How do you argue against the RW talking point that

[proud2BlibKansan]

* has placed more minorities in high offices than any previous president?

[rfranklin]

1. One day they will be judged on the content of their character...

and not the color of their skin. (Thasnk you to Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.)

A brown, yellow or red crook is no better than a white crook.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

3. Amen. n/t

[proud2BlibKansan]

11. good one

thanks

[brucefan]

2. He does it

so he dosen't have to respond to stupid talking points like this.

[The Backlash Cometh]

4. I don't know how true that is, but the fact that the Republicans have

rejected more minorities and women from high office than the Democrats, may have something to do with the final results.

[Cleita]

5. I would ask them to name them off.

Okay, Condi and Colin. So he had two African Americans in high office. He got a twofer with Condi being a woman. That is two more than anyone else, true, but I don't see a big African American, or Latino, or Asian American, or female presence through his administration. It's mostly white and male.

[NewJeffCT]

26. it's actually not bad

Bush has shown an ability to find incompetent people across race & gender:

Elaine Chao, Chinese-American woman as Sec. of Labor
Margaret Spellings, Sec. of Education, female
Rod Paige, previous Sec. of Education, African American
Al Gonzalez, Atty General, Latin-American

However, as I think somebody else pointed out, none of them are poor or even close to middle class, and that they'll eventually be judged on the content of their character & not the color of their skin.

[Cleita]

34. LOL. You made a good point.

He's named the most incompetent people to high administrative posts than any previous President in history. That's the best comeback yet.
:7

[meow2u3]

6. There is a one-word answer

Tokenism.

All those women and minorities Bush has in "powerful" positions are mere tokens to mask the rampant discrimination the regime practices against the female and minority masses.

[spanone]

7. I'd say a minority crook is as complicit as a non-minority crook.

Numbers mean nothing. Condi is as black as bush* when it comes to actually being an Afican American.

[OKNancy]

8. The masta' always liked to put his favorites in the

kitchen and the household. They were still slaves.

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That's a little over the top, but it's what popped in my head.

[Cleita]

12. That's what Harry Belefonte said, sort of.

He said that Condi and Colin like to be in Massa's house because it's warm there.

[turbo_satan]

9. I argue that Bush isn't racist. Rather, he's classist.

I don't believe that Bush has any problem whatsoever with skin color. I *do* believe, however, that he cares very much that all of his appointess have to have the same class ideology -- that neither government nor the wealthy have any responsibility for the care, support, or well-being of the less-fortunate among us. As long as they're of the "corporations uber alles" mind-set, they'll have a place in the Bush administration.

[bluedawg12]

10. It proves nothing.

Because the rest of the under class, to include black Americans did not appear on the RW radar as a social issue at all.

That is because the neocommrades dropped social activism after they were involved with the civil rights movement and then dumped Johnson over Nam- they became right wing scolds, and started attacking human rights movements and making fun of the women's movement, gay rights, environmentalists, they decided that these "soft" social issues would not bring them their goal: world dominance.

Condy, and Powel are where they are because Democrats and liberal fought for fairness in the work place and affirmative action in education not because of anything that Trixon, shrub senior, or fumblingFord, did.

[proud2BlibKansan]

14. wow great response

I like it :)

[Richard Steele]

13. For every one he's placed in office, he's put THOUSANDS on Unemployment.

[tulsakatz]

15. I would say.......

....it's not about minorities, it's about their religion!!

And really, a person's religious beliefs should not be a prerequisite for holding a govt position. Neither should minority status. It should be based on merit and whether or not their professional background qualifies them for the job.

[Rex]

16. How bout that he let the minorities in NOLA die because they were poor?

This could lead into a way for you to talk about Bush being an elitist, corporate bandit. Maybe hammer in the rich vs. poor or 'ownership' society stuff into their heads. Remind them how poor they are as compared to Cheney or Boosh.

If they bring up RW talking points about NOLA, ask them why it only took Boosh 2 days to get aid to Pakistan, but 5 days to get aid to fellow Americans.

[Why Syzygy]

17. SO WHAT?

He has started world war III.

Is that an even trade?

[proud2BlibKansan]

20. LOL

That is brilliant :)

[welshTerrier2]

18. only 2% of blacks approve of bush

what else do you need to know ???

source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2005/10/13/BL2005101300885.html

In what may turn out to be one of the biggest free-falls in the history of presidential polling, President Bush's job-approval rating among African Americans has dropped to 2 percent, according to a new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll. <skip>

But Bush's bungled response to Hurricane Katrina -- seen by many blacks as evidence that he didn't care about them (see my September 13 column ) -- may have brought support for the president in the African American community down to nearly negligible levels.

Tim Russert called attention to this startling statistic on the NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams yesterday: "Brian, listen to this," he said. "Only 2 percent -- 2 percent! -- of African-Americans approve of George Bush's handling of the presidency -- the lowest we have ever seen in that particular measure."

[proud2BlibKansan]

19. I started the discussion with this point - about this poll

and the RWer responded with 'bush put more minorities in high office than any other prez'.

[rfranklin]

21. Yes, he has to because Republicans won't ELECT black people...

It's a perfect public relations solution. Appoint them to positions where they have no real power because they only follow orders. And if they get out of line, fire 'em!

[proud2BlibKansan]

24. Like Armstrong Williams

:eyes:

[welshTerrier2]

22. symbolism versus substance

placing blacks in high office to give them power and the opportunity to serve as role models should be acknowledged as a positive contribution ... those on the left can accept that point without losing the greater argument ...

HOWEVER, the true test of a president's commitment to civil rights and equality of the races must, more importantly, extend well beyond mere symbolism ... and the measure of bush's commitment to black America is made by speaking directly to black Americans ...

and here, a 2% rating is the lowest in American history ... tokenism and symbolism is all well and good but, in the end, it's substance that really counts ... and this president can't seem to count past 2 ...

[proud2BlibKansan]

35. great response! n/t

[gumby]

23. Right-wing doublespeak of the highest order.

For years, the right has ridiculed 'liberals' for "counting." They told us, only "liberals" notice the color of one's skin. So, I might reply:

+ I thought it was only "liberals" that noticed skin color.
+ I thought "conservatives" were only interested in performance. You know, the best person for the job?
+ I thought only "liberals" counted the numbers of minorities to prove their politically correct "numerical ideology."
* I thought only "liberals" touted "quotas."

It's just amazing how "conservatives" can argue completely opposite positions that both point to their total immersion in institutional racism.

[ck4829]

25. Upper class RW members of minorities

Hey, I'm white and I probably know more about the struggles of the minorities than the Bush Administration does.

[yurbud]

27. who have their policies and actions helped? It is admirable that he

does it, but far outweighed by the policies they implement.

There's nothing wrong with giving him his props where due, but minorities in the Bush White House have more in common with the Jewish kapos in concentrations--they just keep the nazis from dirtying their hands.

[leesa]

28. So what? They are just stooges...he doesn't hire minorities for regular

jobs.

[Arkana]

29. Who gives a shit?

People should be judged by their actions, not the color of their frickin' skin, and George Bush's "minorities" are responsible for much of the damage his administration has caused. I wouldn't care if Condi Rice was pink with purple fucking polka dots--I'd still think she was a liar and a cheat.

[bobbieinok]

30. has W appointed any Jews?? Jews Clinton appointed were listed on a

probably antisemitic site

[goodboy]

31. Condi is only black on the outside. Gonzalez is only brown on the outside

Cho is only yellow on the outside.

These people have, through their actions and associations sold their own people down the river.

They are traitors to their races, otherwise they wouldn`t be REPUKES in the first place.

The ``minorities`` Bush* appointed are the equivalent of a Jewish Nazi.

[Cocoa]

32. tell him to tell it to the 98% of blacks that disapprove of Bush

maybe they don't know your friend's fascinating fact.

[noahmijo]

33. Upper class silverspoon 'minorities' hardly constitute the minorities

that those of us living in the real world are talking about.

[grannylib]

36. So minorities have achieved parity in whoredom and corruption?? Not

something to brag about.
That's what I'd say.