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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 05:59 PM
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Republicans that actually believe FOX isn't biased
I've debated with Republicans on other forums who think FOX News doesn't have a conservative bias. I ask them "If it doesn't, then how come you love it?"
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SensibleCenterist Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 06:11 PM
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1. If you tilt north 23 degrees
If you tilt north 23 degrees, then something else tilting north 23 degrees will look neutral to you.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 06:26 PM
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10. but isn't News supposed to reinforce what I already believe?!
Fox News viewers are, in fact, the dumbest, and the most poorly informed. More people watch Brian Williams on NBC than listen to Rush and watch Fox news combined.
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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 06:13 PM
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2. amazing, isn't it?
there is a guy who belongs to a mailing list I belong to and he's always going on and on about what a great, informative channel Faux is.

The rest of us just tell him he's nuts!! That Faux is nothing more than right wing propoganda.

What does he use as proof? He brags about their ratings. They only have good ratings because Faux knows how to cook the numbers!!

He is the only person I know who believes the 'fair & balanced' BS!!
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PatrioticLeftie Donating Member (909 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 06:16 PM
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5. I forget where, but
Once I was reading about which news source was more reliable, CNN made the top of the list, but Faux said their ratings speak for themselves.

Yes, it does. And it says that you can fool SOME of the people ALL of the time.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 06:20 PM
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7. CNN's ratings fluctuate because of different stories
at different times. Faux has the same core base of viewers who never change the channel for almost any reason and need their fix, kind of like junkies.
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PatrioticLeftie Donating Member (909 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 06:22 PM
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8. Well, I'm not completely sure
If it was CNN, but I know that that was what Faux said in response to not being number 1.
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PatrioticLeftie Donating Member (909 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 06:14 PM
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3. Use MMfA, that should refute all claims of neutrality
Remember, if you drill something long enough and loud enough, some will start to believe it.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 06:20 PM
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6. They interpret MMFA as on a witch hunt. MMFA has been "catapulted"
It makes no difference. These republicans are in a place where only their own cognition can negate itself, the ideology they follow interprets all else as a lie. "No spin zone=spin" They must come to this realization on their own. I typically like to point out how their arguments are self-defeating. "Try and out spin me, through your no spin mentality without spinning into a rhetorical frenzy." They cry and whine, but it usually leaves them speechless.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 06:15 PM
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4. Because it's biased in their direction, it seems unbiased to them.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 06:24 PM
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9. I don't get it. I like liberal radio, but it's *OBVIOUSLY* biased.
Edited on Sun Oct-16-05 06:24 PM by Marr
The Nation is biased. Biased in my direction, but biased.

I really think most of the Republicans who deny the bias of Fox News are lying and know it. Lying just doesn't bother them anymore.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 06:40 PM
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11. LOL Fox nuts are NUTS
Edited on Sun Oct-16-05 06:41 PM by wakeme2008
Before the thread got pulled on a Cruising Forum, the initial postered wanted to know why cruise lines do not care unbiased Fox over CNN International.. :crazy:

First CNNI IMHO is a much better news source than CNN. And you just may have to know the next days weather in Japan :silly: ......

Most posters said that Fox was just GOP talking points of the day,, but a couple just would not believe that, and all they wanted to talk about was the "liberal" CNN....

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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 06:42 PM
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12. It doesn't. It is bias toward the Saudis who along with Rupert own
it.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 06:45 PM
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13. Thinking is *hard* for the freeper-types, so Fox News
tells them what to think.

I have a couple of freeperish family members, and they have no idea how to digest a piece of breaking news unless they have watched Fox News for their direction/spin/influence.

I've seen it happen.

My Dad, who is a great progressive thinker (and DU member), always tells them when they are parroting the Fox News spin, "Hey, if I wanted to hear what Fox News thinks, I'd watch it for myself."


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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 06:51 PM
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14. They truly believe the "fair and balanced" scam. It's so sad.
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DemGirl7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 07:02 PM
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15. That's because they are republicans and they believe what they want to
Edited on Sun Oct-16-05 07:04 PM by DemGirl7
FOX is the most bias TV network, next to CBN(Chritian Broadcasting Network). Every show on it,is 100% pure Rightwing propaganda that would make Joseph Goebbels proud. Last semester, in my American Government and Politics Seminar, I wrote a research paper with the goal of proving the bias in FOX's reporting, in order to do so I compared Hannity & Colmes to PBS's Brooks and Shields, by reading their transcripts for 29 weeks. And the results were exactly what I expected, with the FOX show having a overwelming bias, and demonizing the left at every chance they got, with one or more incident for a total of 21 weeks, while on PBS, there were little demonizing going on, with one incident on one week. The ratio is 21 to 1, and the research speaks for itself.
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 07:07 PM
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16. Fox admitted they are bias...
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prescole Donating Member (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 08:06 PM
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17. Style over substance, personality over character
Look at the foxnews website, and you'll see that the whole operation is based on personalities, not news. CNN isn't perfect, but look at the cnn website, and you see news, not headshots.
Murdoch lowers standards at every media outlet he buys. He's a modern WR Hearst.
Where's Orson Welles when you need him?
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 08:44 PM
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18. Misleading Ratings
Faux has the highest ratings of a news cable channel, but that's blown way out of proportion.

For example, on any given night, 150,000,000 people will be watching television...Faux draw about 3,000,000...far less than the 7,000,000 watching ESPN or the 20,000,000 watching the lowest rated prime-time network show...or even the 3,500,000 who watch the top-rated New York City newscast.

In essence, Faux only appeals to a small fraction of the population, but compared against it poor competition (and that competition alone) the numbers look far larger than they are.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 08:50 PM
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19. Ive found most rethugs admit to the bias of faux
But then they say its balanced against all the other Liberal media out here.

Then I say "show me some examples of liberal bias in news, Ill match you example for example.." (other than yer Dan Rather conspiracy theory)

They usually back away about then, because they have no examples of a Liberal bias in media.

Then..I can name at least 12 far reicht wing hosts with their own cable news programs. Ask them how many Liberal hosts with their own shows they can name? There is none. KO is as close as we have to a Liberal /

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