DU ladies!!! See yourselves through the eyes of a Fundie...if you dare>>

[goodboy]

I say, God has given man one position and woman another position and this difference in their position should be shown by men having short hair and women long hair. "Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head. But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven" (1 Cor. 11:4,5). And verse 6 continues: "For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered."

Man is made in the image of God. God is a masculine God. The masculine pronoun is used of God everywhere in the Bible. That foolish and unscriptural title given by a woman preacher, Mrs. Mary Baker Eddy, "Our Father-Mother God," dishonors God. God is not effeminate. God is not feminine, but masculine. And man is made in the image of God. On the other hand, a woman is not made so much in the image of God, but in the image and as a mate to man. So the Scripture says: "For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man."

Blessed is the woman that remembers this; her glory is in being a help to a man, and in submission to her husband or her father.

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Fundies...the CHRISTIAN TALIBAN

http://www.gotothebible.com/HTML/Sermons/bobbed.html

[bullwinkle428]

1. How do they explain Jesus? (n/t)

[Lubernaut]

5. That was a wig that he wore, silly!

[FreedomAngel82]

11. Don't forget Samson!

He had very long hair and wouldn't dare cut it. If I remember right it was in joint with his strength.

[goodboy]

67. That`s SOOOOO Òld Testament, FA-82...(nt)

[goodboy]

7. "Why did Jesus have long hair like a homo?" (LandoverBaptist.com)

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0205/jesushair.html


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[MrSlayer]

19. There is some really funny shit in there.

Thanks for the link. The "Ask Bob Novak" column is hilarious.

[goodboy]

36. LandoverBaptist.com, and Whitehouse.org kick ass! Check this>>

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http://whitehouse.org/kids/letters.asp

[Eric J in MN]

12. It doesn't say in the Bible that Jesus had long hair (nt)

nt

[jeff30997]

2. Got iz nat a girly man !

:eyes:

[goodboy]

37. Nope. Neither was Republican Jesus (SEE THIS PHOTO EVIDENCE)

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[ultraist]

3. "her glory is in being a help to a man, & in submission to her husband...

:scared:

[WritingIsMyReligion]

27. Let me add a good, solid vomit to that.

:puke:

:scared:

[lizerdbits]

4. Why any woman would want to be a fundie is beyond me

I wouldn't be a person, just my dad's personal property since I'm not married. Ugh.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

28. Totally agree. n/t

[seabeyond]

6. but but but that isnt the way it works. calif girl amongst lots of

fundie men. when a woman doesnt believe this shit, it is totally powerless. further, these men, oh lordy, i laugh, these men that want those big dick oh so bad, they shrivel with women that dont let them have the power. they literally wilt. they are not scary, they are sad, so sad, and tired and (did i say sad)


the only way this can work is if a woman believes it.

[Scout]

9. the only way this can work is if a woman believes it

exactly. Never let your daughters start believing this shit. (Or your sons either for that matter.)

It was a somewhat exagerated technique, but I always tried to approach something with the attitude "Well, if (just) a BOY can do it, I certainly can do it as well as or even better." Many times I was right, and learned and did what I wanted to regardless of being "just" a girl.

ETA: I left the Christian church my parents (mostly mom) made me go to as a kid. I hated confirmation class, and memorized the stuff they gave us and spit it back just to be able to get out of the class. I didn't really believe it. Now I'm a kind of a "Samhain/Solstice Pagan."

[funflower]

70. But males who believe it can be pretty damned obnoxious!

Remember the Taliban nut in Fahrenheit 911? :spank:

[funflower]

8. Here's his photo of that evil, feminist hair!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[goodboy]

10. Here's what JESUS wants you girls to look like, from ages 4+ or ELSE!!!

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[Nikki Stone 1]

13. Why does God like ugly people?

Just wondered...

[WritingIsMyReligion]

23. That is SO despicably disgusting...

Where the hell does that COME from?

[funflower]

71. I think it's the photo of the 37-yo woman who just gave birth to her 16th

child. I think I read that she had her first at 21 (after being married for FOUR years), so she's averaged one baby per year for 16 years. Naturally, her husband is a republican politician!

[xxqqqzme]

46. how many will be drug dependent?

which one tortures small animals?

[patdem]

49. I thought cloning was illegal? n/t

[melnjones]

14. In Hebrew the word used to talk about the Holy Spirit...

was FEMININE! Ha ha ha, take that, fundies. Some commentaries and Bible scholars are now correctly referring to the Holy Spirit as "she." So if we are to look at the Trinity as 3-in-1, we suddenly see a feminine reference in the original Biblical text to the God many are trying to say is purely masculine. This is why it is so dang important to study the Bible in its original languages, in light of the original contexts. Wish more fundies would figure that out.

[Scout]

16. Trinity as 3-in-1

The Maiden, The Mother, and The Crone
The Three Aspects of the Goddess.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

17. I'm no pagan,

but cheers to you for bringing that up. I love studying that sort of thing.

:toast:

[melnjones]

20. Hey, no changing the subject!

:P

No, that's cool. I do think it's important to remember though that if you don't agree with the fundies on something, you have to counter it with something they recognize as authoritative, like the Bible itself. That's why I posted what I did...a lot of Christians want to run from the Truth that the Bible itself puts forth. It's crazy. I'm working on my Masters right now, studying to be a minister, and it's incredible the crap that comes out of fundy mouths.

[kestrel91316]

32. Yep, the Christians stole the trinity from the pagans, just like

they stole Yule (turned it into Christmas) and Eostara (turned it into Easter). Sacrilege! Not to mention UNORIGINAL.

[teknomanzer]

63. Christianity is a pagan religion...

Christians are just in denial... as are neo-pagans I suppose.

Here is a fun link... Done by a self professed amature but very well researched.

http://home.earthlink.net/%7Epgwhacker/ChristianOrigins/

Great stuff.

[kestrel91316]

69. SHHHHHH, don't tell the fundies!

[FreedomAngel82]

21. Yes

And wisdom is menitoned as "she" as well in the book of Proverbs. And submitting isn't about being a slave or anything like that. We're all seen as equals in the eyes of Christ. Jesus changed that when he came.
With marriage you're to work together and both have says. The husband is the head of the household but you're supposed to both have says etc.
It's not like a slave/master thing but more-so about respect etc. In Jesus' times women were mostly for taking care of the home and children etc. and the men provided for the family with the labor.

[Clark2008]

50. The Holy Feminine...

eom

[FloridaPat]

15. How is God masculine? To be masculine one must have a male body.

God has no body.

[FreedomAngel82]

22. That's what is confusing to me as well

In the old testament Moses asks who God is and God replies "I am." So God doesn't say anything about a sex. But Jesus always called God "father". :shrug:

[WritingIsMyReligion]

24. Exactly. "He" is asexual. "He" is actually a "HeShe". n/t

[kestrel91316]

33. God the Father = "it", Jesus the Son = "he", Holy Spirit = "she"..........

works for me!!!! Nice and inclusive.

[leeroysphitz]

54. Sounds HOT! nt

[ErisFiveFingers]

39. Uhm... that varies by faith.

There are some forms of christianity that posit that god has a human, or human-like, male body. All the bits attached, ifyaknowwhatimean. Some believe that christ and god share the same body, some believe that christ has a body, but god does not. Others believe that both god, and christ, have bodies. Yet others believe that there is no "body" to either christ or god, because the body is a vehicle of sin... Getting into the feminine aspect, some believe god is a single male entity, others believe god is an asexual entity, others believe that god is married to a goddess....

Isn't religious schism fun? And if we step outside christianity, it gets even more complex.

[FreedomAngel82]

57. Well from my studying with Christianity is

Jesus is the son of God and God is just a spirit. Some believe that Jesus is God in the human form but why would Jesus call himself "father" when talking about God? I do believe that Jesus is the Lord and Savior and the son of God. The Holy Spirit joints them together spiritual wise and I also think is a way for God to communicate with us. God doesn't communicate like in the old testament like with Noah but now through Scriptures and answering prayers and I also think your "Intuition".

[funflower]

72. Historically, the Judeo-Christian God has been described as male.

[lizerdbits]

18. Just remembered-doesn't it say somewhere women shouldn't 'dress like men'

by wearing pants? I guess I need to put on some different pjs so I don't go to hell. :eyes: Oh, and cover my head too.

[FreedomAngel82]

25. No, that's not it

It's supposed to be where you can tell what sex you are and not be confusing to people.

[lizerdbits]

31. Thanks, I wasn't sure. n/t

[I Have A Dream]

34. That was one of the big problems that Joan of Arc had...

she dressed like a man. Much of her trouble with the Church was because of that. (That was one of her biggest offenses.)

[WritingIsMyReligion]

26. Yeah, it probably does...

Let me go get out that scarf from the back of my closet... I know I have one somewhere... And I better go put these pants away...

:sarcasm::sarcasm::eyes::eyes:

[Hardrada]

44. Don't wear any pj's

and you will go to Heaven.

[FreedomAngel82]

58. The whole thing is

you're just supposed to be able to tell if you're a woman or a man. It doesn't have anything to do with what you wear like pjs or whatever. Sometimes when guys have long hair you can't tell if they are men or women (see Hanson when they were younger heh heh).

[DemoTex]

29. Do Fundies Fuck?

Inquiring minds want to know.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

30. It's called anal rape. n/t

[johnaries]

35. Not standing up......, it's too close to dancing.

:evilgrin:

[goodboy]

38. BWAAAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA HAHAHAHA (breathe) HAHAHA

HA!

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[omega minimo]

53. Purty fukkin funny

:hi:

[knitter4democracy]

62. Even older joke:

Why don't they believe in premarital sex? It leads to dancing. :)

We all told those around the dinner table at our evangelical college.

[Lethe]

40. thats right! you women need to stay in the kitchen where you belong!

:hide:



just kidding

[davsand]

61. So kitchen sex is good?

Do they say anything about sex anyplace else--like the backyard or in the garage?

Just asking so I can try and be closer to the ideal... :shrug:


Laura

[neebob]

41. What?

I got all hung up trying to unravel the passage about dishonouring the head.

[Warren DeMontague]

42. So bald men are closer to god?

And women are made in the image of man, who is made in the image of god. So, women are, like a 2nd generation copy, like a xerox of a xerox? Or you know, like the old-school analog audio copies-- God not being hip to the digital revolution- when your friend had a great tape of that Harpur College 1970 show and you ran it through your crappy tape-to-tape boombox with the crusted over peach schnapps on the recording heads and it came out a little funny.. with that hiss and whine? My wife is standing next to me with a rolling pin, warning me not to draw any connections between women as a 2nd generation copy and "hiss and whine".. Get thee hence to the kitchen, woman! Didn't you hear? Jesus wants you to submit!

Ah, and I won't even get into my long, lustrous, effeminate, ungodly male hair. Oh, the humanity.

[Clark2008]

51. Personally, I think women are just evolved men

And we know that "evolving" is just improving.

:evilgrin:

[Jamastiene]

43. I'm so glad I had the freedom to decide not to be a

Christian (especially of the fundamentalist type like I was forced to endure as a child) when I grew up. I have heard drivel like that my whole life. Blah, blah, blah. If that's an example of what heaven is going to be like, my response is the same as usual; I don't wanna go there. I'd rather be with the good Christians and nonChristians who have a better mentality than that.

[Hardrada]

45. I think being in Hades

with the interesting and fun people would be preferable if less comfortable. (Depends on which ring in the Inferno you get assigned to). WCWIHTS

[OneAngryDemocrat]

47. ShockedandAwful.com

http://shockedandawful.com/Blog.html

[Lindsay]

48. Back in the 60s, I was listening to a radio talk show

and someone called in and said, "If God had wanted men to have long hair, He would have made it that way."

I have never recovered. ;)

[FreedomAngel82]

59. LOL Aren't they forgetting Samson?

Remember him? :eyes: We know he had long hair and quite a bit of an obsession with it.

[Pharlo]

52. 'Inherit the Wind'

by Jerome Lawerence and Robert E. Lee.

A play based upon the Scopes' trial:

"God made man in his image. And man, being a gentleman returned the compliment."

Anyone who hasn't read the play or seen the movie should. It's very relevant in today's religious/political environment.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

64. OMFG YES!

I just read that play in my American Lit. class. It is SO fucking awesome. :D :D

[teknomanzer]

55. The Root of Religious Misogyny

A couple of things come to mind while reading this. First fundamentalist interpretations of scripture are lunatic. One cannot apply the social norms of an ancient civilization to the post modern world.

It does seem that there is little difference between Islamic fundies and Christian fundies... They would soon have all women covered in head to toe and treat them as little more than chattel. And why?Because a few weak bastards are unable to deal with their own sexuality. "I saw her ankle and I got a boner, now SHE must die!" Just one example of not taking any responsibility for ones own mind.

I feel I should also mention that there is at the very root of patriarchal religion a jealousy of female biological superiority.

There I said it. I am a male and I get it. These fundie men are jealous of a woman's ability to bear children. A woman's biological importance is not some piece feminist of propaganda, it is scientific fact. A group with 10 females and one male has a greater chance of survival over a group of 10 males and one female. If you understand that then you will grasp the significance of female biological importance. This fact underlies all the attempts of male dominated institutions to suppress and malign women. Those men who can't handle a truth that nags their unconscious go on to invent male gods who then usurp the creative power of the female goddess so they can justify putting the female in a lower position. God fashioning Eve from Adam's rib is an example of such patriarchal religious propaganda.

The sooner we rip the veil off of misogynist patriarchal religion the better off we will all be. Men just need to get over it.

I hope one day I can write a whole dissertation on this subject as I find it fascinating.

[chat_noir]

56. A Boy and His Dog (1975)

Anybody here remember the scenes where Vic (Don Johnson) is captured by the Topeka underground (literally) fundy-like totalitarian group? Vic's use to them is a mechanically-extracted sperm donor. :rofl:

[ninkasi]

68. Oh, yeah....

That was hilarious, wasn't it? All of the brides lined up for the "wedding".

[FreedomAngel82]

60. You made a good point

The thing to remember is that societies change as well. The Bible was written years ago. There are some things that aren't applied to today that were back than because of how their society was. A lot of it is just common sense and understanding the culture of that time.

[Generic Other]

65. I hope these come in double large

Have you ever seen the size some fundies run?

[goodboy]

66. OH YEAH! (nt)