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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:07 AM Original message |
Just why did they go after Joe Wilson and his wife ? |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:10 AM Response to Original message |
1. Wilson exposed the big lie |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:11 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. How exactly does showing his wife to be undercover CIA discredit him? |
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Aimah (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:13 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Exposing |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:37 AM Response to Reply #7 |
28. These are emotionally backward cretins - it was revenge n/t |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:15 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. They said he was anti administration.... |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:28 AM Response to Reply #3 |
21. It was standard criminal "protection" racket behavior |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:31 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. I just don't think it's that simple. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:36 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Of course it isn't: there are many layers of complexity |
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neuvocat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:11 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Asassinating their character is standard Rove procedure. |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:13 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Revealing her as undercover CIA doesn't assasinate her character |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:27 AM Response to Reply #6 |
20. She ran a network which monitored the movement of weapons material |
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itzamirakul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 05:52 AM Response to Reply #20 |
36. I have been pondering this same question also.... |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:39 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. Don't think ol Prescott Bush sold weapons. He was a banker. |
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neuvocat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 02:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
49. You are obviously correct. |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 10:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
44. Wilson himself says it's to scare others who might come forward |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
2. My opinion: |
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DesertRat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
5. Revenge |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
8. It's not Wilson, it's Plame, or should be. And B&J, and the CIA. nt |
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texpatriot2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
10. They had something to hide, something big. What are they |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
11. Blew apart Val's network and what she was uncovering. |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:18 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. So Cheney & Bush had to blow the cover of Plame's whole network |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:20 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. What is your theory, Lex? |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:28 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Pretty much what TahiniNut says in Post #17. |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:31 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Yes, many birds with one stone |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:22 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. No, what Brewster Jennings & Val were uncovering about WMDs elsewhere |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:23 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. And this administration is hostile to the CIA |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:35 AM Response to Reply #18 |
26. One wonders what Poppy thinks of this........ |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 07:36 AM Response to Reply #26 |
39. The senior Bush |
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Historic NY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:19 AM Response to Original message |
13. What he didn't find in Africa contradicted what they were saying.... |
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proud patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
15. To protect PNAC |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
17. It destroyed Brewster Jennings & Associates covert operations. |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 09:57 AM Response to Reply #17 |
41. What you (and havocmom #20 above) say |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 10:21 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. I believe a DisIntel operation has been globally active for over 15 years |
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Metta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:27 AM Response to Original message |
19. Soil the messenger. Distract and hope it sticks. |
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Check12 (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
23. I don't buy the prevailing theories |
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Karmakaze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:40 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Miller testified that Libby exposed Plame BEFORE Wilson's article |
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Baconfoot (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:57 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. In all fairness, they might have anticipated the article. Nonetheless... |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
27. Maybe because he was a Democrat ? |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
30. Excellent article ties the outing to ARAMCO (energy) |
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Lexingtonian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
31. Because they were flying high and felt Above It All |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:37 AM Response to Original message |
33. Good thread. |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 05:34 AM Response to Original message |
35. They went after Joe Wilson because they go after anyone ... |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 07:20 AM Response to Original message |
37. All bad smells lead back to the Fascists |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 07:28 AM Response to Original message |
38. ARAMCO... |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 09:27 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. See my post #30 for much more on ARAMCO. n/t |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
40. Cause Karl & Company will 'fuck you over' if you fuck with them. |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
42. The WMD LIE. They knew they were lying and Valerie Plame |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
47. no, I really believe |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 12:43 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Also, I think the spin |
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