish company, you would have been called on it for ininuating that it made a difference.


But if people had started bashing jews or using the N-word they would have been blasted by everybody on the site.

But apparently it is ok to Bash Christians....and nobody gets called for it. I am not saying you did...you didn't....clearly....but there is a pretty stunning double standard.

Again please understand I am not suggesting what you said was provided at bait....just remarking on how tolerance seems to work on DU.

[TahitiNut]

26. I didn't know that "Incorporate!" was the answer to "WWJD"

Gee. Go figure. :eyes:

[whatever4]

6. "prayer she saw at corporate meetings"

Wait, was that "prayer she saw at corporate meetings" she saw prayer first hand? I think she's got a case, and, I hope she wins. HA! "steered clients from his wife to his lover", and "sex pictures of Ralph Johnson and Margo Moore were passed around the office" what a joke! The entire office knew, they supported it, she's absolutely right, they violated all their stated principles. hahaha As the self-righteous almost always do.

They have to. Breaking the rules to have "fun" is the only thing they understand, the fundies. Everybody is good, everybody is perfect, it's all a facade...and how many children were raped in those hallowed halls? How many children cried and suffered, not even knowing what was happening to them or why? While their pitiful eyes fell upon religious symbols, and the holy this and the holy that, all around them, like a focal points for despair. The cross and suffering, how nobel and how meaningless their vile use to appease the loins of dishonest and cowardly "leaders", and so now, those "leaders" target homosexuals.

While they search for other children, in other nations, fresh meat from those who want to be helped, those that need saving, those most trusting. They're always so useful, the trusting.

She trusted? Some things never change. Lies.

Religion?

I hope she wins.

[Skidmore]

8. I hope she wins too. Peel back the veil of the theocracy to be

here in the country. Let people decide if this nannystate is really what they want. Do you want your corporation and your govt in your bedroom?

[whatever4]

14. No doubt

and if you let them in, as it looks like she sort of has, they won't even help you. Because if you need help...if you need help then you aren't really one of "them" in the first place. If you need "help" with any issues one of them have caused, then you're an "other".

That's what so many of the flock don't understand, imho, that they'll turn on their own in a heartbeat, to cover up lies. I happens again and again. They forget to never trust a liar.

[TahitiNut]

27. It seems to me there might be a case.

If the management and practices at the company actually rewarded behavior contrary to its stated policies, the very fact that the behavior was rewarded could constitute complicity in harming her.

[GreenPartyVoter]

7. It would be funny except that this woman is really hurting. She has a

point in a way, but she also learned a hard lesson. Just because a workplace says they are Christian doesn't mean your husband is "safer" from committing adultery.

[mzteris]

11. churches are scandal laden

Preachers running off with secretaries and the church treasury are a dime a dozen.

[whatever4]

15. I agree with that too

Though I don't blame the workplace for her hurt. It was her husband that did that, willfully, and apparently, in living color, with pics to work friends, Christain friggin work friends. What a jerk. It must hurt a lot.

[elehhhhna]

19. If they've got Jesus on the front door...

There's something UGLY going on out back.

Old, true Texas saying.

[ComerPerro]

9. Yeah, lady. They are going to pay you because your husband cheated on you

Was it the Christian values that brought you to Aflac, or was it the fact that your husband was employed there?

Come on...

Sounds like her husband was a real top notch Christian too, complete with moral values and everything.

She probably voted for Bush for his moral values, as well.


She really knows how to pick 'em, doesn't she.

LMFAO

[BiggJawn]

10. Goes to show that there's a lawyer to take ANY case.

She could have a case that she suffered financial harm from her ex steering business to his playmate instead of her, but I fail to see how the company would be liable for his conduct.

[China_cat]

13. I don't think she's talking so much

about his actual conduct as she is the company's acceptance of that conduct contrary to WRITTEN company policy. On those grounds, she has a case.

[bleedingheart]

21. I agree... especially if the entire office knew about it and she

was kept in the dark. That would be a clear violation of their company policy.

[mazzarro]

16. She may be over stepping in her claims

I think the only valid issues are the "alleged" steering of business away from her and the "anguish" caused by the pictures/stories in the office if these can be proven - I mean.

[Coyote_Bandit]

17. Even here in JOklahoma

rational folks are suspicious of those that use their faith to generate business. I know several *fundies* who will not hire small businessmen who have the little christian fish symbol on their business card or who otherwise advertise themselves as being 'christian.' I also know a large church that will not publish a business directory of its members and for its members because they are afraid they will be held liable for the malfeasance of those businesses. Claiming the christian label does not mean one is competent or professional or christian.

[elehhhhna]

20. Yep. Sometimes that Fish symbol is the ONLY credential they have!

[elehhhhna]

18. What? Did they sell their souls to Aflac? It's an EMPLOYER,

not a cult. Not a parent. Not a country. An employer. Sheesh.

[Horse with no Name]

22. Whatever happened to personal responsibility?

:shrug:
To start with...I find this particular statement a little disturbing
"It was the firm's Christian foundation, morals and principles that attracted Lori Johnson to Aflac."
I guess one would need to wonder why she sought a company with those particular values for a job FOR her husband?
Did this man have a history of dipping his ink in the company well before? So much so that his wife had to put her seal of approval on his job?
It seems there are some major issues in this relationship that started before AFLAC even entered the picture.

[Zenlitened]

24. Talk vs. walk, as usal, from the "morally superior" set.

Another business with a fish symbol in its window, essentially. Reason enough to stay away.

[TahitiNut]

25. "Don't eat the cookies in the lunch room!"

I'm sure that daily reminders of such a prohibition is very effective. :eyes:
Group obsessions, anyone?

("Don't think about a red elephant!")

[Norquist Nemesis]

28. Good ole' Naperville! ROFL!

Making the news again. This is going to hurt their #1 city in American to raise children mantra. :rofl:

This suit is just too funny! Yes, it's a town of 120,000 people, and yet everybody still knows everybody else's business! It sounds to me like this was one of those cases where the wife was the last to know and she wants revenge by whatever means she can find it.

As far as the Christian angle, of the suit, I don't think she has a prayer. It seems if employees are breaking a written standard of employee conduct that the issue would be between the rule/code breaking employee and the employer, not the spouse and employer. Particularly in this age of Employer having the upper hand with almost everything, she has no standing as far as I can tell.

Also, JMHO...When the OP refers to 'Christian', I didn't take it as bashing at all. In fact, it's not broadly Christians at all that most who post opinoins about the topic are referring to. Rather, it's specifically (IMO) the loudly proseletizing bible thumpers coming out of the woodwork and over every hill and dale in America that are being referenced.

[Perky]

30. Hold the phone

Simply because the Comany touts to be a Christian Organization does not mean their employees are toting their bible around the office all day. In fact they can't even ask about religion during the employment interviews.

[freestyle]

31. Did he fuck the duck? If not, what's the problem? n/t

[WI_DEM]

32. Why blame the company? she married the guy

they just employed him.