Clinton, Gore, and Carter were all here in Nashville today!!!!

[johnaries]

I just heard on the local news that Bill Clinton and Al Gore both attended a surprise birthday brunch for former TN Gov. Ned McWherter (with a clip of Clinton and Gore leaving Mario's Restaurant together), and Jimmy Carter is at the Grand Ole Opry's Birthday bash tonight.

God, I wish I had known!

[beam me up scottie]

1. Me too.

I'm a half hour away.
:evilfrown:

[Carla in Ca]

2. I know how you feel

Kerry was in Los Angeles last Thursday. I would have gone had I been keeping up with his schedule.
I did see Bill Clinton when he campaigned in OC for Sanchez in 1996. He is a wonderful 'from the heart' speaker and absolutely memorizing in person...WOW!

[drummo]

3. Thank that "wonderful 'from the heart' speaker" for the Bush presidency.

There's no way that Bush would have ended up in the White House
had it not been for Clinton's sexual advantures in the Oval Office.

BTW why do you want to hear someone speak from his heart?
The heart cannot think. And we need more reason in public policy not more shallow emotions which makes you feel good for a few minutes.

[Carla in Ca]

4. Well, I think you are being a little rough

but I respect your right for those opinions.

Saying 'there's no way * would have ended up in the WH'... is a stretch(sorry I cannot bring myself to spell his name as nicely as you). Yes, Clinton did a stupid thing but if not that then it would have been for something else. It is called a witch hunt, my friend.

As for the comment that 'the heart cannot think', maybe it can, maybe it can't. But the heart can feel and from those feelings come the passion that can sustain us for a lifetime. I think my wonderful husband of 24 years will agree with me.

I hope I have addressed your talking points well and please, feel free to use the ignore button for my posts in the future. I tend to gush about President Clinton. A lot.

[drummo]

11. What else? There was nothing against Gore whatsoever other

than the 'liar liar pants on fire' echo-chamber.

Rove himself didn't find anything, except the 1996 fundraising which was not a big political hit for the Reps because most people knew that Gore did nothing illegal (unlike CLinton) and what he did was not worse than what other pols did.

So what would the Reps have had against Gore?

Poor economy? War? Inexperience? Stupidity? Immorality?

They had only one thing: liar.

The press pushed it but it wouldn't have happened without the Clinton's lies. The reason why the character assassination happened and why it was so effective was that Gore was the veep of an impeached liar.

Again: imagine that there's no Monica, no lies, no impeachment.
The whole "what to do with Clinton" problem wouldn't have existed.
Bush couldn't have run on "honor and dignity"
There wouldn't have been Lieberman.
There woudln't have been the "Gore is a liar" theme dominating the entire campaign.

Gore would have won easily under those circumstances.

[drummo]

17. Have a heart transplant surgery. Your thinking will not change

You IQ will not change. Your memory will not change.
Your personality will not change.

And no, the heart cannot feel anything, either.
Emotions are produced by the brain just like ideas.
The heart is just a pump. Nothing more. You can get it out and put in another pump and you will be the same person. Try that with your brain...well...we are not yet there, but you can imagine.


passion that can sustain us for a lifetime.

I guess you don't want to say that, for example, spiders are sustained for a lifetime by passion?

It is animal instinct which sustains humans not some kind of emotional crap.

I tend to gush about President Clinton. A lot.

That's the problem with a lot of Democrats. This Clinton mania
made them totally blind. Therefore they don't see the obvious that Bush wouldn't have had any chance to become president had Clinton managed to control his damn inferior emotions.
You know down there in the South most people do not like liar adulterers.

[bobbieinok]

10. W 'won' 5-4 b/c of corruption in FL2000.....Gore won the popular vote

[drummo]

12. That's true but Gore's margin would have been much bigger

without having that elephant called Bill Clinton in the living room.

[undeterred]

13. The CLENIS argument!

God, how I've missed that. :sarcasm:

[Adelante]

16. How I know what you mean

I especially love when this horseshit comes from Dems. :puke:

[drummo]

19. Horshit? The Dems should wake up and see that they are not

alone in the US. Just because they didn't care about Clinton's BJ and lies doesn't mean that most voters didn't care, either.

If they didn't how can you explain that in Aug 2000 Bush would have defeated Clinton by 6 points, according to a Gallup poll?
In fact Bush defeated Clinton in every poll in 2000, except one in 2000 Oct by ABC and even that was within the margin of error (44-41).
Gore at least led Bush in Sept by as much as 10 points. Clinton was never able to "run" against Bush so strongly even though everyone in the country knew him by 2000.

How can you explain that Gore had higher favorable rating in Aug 2000 than Clinton?

How can you explain that Clinton had a below 40% favorable rating in 2000 in his homestate (!) -- just like in every other red state?
Even Gore ran better in Tennessee which is far more fundamentalist than Arkansas.

[drummo]

18. It's a true. No Monica no Bush. Refute it if you can.

But use real data, because I can't stand theories without legs.

[Tsiyu]

27. How about no Kenneth Starr, no Bush?

Why not blame the freaks who ran that show? Most of America didn't give a shit, Clinton still had decent poll numbers, and Gore won the popular vote. Just not the Supreme Court battle.

So blame the Supremes. Blame Jeb Bush. Blame a boatload of characters. I think it is shortsighted and naive to say only one component of the 2000 circus is to blame.

But that's just me.

[MelissaB]

5. Will they still be there tomorrow? I'll be there then.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

6. Where's *bush Sr.?

I thought he and Clinton had been surgically attached at the hip. Did the procedure finally fail?

[MelissaB]

7. Article here:

Clinton makes Nashville stop for McWherter's birthday bash

Former president joins Al Gore in poking fun at his longtime friend, 75

By LARRY DAUGHTREY
For The Tennessean


Former President Bill Clinton dropped into Nashville yesterday to help turn a 75th birthday party for former Gov. Ned McWherter into an affectionate mini-roast.

...snip

The group met for lunch at Mario's near Vanderbilt University for what was initially planned as a surprise party until McWherter discovered the plotting.

"Nothing Bill Clinton does ever surprises me," McWherter said.

In a room full of Democratic activists, there was only a thin veneer over the politics of the day.

Hillary Clinton, considered a likely candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2008, told McWherter she wants "to pick your brain and see what we're going to do about this country of ours." McWherter responded that he wants to "be part of that team."

Bill Clinton used the proponents of "intelligent design," the idea that natural forces alone could not create anything as complex as life, as the target of a couple of jabs as he made points about McWherter, a friend for more than 20 years.

"Those guys hate old Darwin. They go after him about every 40 years. But, Ned, when I look at you, you are the best evidence that God starts all over every time."

More: http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051016/NEWS01/510160395/1006/NEWS

[TrueAmerican]

14. Settting the stage for a Gore/Clinton ticket

President Al Gore and VP Hillary Clinton.

I not really a fan of Hillary, but I'll settle.

[goforit]

21. OH God ...How I wish Gore would step forward....(like now)

[drummo]

28. No way. Hillary voted for the war. And Gore knows why.

It was not because Hillary had particular concerns for our national security rather she had concerns about her political future. :puke:

That combination is inexusable in Gore's world.

[brettdale]

8. Go Jimmy

I wish I was there to see Jimmy Carter in Person and to see Garth Brooks perform.

[FreedomAngel82]

26. Garth Brooks was there?

Cool. Is he coming back to the music industry?

[SillyGoose]

9. A trifecta of the 'bestest' kind!

Its too bad you didn't know about it in advance.

[tnlefty]

15. Ah ha, that's why it was clear, sunny and warm today!!! Ever

notice that when bush** or evil Dick are in the state there is always a cold wind that blows and that it often is accompanied by a cold rain?

[goforit]

20. The three musketeers rise again!!!

[ShrewdLiberal]

22. Al "Cornwallis" Gore will never get my vote if he runs again.

If the election is close and he has more votes, experience tells me he'll surrender like the coward he is. John Kerry is no different. They both surrendered to the enemy when they had it in the bag. They let the criminals steal two elections which were rightfully ours. COWARDS! the both of them.

[goforit]

23. Hmmm.....a newcomer, eh?

[ShrewdLiberal]

24. Uh-huh. I'm pretty new at D.U.

I voted for Gore and Kerry. Never did vote for Clinton, though. But to blame Clinton for Gore's piss-poor campaign is rediculous. The American people knew about Clinton's womanizing before he won the Democratic primaries against the first Bush.

Gore lost because of his own ineptness, not because of Clinton's lack of control over his penis. Gore is a bad candidate. He won it and gave it away on a silver platter to a criminal cabal of neo-fascists out to control the world. He played Mr. Nice guy and got mugged of his presidency.

I'm not bashing Gore because I'm a freeper in guise. I'm a Registered Independent who votes Democratic across the board in every election. Gore deserves it. He surrendered to the enemy without a fight. He let them get away with the biggest theft if the history of the world. Kerry did the same thing in Ohio.

We need a damn fighter the next time. Someone with balls. If it takes a woman to grow a pair and kick some ass, then, hell, I'll vote for her. If a guy gets the nod, he better kick ass from day one and never stop. Or he'll get dumped on as well.

[johnaries]

31. WTF are you talking about? Gore fought it all the way to SCOTUS.

How can you POSSIBLY say he surrendered?

[FreedomAngel82]

25. Oh how awesome!

[Canadian Socialist]

29. Bill Clinton was here yesterday

and accepted a cheque from the Alberta government (people) for $5 million for Katrina relief as well as one for $5 million for the earthquake victims in Pakistan/India. I heard the presentation on the radio, and he was very choked up about it. Although, I personally think that $5 million is a little cheap, considering the amount of money this province is rolling in ($9 billion surplus/no debt and it's not even the end of the fiscal year!11!). Anyway, I was very excited to hear the Big Dog speak. And, I'm hoping some of his compassion and statesman ship will rub off on King Ralph.

[drummo]

30. Would someone explain to me why Clinton is called the "Big Dog"?