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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 06:01 AM
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Miller should be fired!
~snip~

Let’s put aside for the moment Miller exhibiting the same selective memory favored by her former friends and sources in the White House, in claiming that for the life of her she cannot recall how the name of “Valerie Flame” got into the reporter’s notebook she took to her interview with Libby; how she learned about the CIA operative from other sources (whom she can’t name or even recall when it happened).

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Like Keller says, make of it what you will. My view: Miller did far more damage to her newspaper than did Jayson Blair, and that’s not even counting her WMD reporting, which hurt and embarrassed the paper in others ways.

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But equally damning, from her own first-person account: Revealing her working methods, perhaps too clearly, Miller writes that at her second meeting with Libby on this matter, on July 8, 2003, he asked her to modify their prior understanding that she would attribute information from him to an unnamed "senior administration official." Now, in talking about Joseph Wilson (and his wife), he requested that he be identified only as a "former Hill staffer." This was obviously to deflect attention from the Cheney office's effort to hurt Wilson.

Surely Judy wouldn’t go along with this? Alas, Miller admits, "I agreed to the new ground rules because I knew that Mr. Libby had once worked on Capitol Hill."

much more: http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/columns/pressingissues_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001306699

The NYT piece: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/16/national/16leak.html?ei=5094&en=ae9961705f60a5d9&hp=&ex=1129435200&adxnnl=1&partner=homepage&adxnnlx=1129457897-bCm7cMryn8DShhrPoURuMA

Great background piece: Now They Tell Us

http://www.williambowles.info/media/massing_media.html

MILLER, LIBBY, ROVE, CHENEY, AND BUSH SHOULD ALL BE INDICTED!
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 06:15 AM
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1. I think she is
this leave of absence B.S. is just so the times can save face

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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 06:20 AM
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2. More good stuff at Arianna
"As I told Mr. Fitzgerald, I simply could not recall where that came from," Miller writes.

This is as believable as Woodward and Bernstein not recalling who Deep Throat was. It also means that Judy went to jail to protect a source she can't recall.

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One thing we do know about Judy Miller is that she's no dummy. Whether or not Libby said the words "Valerie Plame," and whether or not Libby knew or revealed that Plame was covert, it's inconceivable that Miller did not know what was going on: a high-level administration official was trying to smear a critic of the administration. That's news. That's something the readers of the New York Times --and the American people -- deserved to know, and yet she did nothing with the information. Indeed, she still calls Libby a "good-faith source who was usually straight with me." Was it an example of Scooter being straight with Judy (and the public) that he asked to be described not as “a senior administration official” (as was their "prior understanding") but as a "former Hill staffer"? "I agreed to the new ground rules because I knew that Mr. Libby had once worked on Capitol Hill." Mr. Libby had also once been to high school. So how about "former high school student" to really disguise the identity of the White House henchman from her readers?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/timesselective-judyculp_b_8938.html
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 08:01 AM
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3. This Editor and Publisher article is excellent.
Edited on Sun Oct-16-05 08:02 AM by enough
Well worth reading the whole thing. Very clear and devastating.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 08:08 AM
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4. Inside the Beltway reporting ethics
Crimony. I am not defending the outing of Plame, but it is pretty much "inside baseball" knowledge that reporters do not srew their sources because they need their sources in a competivive 24 hour new cycle. The fact that at the time Miller decided to say it was a hill staffer was purely to play pattycake with someone who was feeding her information to meet deadlines.

This is how the game is played people.

Complaining about this is Monday Morning quarterbacking.

She may not even have relaized at the time that Plame was an agent and that what was being shared was illegal.
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 08:25 AM
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5. She still has a job in journalism...
and I don't?!?

:evilfrown: :mad: :spank: :grr: :thumbsdown: :shrug: :cry: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :hide: :yoiks:

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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 08:45 AM
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6. The Times is dropping her like a hot potato.
Edited on Sun Oct-16-05 08:47 AM by anitar1
After reading the lengthy "explanation", it became obvious that , like Bushco, the underlings will be blamed. Not the asshats at the top. although they may go, eventually. Noticed in the article, that her former editors bailed out, quite a while back. One is now with the Oregonian, others are woking for papers across the country. They knew early on what was happening. The responsibility lies with the top people,who are Bush lovers, IMHO.The Times is no longer credible. I read a few days ago, that the top columnists are being courted by other newspapers. Edited for spelling
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 09:03 AM
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7. She has done more damage to press 'freedom' than can be imagined.
The neoconservatives are often heard to claim that "with freedom comes responsibility" -- except, of course, when it's 'corporate freedom' and the use of that 'freedom' in perpetrating a Fraud against the People. Miller behaved and is behaving with less responsibility than a columnist -- even Bob Novak. She pretends to be a reporter, not a columnis and not an opinion peddler. She's a liar and a fraud.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 09:16 AM
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8. I agree.
The baloney about "I can't remember what my notes mean" bugs me. I'm retired, but if I went back and reviewed my notes, in almost every case I would be able to identify the "who, what, when, where, and why" issues. When you take into account that this was something of great significance to her -- WMD & Iraq, for goodness sake -- it is too obvious that she is lying.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 09:27 AM
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9. Exactly. As a former internal auditor, I cold look at notes many years ..
Edited on Sun Oct-16-05 09:31 AM by TahitiNut
... old and recall who, what, where, when, and why with a great deal of accuracy. After all, that's why we take notes! How many diarists believe her for even a nanosecond? If I were the prosecutor, I'd want a jury with people who've kept diaries for years. I'd be willing to bet a dollar against a moldy old horse turd that she's disclosed 'sources' to her cronies in the adminstration more than just a few time. I'd be willing to bet that anyone who proffered information, under condition of confidentiality, critical of this regime, was outed by Miller to this regime's enforcers quicker than any story ever got to print.

She's a player, not a reporter. She's as corrupt as they get -- far, far worse than Novakula. I want to see her indicted for perjury, obstruction, and conspiracy.
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 10:22 AM
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10. Totally agree...
She can't remember? What utter bull!
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